BERN NOTICE: Biden's Response To Bernie's Green New Deal

[brooklynite]

https://bernie.substack.com

Today, Bernie Sanders rolled out what experts and media are calling the most comprehensive, far-reaching and progressive climate plan of any candidate in the race. In response, Joe Biden’s campaign supported the successful effort to block a climate-focused Democratic presidential debate.

Bernie’s plan — which you can read here — was widely praised, and was covered in The New York Times, Buzzfeed, Politico, The Hill, USA Today and CNN. Acclaimed climate author and activist Naomi Klein wrote that Bernie’s plan “has massively moved the goal posts. This is what it means to treat the climate crisis like a true emergency and build an economy that cares for people and Earth at the same time. “

At the very moment Bernie’s plan was gaining big praise, Biden’s top campaign aide “urged the DNC on Thursday to vote down a climate debate, saying it would be ‘dangerous territory in the middle of a Democratic primary process,” according to The Huffington Post. The proposal for a climate-focused presidential debate was then blocked.

The Biden' campaign’s move follows Reuters previously reporting that Biden is focused on “carving out a middle ground approach” on climate change, despite scientists dire warnings that we need an aggressive Green New Deal. One of Biden’s climate policy advisers “occupied a lucrative seat on the board of the Texas-based liquified natural gas company Cheniere Energy,” reported Sludge, a campaign finance-focused investigative journalism outlet.

Bern after reading,

Sirota

[George II]

1. David Sirota at work again. Does he ever say anything positive about anything?

[Autumn]

8. What's negative in the article? A "middle ground approach" on climate change

isn't going to cut it.

[George II]

12. Where did I use the word "negative"? Read my post again please.

[Autumn]

16. Sirota wrote it, you asked "does he ever say anything positive? " If it's not positive

it's negative.

1. David Sirota at work again. Does he ever say anything positive about anything?

So I asked. What's negative in the article that you commented on? I don't need to read your post again. Once was enough.

[Thekaspervote]

21. Just MO ... me and a bazillion others think Sirota is trouble

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/03/sanders-promised-civility-hired-twitter-attack-dog/585259/

[George II]

28. Bazinga!

[George II]

23. If it's not positive it could be neutral, too. Read my post again, or please don't put words....

...into my "mouth", i.e., keyboard. If you don't want to, that's fine, but then don't comment on something I didn't say.

Thank you.

[TexasTowelie]

26. Binary thinking. nt

[Autumn]

35. George, you know what you said, so do I.

AFAYAC it was a negative piece about Biden. Sirota pointed out Biden is focused on “carving out a middle ground approach” on climate change, despite scientists dire warnings that we need an aggressive Green New Deal. One of Biden’s climate policy advisers “occupied a lucrative seat on the board of the Texas-based liquified natural gas company Cheniere Energy,”

1. David Sirota at work again. Does he ever say anything positive about anything?

[George II]

39. Glad you know more about what I said that I do, Autumn

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. Fair question... was wondering the same thing.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[wasupaloopa]

32. God I hate the word revolution in the context used

by Bernie people.

Think of the great revolutions. Bernie isn’t in that league. Everything about him and is campaign is fairytales.

Can’t wait till he is gone.

[betsuni]

34. "If it's not positive it's negative."

Objective. Nonpartisan. Factual. Unbiased. Impartial. Neutral. Equal. Evenhanded. Unprejudiced. Fair. Empirical. Accurate. Open-minded. Dispassionate. Who cares.

[lapucelle]

18. There was a scheduled DNC RBC meeting Thursday

and Symone Sanders is a member. She wasn’t representing any candidate that night.
She was there as a member of the committee.

They voted on a proposal to hold a single topic debate on climate change instead of the televided candidate forums that are already planned. The debate measure was defeated 17-3.

Why on earth is Sirota claiming that a meeting scheduled months ago is somehow part of a plan to step on the alleged momentum of the big BS announcement?

Why trust anyone who sends out a talking points memo that relies on the assumption that it’s readers are mis- or ill-informed enough to simply accept and repeat such a distortion?

[George II]

24. David Sirota has a history. People here should google "Sirota Philadelphia". For those.....

...who don't care to do so, here it is:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/03/bernie-sanderss-new-speechwriter-has-controversial-past/585547/

From a Bogus Website to Bernie Sanders's Inner Circle

Subheadline: David Sirota got fired from a Philly campaign 20 years ago for a racially charged “dirty trick” before he first went to work for the progressive from Vermont.

Bernie Sanders first hired his new speechwriter, David Sirota, 20 years ago, shortly after Sirota was fired from a mayoral campaign for his connection to a bogus website that promoted a racially charged quotation, taken out of context, of a black opponent.

In 1999, in Philadelphia, there was a crowded Democratic primary for mayor. Three of the candidates were African American: John White, Dwight Evans, and John Street, all of them friends going back years. But the race got intense early, and David Sirota, then working as the deputy campaign manager for Evans, was part of an effort to cut down White’s support: creating a bogus website, purporting to be the official home page of the White campaign, and using it to promote a racially charged quotation, deliberately taken out of context.

The ruse was soon discovered. Evans, who is now a Democratic member of Congress, fired Sirota. He called Sirota “overzealous” at the time. “I do not want this race to be about race,” Evans said in 1999, calling the site in question an example of “dirty tricks.” The website took a comment that White had made in a broader interview with a Spanish-language weekly, Al Día, and presented the line as if it were an anti-white slogan: “The black and the brown, if we unite, we’re going to control this city.” Local reporters in Philadelphia received emails directing them to the site as though it were part of John White’s campaign.

White, according to news reports at the time, was speaking about the increased political clout African Americans and Latinos could have if they worked together as a coalition. That was February. By the fall, Sirota was hired as the press secretary for Bernie Sanders, then in the House. He was hired by Sanders’s then–chief of staff, Jeff Weaver, who went on to manage Sanders’s 2016 presidential campaign and remains a senior adviser to the 2020 campaign.

MUCH much more....this is a good read

[Demsrule86]

38. Very Good analysis...what I tried to say but did not do it as well as you did...+1000

[Kurt V.]

2. my grandkids...

[walkingman]

3. I disagree - quit running and cowering over Climate Change. Biden needs to speak out

about probably the most important issue of our times.

[peggysue2]

11. He already did

On June 4, link here:

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/04062019/joe-biden-climate-change-plan-presidential-candidates-green-new-deal-clean-energy-obama

Headline for article:

Biden's Climate Plan Embraces Green New Deal, Goes Beyond Obama-Era Ambition

[George II]

13. Aw c'mon, don't ruin the "fun" around here!

[walkingman]

40. OK, I stand corrected. I just want real action.

[Cha]

15. That's Ridiculous for you to accuse the VP

of "cowering".

[walkingman]

41. OK, I stand corrected. I just want real action.

[Cha]

43. We all do.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

30. I'm sure Joe will get to it when he comes back on the campaign trail.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[walkingman]

42. OK, I stand corrected. I just want real action.

[Demsrule86]

37. He already did and if you cared about issues more than bashing Biden, you might know that.

[Autumn]

4. A climate debate would be 'dangerous territory in the middle of a Democratic primary'?

WTF. Why is Biden afraid of a climate change debate? It's not like climate change is going to make the world a better, safer place.

[Thekaspervote]

22. Hi Autumn see post #11 above..thanks!

[SCVDem]

5. Rule one

First get elected!

I have heard many times that we need to be moderate. Hard left or right is limiting.

We agree on Bernie's plan. We just can't campaign on it.

So we talk small but will act big after the election.

[WheelWalker]

27. Exactly. Rule #1... Face the Danger

[left-of-center2012]

6. Seems Biden gets attacked more than Trump

Circular firing squad at it again?

[Dennis Donovan]

7. substack.com?

subsketchy...

[brooklynite]

10. I get them by email, but that's where Sirota chooses to dock them

[gulliver]

9. Looks like Biden ticked up here on DU

[calguy]

14. To win elections you MUST run on the middle ground

Once you're elected you can then move forward on a more aggressive approach if you have also won the Senate to push the agenda thru. Running on extreme proposals is the best way I know to lose elections and kill all your dreams. Winning the election is goal #1.

[Autumn]

19. To win an election a politician must first win over the people. That's usually not done by trying to

not engage in debates on very important issues.

[highplainsdem]

17. Wrong. See this thread for the context and what "dangerous territory" referred to:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287250472


It wasn't the climate debate itself, but the prospect of a very long series of demands for single-issue debates if they changed the rules to agree to even one.

See my thread for the San Jose Mercury article putting this in context, which is something HuffPost failed to do.

[emmaverybo]

20. Let's clear this one up. The 'dangerous territories" was taken out if its context to repurpose for a

Biden smear. Please read: https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287250472

[betsuni]

25. So, a resolution introduced in June and scheduled for a vote on August 22

when the DNC met again, turns into Biden's campaign making the DNC vote it down because Bernie's Green New Deal got "big praise" and, like, the corporate media totally loved it and Biden doesn't heed scientists' dire warnings about climate change, he is beholden to Big Gas because one of his climate policy advisers occupied a lucrative seat on the board of a natural gas company.



Not as paranoid as usual, not so much fun. I'm giving it a C minus.

[emmaverybo]

31. What scientists say "we need an aggressive Green New Deal?" As in "The GND" Bernie and AOC

are pushing? Or just “a GND” of some kind? Propagandist writing.

[wasupaloopa]

33. Every candidate will have to out climate change the others.

Nothing real can come from that.

Each candidate believes in man made climate change.

Congress will decide what we do not the president.

Let’s debate Repubs on the congressional level.

[Demsrule86]

36. Untrue...there are at least three posts on this...surprised you would post this. And I agree with

not having one issue debates...how you going to say no to all the other groups with important issues and constituencies? Bad bad idea to have one topic debates. It would pit activists against each other and cause hard feelings and havoc...which is what Biden's campaign manager said. She is right. And this OP is misleading as written. You should fix it...but since there have been multiple posts...my guess is most have seen it and based on who they support will draw their own conclusions...just another attempted 'hit' on Biden...won't work.