Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumIt's looking like Elizabeth Warren is the 2020 Democratic candidate to beat
If she wins in Iowa and NH she will run away with it.
Business Insider
Former Vice President Joe Biden has been the frontrunner of the Democratic primary race to this point, but he's at risk of losing his spot at the top to Sen. Elizabeth Warren, the progressive firebrand senator.
Warren is the only candidate in the Democratic field whose support and favorability has surged over time while Biden's has decreased, even among groups that disproportionately support him.
Biden's support in Morning Consult's weekly Democratic primary survey has fallen by three percentage points since mid-March while Warren's has doubled in the same timeframe.
In Monmouth University polling alone, Warren's net favorability has increased by six percentage points since May while Biden's has decreased by a full 19 percentage points.
And while many pundits have questioned Warren's "likability" since her first run for office in 2012, she currently has the highest net favorability rating out of the entire Democratic field at +54.
More: https://www.businessinsider.com/elizabeth-warren-becoming-candidate-to-beat-2019-8
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Green Line
(1,123 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zentrum
(9,865 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,428 posts)Even Monmouth has acknowledged the poll is faulty and an outlier.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,226 posts)can win the Electoral College which is state by state.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Green Line
(1,123 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 2, 2019, 08:43 PM - Edit history (1)
I dont think Warren can, the liberal Senator from Mass will not play well in the rust belt.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DrFunkenstein
(8,745 posts)The one with the populist message of sticking it to the fat cats?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
doc03
(35,299 posts)EC. A far left candidate will not win in the rust belt states we need.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bradshaw3
(7,488 posts)That is a RW talking point. Her positions are supported by voters and she will win the EC.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calguy
(5,294 posts)Slightly to the right of AOC. She plays well here on DU but that's because the fine folks here on DU are further left than the general population.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Biden is up 9. I dont think Warren can win the rust belt and so so far the numbers bear that out
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bradshaw3
(7,488 posts)I've posted before about how front runners in the last 50 years rarely win the Democratic nomination. But those facts aren't taken seriously by people like you while any poll showing Biden ahead now means he will without a doubt win the nomination and the general. Funny how that works.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mapol
(91 posts)and that Elizabeth Warren would not win in the rust belt states. In the event that Biden does win the POTUS Election, however, I could live with a Biden Presidency. I'd rather have Biden as the POTUS than another term with Donald Trump any day, if worst came to worst.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SteveDallas
(37 posts)I have already seen traces of Biden supporters saying that Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada don't matter for various reasons and the race REALLY begins in South Carolina. However, IF Warren wins Iowa and then goes on to win New Hampshire, it shatters Joe's whole electability argument. Much like happened in 2008, Clinton was up double digits in South Carolina UNTIL Obama won Iowa, then she fell and never recovered. She was no longer inevitable and people felt more free to vote their conscience.
Further.. I don't understand this concept of Biden as the one who can win.
It really seems like almost ANYONE can beat Trump EXCEPT for Biden, who will not inspire turnout.
Trump is wildly unpopular, but his base will show up anyway. But, people will still need a reason to vote other than "Not Trump" if you are asking them to spend hours in line, take a day off work or whatever other hurdles they have to jump. Not enough people are going to do that for Biden.. his record doesn't support that type of devotion. His plans won't inspire people to show up. Seriously, what's the message? "Nominate me so we can go back to the way things were, you remember, when you didn't show up to vote before?"
Warren, Sanders.. THEY will inspire people to stand in line because you can look at their plans and see tangible reasons to stand in line. Student debt cancellation alone will bring out MILLIONS of voters who will happily spend the day waiting to vote. Medicare for All, highly popular.. again, something people will be willing to stand in line for.
You want to risk this GIFT of an election? Promise people incrementalism and more of what they decided to stay home from in 2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)EW polls at 2% with the AA voting block, no one can win the general without them.
Biden polls at 53% Quinnipiac
Another poll WSJ/NBC 46%
More at the link
https://thegrio.com/2019/08/01/joe-biden-top-choice-black-voters-quinnipiac-poll/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SteveDallas
(37 posts)To be barely above 50% given his name recognition is a really bad sign, especially given his name recognition. Clinton had a larger share of the black vote in in the 2008 primary. https://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/17/poll.blacks.democrats/ "Among black registered Democrats overall, Clinton had a 57 percent to 33 percent lead over Obama."
This shows the immense lack of enthusiasm for Biden and why he can't win in a general election. People WILL NOT stand in line for him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Green Line
(1,123 posts)If Warren is the nominee, welcome to 4 more years of Trump
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SteveDallas
(37 posts)The ONLY thing that loses to Trump is low voter turnout. That's just a fact. Look at 2016 as evidence. Clinton was up by 8 points in Wisconsin going into election day, but they had record low turnout in democratic areas and the state is lost.
Biden has a major enthusiasm gap. We've done this before. We did it in 2004 and lost. We did it in 2016 and lost. Do you really need it to happen 3 times to figure out that people aren't going to stand in line just to vote AGAINST someone? They want something to vote FOR and there is nothing in Joe Biden's history to vote for.
Sorry, but reality is you go with ANOTHER Iraq War voter you are going to lose another close election due to low voter turnout among democrats in key states.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SteveDallas
(37 posts)nt
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And if the former, can you supply us with the objective analysis illustrating precisely it as such?
Or is it simply another opinion, like... 2+2=7?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SteveDallas
(37 posts)Despite 100% name recognition and being the VP of a very popular recent president, he has been unable to crack 35% in any poll. I know there is the excuse of it being a "20 person race", but it is actually a 4-6 person race, not unlike many others we have had in the past. (mostly a 4 person race in reality with Biden, Warren, Sanders, Harris, being the only real contenders). The fact that so many people have currently chosen "not Biden" is quite remarkable.
Another poll out today (https://www.investors.com/news/elizabeth-warren-joe-biden-sanders-democratic-race-biden-vs-trump/) shows how weak his support has become. I am sure how some will say this is just ANOTHER outlier, but I wonder how many OUTLIERS does it take to create a trend?
It is hardly opinion to point out that the VP of a very popular president SHOULD be walking away with this nomination and not struggling to maintain a lead and already dismissing the relevance of early states.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DrFunkenstein
(8,745 posts)The guy is a living vice president. Not too many of them.
You'd think there'd be a little more draw.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SteveDallas
(37 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-holds-commanding-lead-for-democratic-nomination
https://www.courthousenews.com/biden-holds-on-to-commanding-lead-in-crowded-race/
https://www.ibtimes.com/democratic-debates-biden-holds-commanding-19-point-lead-warren-second-2809638
https://www.floridadaily.com/joe-biden-holds-commanding-lead-in-florida-primary-according-to-new-poll/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SteveDallas
(37 posts)Trotting out a bunch of VERY OLD polls really doesn't help your position all that much.
Here is the most recent:
https://www.investors.com/news/elizabeth-warren-joe-biden-sanders-democratic-race-biden-vs-trump/ Biden +4
Is that now the 4th "outlier"??
One wonders how many outliers it takes to create a trend?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)Can and will win an election
As far as Clintons numbers in 2016, that is correct but they stayed home.
Black Democratic voters in PA admit they stayed home in 2016 are now ready to support Biden
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287253331
No lack of enthusiasm here!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SteveDallas
(37 posts)He is well behind other candidates with similar name recognition at the same point in the primary process.
Very poor showing so far by Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)Heres another opinion with some real political clout
If you care to look... are not!!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287264862
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bradshaw3
(7,488 posts)As I responded to you in another thread, Warren won the same percentage of AA voters as Hillary did in 2016. The polls now include two AA candidates and Obama's running mate. Those numbers will change as others drop out. To imply that AA voters will not vote for her is ridiculous with no factual basis. Yet you keep repeating it while saying Biden supporters are not unfairly attacking Warren. You can prove the latter is true, in your case, if you stop using this false attack.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Dough
(17,255 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)Its not surprising that Warren isnt that strong among black voters. She is, for all her populism, a former Harvard professor representing a very white state. Her following is disproportionately college-educated, higher income, and self-consciously progressive people who are sometimes called wine track voters (despite her professed affection for beer). Black Democrats are significantly less likely to self-identify as progressives than white Democrats.
Indeed, the one-dimensional nature of Warrens support is holding her back in places like South Carolina, where, according to a new Post and Courier poll, she is leading Biden among white voters but running a weak fourth among black voters, leaving her a bit behind Sanders overall.
As far as candidates dropping out heres a break down of how that plays out
Morning Consult's polling of voters' 2nd choices indicates no one can catch Biden by other
candidates dropping out or fading, simply because he does better or almost as well as any other candidate when voters are asked who their second choice would be.
https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/
Sanders supporters, when asked for their 2nd choice:
Biden 30%, Warren 27%, Harris 7%
Warren supporters, when asked for their 2nd choice:
Sanders 23%, Harris 20%, Biden 19%
Harris supporters, asked for their 2nd choice:
Warren 28%, Biden 23%, Sanders 12%
Buttigieg supporters, asked for their 2nd choice:
Warren 22%, Biden 20%, Harris 17%
So, if any of these candidates dropped out or drastically lost support, apparently Biden would pick up approximately as many of their supporters as his nearest rivals would.
And in case anyone's wondering about Biden supporters' 2nd choice:
Sanders 26%, Warren 19%, Harris 13%
More st the link!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bradshaw3
(7,488 posts)You and others keep painting Warren as someone who WON'T get black votes. That is ludicrous and is certainly an unfounded attack. You are being disengenuous at best.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)Heres a poll out just today.
No being disingenuous by posting polls and facts
You can take a look.... or not
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287264850
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bradshaw3
(7,488 posts)Also, your experiences are just just anecdotal.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SteveDallas
(37 posts)SAYING you will vote is one thing.
Standing in line to do it is another completely.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)Certainly not representative of the United States as a whole.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SteveDallas
(37 posts)However, they will decide momentum and if Biden doesn't win them, he will lose South Carolina b/c it will shatter his only remaining talking point, which is this myth of him being more electable.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 5, 2019, 02:59 AM - Edit history (1)
Biden 51%
Warren 2%
https://www.courthousenews.com/biden-way-ahead-of-democratic-rivals-in-south-carolina/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dem4decades
(11,269 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JudyM
(29,204 posts)to the past. The other candidates are talking nuts and bolts programs and future-focused fixes. Joes vision keeps referring to the past. Too much is broken to go back, IMO. We need bold fixes and new initiatives and ideas.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)revolution to protect existing safety net which Trump and Republicans want to gut.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)made, my point being that adding new, untested, politically and financially cost intensive plans could divert from the threat we face to Republican plans for usto gut the safety net.
Biden has said he is committed to protecting these programs.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DrFunkenstein
(8,745 posts)Republicans have pulled the center far to the right by consistently pushing for extremes, then "settling" on what they wanted in the first place.
If you look at the state of the environment over the last 5 years, you'd understand that we're not in a position for baby steps.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)we are barely center left...Look at the Senate and state governments...we pull left with no support...you have to hit the middle again first.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)why do they matter more than the others do? A delegate is a delegate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brewens
(13,543 posts)voters last time and it wasn't enough. I think Trump got a lot of people that were convinced Hillary wouldn't do much for them but thought Trump would or might anyway.
I think voters need to hear that we can have what the wealthy have had for so long, a government that does good things for us with our tax dollars. The looting has to stop. Too much of our tax money goes right to the top.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Champion Jack
(5,378 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,917 posts)this article was written (and that Monmuth's director had admitted was an outlier by the itme the article in the OP was published), and saying Warren is "surging" when her numbers have been creeping up slowly for months.
A Harris X poll I posted about this weekend used the words "inching past" to describe Warren finally doing better than Sanders among likely voters in their poll.
Warren is slowly, quite slowly, gaining more support from the progressive bloc of the party that Sanders had dominated earlier this year. She now has roughly the same amount of support he does (she's in 2nd place in some polls, he's in 2nd place in others), which is definitely better than having about a quarter of that bloc of support, as she did earlier this year.
But there's no real sign yet that she'll ever overtake Biden.
And she hasn't been doing as well as even Sanders, let alone Biden, in the polls of different candidates in match-ups against Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)good enough candidate without the hyperbolic and false claims.
Supporters should be able to address what would make her the best president of all other candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)As the article pointed out, if she wins Iowa and New Hampshire, I think it's all over for the rest.
If she continues to dominate debates, she could end the prinary race before voting even starts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)That would be a recipe for disaster in the general which I do not believe she can win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Green Line
(1,123 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,241 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,241 posts)others should do the same and something as simple as that would help to fix many problems in this country.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)and say basically take it or leave...they will leave it in numbers that will cost the general. We need enthusiasm in the AA community to win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bradshaw3
(7,488 posts)In 2016, Warren won re-election with the same percentage of AA voters as HRC.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/4-things-elizabeth-warrens-last-election-can-tell-us-about-2020/
This "AA voters won't vote for Warren" seems to be the latest smear Biden supporters are using against Warren and it is absurd. Obama's former running mate and two AA candidates are in the race. She has been warmly received at AA events and will get the same percentage of those votes, or more, than HRC did in the general. This really smells of desperation by Biden supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)And no one is smearing her.
Sticking to the facts
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bradshaw3
(7,488 posts)Facts? I posted facts. You and others are making claims without facts. That is smearing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)Without saying so.
That isnt a smear.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)Click the abuse alert button.
If someone is smearing you the DU adm will take care of it for you!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bradshaw3
(7,488 posts)I never said I was smeared, so I'm beginning to think you have a reading comprehension problem.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)Heres what they have to say
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DrFunkenstein
(8,745 posts)"There's been a huge shift among African-American Democrats from Clinton to Obama. African-American Democrats used to be reluctant to support Obama because they didn't think a black man could be elected. Then Obama won Iowa and nearly won New Hampshire. Now they believe," said Bill Schneider, CNN senior political analyst.
"Obama's lead over Clinton among black men is more than 50 points, and among black women, once a Clinton stronghold, Obama has an 11 point advantage," said CNN polling director Keating Holland.
https://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/18/poll.2008/index.html
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blm
(113,015 posts)Warren, and many of them like her very much. My NC Dem women groups are majority women of color and Warren and Harris top their preferences.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
She has gotten very warm receptions at AA events. To imply she wouldn't get their votes or they have something against her is absurd.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,015 posts)recent attack lines targeting Warren, as well. Its only a handful here, though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,015 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SteveDallas
(37 posts)As many commentators have said, the AA voters vote pragmatically. If they believe she can win, they will vote for her.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)others miss...is that AA voters are not left...they are moderates. I campaign with them. Warren has little appeal for them...and I do not believe that changes. And it doesn't matter is she wins an all white state with very left leaning Democrats...their concern is beating Trump not other Democrats...regardless of Iowa or New Hampshire which she is not leading in at the moment...he sweeps super Tuesday and is on his way to the nomination...this is my prediction. No way Iowa or New Hampshire will determine the nominee in 20. If Warren can't attract AA voters she should not be the nominee...very important constituency. I will vote blue no matter who naturally as I always do..but the fallout for another four years of Trump will be horrible and very difficult to recover from especially as we likely lose the house with a preceived left/socialist candidate...and they (GOP ) will brand her as a socialist whether it is true or not which it isn't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SteveDallas
(37 posts)And it is NOT a 20 candidate race. 14 of those 20 candidates don't really even exist. There are only 4-6 viable candidates in reality and everyone knows that. Biden is running FAR TOO LOW in the AA vote given where he SHOULD BE running. But, his support is very weak.
If he loses Iowa, he will lose New Hampshire, if he loses those 2, he loses Nevada. If he goes in South Carolina as a 3 time loser, he loses. Which is a good thing, because the ONLY risk of getting another 4 years of Trump is someone like Biden who would depress turnout. With Warren or Sanders or Harris you will see close to 60% nationwide turnout and overwhelming victories. With Biden you will get another 55% turnout and end up losing swing states by small numbers and likely not take back the Senate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)and one of them just stepped in so she'd have some competition. No one else wanted to run against her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SteveDallas
(37 posts)Not bad numbers for a Senator running against someone who was a former VP.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)win a general...we elect presidents via electoral college...she won't carry the states we need...she would have my vote in a general of course.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SteveDallas
(37 posts)Biden puts the win in jeopardy, as it will lead to ANOTHER low voter turnout election.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)inspiring, his plans do-able, and he is hands down the most job-specific qualified. He had a great track record as VP. He will appeal to swing voters. He makes an authentic emotional connection with audiences. He will draw the widest swath of voters. He is currently running far ahead with
potential, and very likely, AA electorate.
A wing of the Dem party is not enthusiastic.
Hardly adds up to Biden putting a win in jeopardy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)I like her and would support her in a general...but I don't think she can win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,015 posts)I am quite certain I have followed this nations political and governance realities closely enough to not NEED to be told how to vote by someone displaying more ego than sense.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)Biden to win back the Mid West without which we have no electoral college path. I will support Warren and anyone else in a general...will work my ass off for this person, and will never express any opinion that they might lose said general in any post or on social media either...but this is a primary so I feel I can express my opinion as can you. We can agree to disagree.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Joe941
(2,848 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tblue37
(65,227 posts)appoint a Republican to her seat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)have run...vote blue no matter who.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tblue37
(65,227 posts)scoundrels.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)She has indeed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bradshaw3
(7,488 posts)As I and many others have pointed out to you, there will be a special election when she is elected and a Dem will win. Right now all you have against Warren are falsehoods and false memes. Doesn't say much for your candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)who call me a liar when I post that need to do a bit of research.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)Now I suggest you look it up before you call anothe poster a liar...we haved lost a special election in Masssachussets...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)I relate to Warren politically but Biden is, hands down, a better GE canidate. That said, Biden will win SC. a6nd the South in its entirety. My guess is he will do well in rust belt and on West coast, as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mapol
(91 posts)especially somebody who's as intelligent, knowledgeable and as articulate and concise as Elizabeth Warren. I watched her in one of the Democratic Candidate debates on TV sometime ago, and she seemed like the most intelligent, articulate, and the calmest of the bunch.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)lifetime...I would settle happily for a Democratic president in 20.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gopiscrap
(23,726 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
FloridaBlues
(4,007 posts)Unless she gets more support from POC don't see it happening. I wouldn't use outlier polls to make your case.
If she ends up being nominee I will work hard to gotv for her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,471 posts)I do not want to lose in 20...Biden has the best chance in this state and other must win states.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DrFunkenstein
(8,745 posts)I wouldn't be counting too many chickens just yet.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided