Joe Biden Panned for Evasive Answers, Bloody Eye at CNN Town Hall: 'Rambling, Incoherent Mess'

[JoeOtterbein]

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By Reed Richardson Sep 4th, 2019, 9:55 pm

Former Vice President Joe Biden’s performance at the CNN climate change town hall was roundly panned as offering vague, evasive answers on climate policy and an upcoming fundraiser with a fossil fuel executive — although many viewers were apparently just distracted and grossed out by his left eye, which inexplicably filled with blood during the event.

Numerous online critics called out Biden for noncommittal responses and thought that he struggled to offer coherent replies. That last criticism centered on a question from an audience member who took direct aim at the 2020 presidential candidate’s pledge to refuse money from the fossil fuel industry, by confronting Biden about the fundraiser the candidate has scheduled for the very next night at the home of a natural gas executive.

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[trueblue2007]

1. this article LIES. i watched the entire session. Biden's eye DID NOT FILL WITH BLOOD.

HOW CAN YOU POST THIS? IT'S A LIE.

HE DID NOT SUFFER and studder, and was cohere the whole way through.

[George II]

4. Sounds like trump's lie about Meghan Kelly years ago, doesn't it?

[betsuni]

31. Maybe someone punched him in the face backstage.

I wonder who it could be!

[George II]

32. I think he probably got assaulted by a shower door and needed seven phantom stitches.

[ehrnst]

67. .....

[virgogal]

19. An eye hemorrhage is not an insult,it DOES happen.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

52. It did happen... are people here saying the pics are fake?!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!

[yellowdogintexas]

59. I have had two of them. It's just a leaking capillary

They don't hurt, but one can't wear contacts until it goes away.

I was talking with my aunt one day and watched one develop in her eye. It began as a tiny little red dot which gradually got bigger. Finally, I asked her if her eye hurt, which it didn't so I told her that her eye looked like it was bleeding. The whole inner corner of her eye was solid red.

She went to the dr and he told her it was nothing to worry about

[Celerity]

20. Watch: Joe Biden's Bleeding Eye During CNN Town Hall

https://heavy.com/news/2019/09/joe-biden-bleeding-bloody-eye/

Joe Biden’s eye appeared to be bleeding during a CNN town hall on climate change. Eagle-eyed viewers took to Twitter to express concern about the bloody eye.

While others questioned whether photos on Twitter of Biden’s bloody eye were photoshopped, here’s video that shows that Joe Biden’s eye does appear to be bleeding or bloody during the CNN town hall. Washington Examiner reported that Biden’s eye appeared to have a burst blood vessel during the CNN town hall on September 4, 2019. You can watch the video and judge for yourself.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Joe Biden’s eye may have exploded on national TV

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/joe-biden-eye-climate-change-town-hall/

[Green Line]

21. I've had that and so have other people I know

[myohmy2]

28. oh boy...

...is that serious?

...it looks terrible...

...is it painful?

...

[Green Line]

34. No

Not serious and it doesn’t hurt, goes away in a few days

[Celerity]

38. I honestly do not know, I am not a medical doctor and never had this happen to me nt

[Autumn]

29. Maybe subconjunctival hemorrhage? I've had that happen when I was on a high blood

pressure med.

[jberryhill]

45. He nearly had an aneurysm a while back

[Celerity]

55. he had 2 in 1988, and had brain surgery to fix it (which obviously was a major success)

Biden Resting After Surgery For Second Brain Aneurysm

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/05/04/us/biden-resting-after-surgery-for-second-brain-aneurysm.html

Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. underwent surgery today to correct an aneurysm in an artery that supplies blood to the right side of the brain, a spokesman for the Walter Reed Army Medical Center said.

The spokesman, Peter Esker, said Senator Biden was awake, resting comfortably and talking with his family after the operation, his second this year to correct an aneurysm. An aneurysm is a ballooning of an artery.

The 4 1/2-hour procedure was similar to that performed Feb. 12 on the left side of Mr. Biden's brain. Under the procedure, a surgeon using a microscope pinches the aneurysm with a clip, bringing the walls of the artery together. The clip remains in the patient.

Mr. Esker said there are no signs of any other aneurysms, adding that the second was much smaller than the first.

''The Senator is awake and alert, oriented, moving all extremities well and is conversing with his family,'' Mr. Esker said. ''He is expected to be hospitalized about 10 days and then would go home to recuperate.''

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden

In February 1988, after suffering from several episodes of increasingly severe neck pain, Biden was taken by long-distance ambulance to Walter Reed Army Medical Center and given lifesaving surgery to correct an intracranial berry aneurysm that had begun leaking; the situation was serious enough that a priest had administered last rites at the hospital. While recuperating, he suffered a pulmonary embolism, which represented a major complication. Another operation to repair a second aneurysm, which had caused no symptoms but was also at risk from bursting, was performed in May 1988. The hospitalization and recovery kept Biden from his duties in the U.S. Senate for seven months. Biden has had no recurrences or effects from the aneurysms since then. In retrospect, Biden's family came to believe that the early end to his presidential campaign had been a blessing in disguise, for had he still been campaigning in the midst of the primaries in early 1988, he might well have not have stopped to seek medical attention and the condition might have become unsurvivable.

[Hekate]

61. 30+ years ago. He also has an endorsement from his brain surgeon...

...for this presidential run. The Doc said that he had seen inside Biden's brain, and given the choice between Biden and Trump, he'd take the one with a working brain, thank you.

[pnwmom]

64. That's just what it looks like. It's common and usually not a big deal,

though he should get a doctor to check it out.

[pnwmom]

63. He did appear to have a burst blood vessel in his eye. This is shown in stills and in video.

I've had this happen. Usually a burst blood vessel is benign. But he should see a doc to make sure.

The photo below was posted by someone who appears to be a fan (as evidenced by the second tweet)

https://heavy.com/news/2019/09/joe-biden-bleeding-bloody-eye/

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[sandensea]

79. Oh, boy. Here come the Lizard People accusations from the Chumpkins.

To which I'd say, I'd rather have that lizard, than this one:

[cilla4progress]

2. I think it's E Warren's to lose.

she and Bernie have a powerful bloc.

Joe's time has come and gone.

She needs a good VP pick - Booker or Castro.

[LincolnRossiter]

3. Lol.

Just lol.

[EveHammond13]

5. people really don't want to think about where the entire electorate is

[redstatebluegirl]

76. Some people think we can win if we win California and the North East and nothing else.

[AlexSFCA]

7. are they more likely to beat trump in general than biden?

we have no margins to spare.
Democratic policies are largely irrelevant in 2020 election. Congress legislates not president. It all comes down to candidate’s perception by apolitical segment of voters, not even actual facts.

[redstateblues]

11. Check EW's WI numbers. She's tied with Trump. Joe's up 9

She can’t win back the rust belt. Another Electoral College disaster

[5starlib]

15. Yeah, Massachusetts is hers to lose

She'll probably got wiped out in 40 states.

[Green Line]

18. She won't beat Joe in Mass

She isn’t all that popular here. If Joe Kennedy or Maura Healey had primaried her, she would have gotten beat.

[Green Line]

16. You really should hope not

She can’t win the general.

[Lordquinton]

44. What an absurd thing to say

All our candidates can.

[Green Line]

46. No they can't

This election is about 3 or 4 states, not the popular vote. If it was a popular vote election, I agree that most of our candidates could win. She will not win the rust belt.

[LonePirate]

49. Any of our candidates can win MI and PA. We will win AZ even if we lose WI so it's a wash.

[Demsrule86]

72. Not they can't...she is tied with Trump...Biden up by double digits...but all nasties hopefully

won't work this time...We need to beat Trump and no one will win back the mid west save Biden.

[emmaverybo]

35. Goodness knows what you base this opinion on other than wishful thinking. Things could

change, but she has lots of work to do. She has tied herself to a host of policy initiatives she will keep needing to explain and defend. Wish she would prune and prioritize.

Those VP picks? Heavens. Both bright people with nothing to offer EW where she will need help.

[LakeArenal]

37. Everyone has an opinion.

There’s another line that comes next.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

54. Couldn't agree more... a powerful bloc indeed!!

Why we need them BOTH on the ticket, without question, as I've been advocating for 3 years... could see this coming from a mile away.

There's a reason Biden lost two Democratic primary races... this is no time for moderate incrementalism. We need a strong progressive agenda and only Bernie & Elizabeth, as a team, can be trusted to follow through and give We The People what we are demanding of our politicians


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!

[htuttle]

6. The only coverage of this I'm finding is in right wing sources

CNN doesn't even talk about it in their coverage, and in the video clips they have available, it doesn't look like his eye's bloody.

This is smelling like troll droppings.

[bigtree]

9. it's a rw meme

...and you're correct that it doesn't appear on any reputable news org's site.

[trueblue2007]

12. well that is why i am reporting this. it is not true

[Alhena]

8. You realize we got to watch it ourselves right?

I thought he did well- I don't rely upon some obviously biased article to tell me what to think.

[Atticus]

10. For what it is worth, I watched parts of that program and heard from Yang, Klobuchar, Harris

and Biden. Biden was attacked by several questioners and I thought he parried most of them pretty well. My overall impression of him was not that he was "losing it"but that he was sincere and genuine.

I find it amazing that none of the other candidates ever misspeak or fail to be entirely precise in all they say.

[highplainsdem]

13. LOL! Biden is panned by Sanders & Warren supporters on Twitter. OMG how newsworthy!

[betsuni]

14. "Numerous online critics called out Biden"

[George II]

22. "online critics"!!! You've got it, double....

[DrToast]

23. People are saying...

[dalton99a]

25. Many, many people

including many people in Russia

[LakeArenal]

40. Believe me!!!

[W_HAMILTON]

17. Whoever wrote this is clueless.

After all the "gaffe" stories, I was actually surprised at how articulate and well thought out Biden's responses were. I see why the voters have been overwhelmingly supporting him. If you watched his town hall and came away with these takeaways, you should reevaluate your priorities and maybe do a little self-reflection as to why you are seeing what a plurality of would-be Democratic voters do not.

[George II]

24. Reminds me, I have to get a landscaper here soon to trim my holly bushes.

[JoeOtterbein]

30. See:

[link:https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=265445|

[hlthe2b]

70. Holly reference? I didn't get to watch...?

[emmaverybo]

26. Boy, this is desperate. The article. The post, well, I am sure it could not be an

intentional participation in a blatant lie. I saw Joe. I am pretty adept at judging public speaking. But let me not crow on that score.

He was subject conversant, knowledgeable, fluent and had good presence throughout. He was never incoherent or rambling. He was focused.

He is a well trained speaker who, unlike some rivals, does not employ repetitive and distracting arm and hand gestures that do nothing to emphasize specific points or disperse obvious nervousness. Some could use coaching. Too “warm” is not good. Joe has good variation in vocal expression while some stay at one keyed-up level. Admittedly, some audiences prefer this warmer level.

Actually, though I only caught some of Bernie, he came across as balanced tonight, serious and in
command, but not haranguing, abrasive.

[Grasswire2]

27. "numerous online critics".............pitiful characterization!!

Who wrote this crap?

The use of "NUMEROUS ONLINE CRITICS" is an admission of tainted reporting here.

[democratisphere]

33. Interesting the lengths some Democrats will go to attack the Democratic

front runner so as to try and somehow improve their preferred much lower positioned candidate(s) position. It is no wonder we are where we are, and if this sh't keeps up, will be.

[George II]

42. "Democrats"? You're too nice.

[LonePirate]

50. Given the senile dullard in the WH now, some Dems want the sharpest tool in the shed (Warren).

[Laura PourMeADrink]

36. Bull

[LakeArenal]

43. Hi!!!!

You should see where I am!!!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

48. Send me pic on email! So glad you're alive!!!!!

[LakeArenal]

53. Better than alive

Except internet and email are very difficult here.
Will send when I figure it out. But have had quite the time.

By Oct 1 things will change a lot. I will have good internet and will be in heaven.

I’ll pm you tomorrow. With a long story.

[JanetLovesObama]

39. This post is bullshit.

I watched Joe's entire 40 minutes and found him VERY strong and better than I have seen him so far. His one eye was a little red but my right eye stays red constantly from allergies and a leaky eye. You people trashing Bid over this bullshit need to leave. And I am a Beto supporter.

[trueblue2007]

41. if you think so ..... report it !!!!

[OilemFirchen]

47. From the fingertips of Reed Richardson, noted media critic....

at Common Dreams, Alternet and Truthout.

I swooned.

[RhodeIslandOne]

56. For fuck's sake

Is he near death like Hillary too?

[Gothmog]

57. Joe was great tonight

Link to tweet

[vercetti2021]

58. My friend this is pathetic

Stop no one is getting fooled

[tirebiter]

60. Biden is top choice for climate-minded 2020 voters: Poll

<a href="https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/450061-poll-finds-biden-the-top-choice-for-climate-minded-voters">





"Former Vice President Joe Biden is the top choice for president among likely Democratic voters who are focused on the climate, according to a new poll.

The online poll, released Monday as a collaboration between the Sierra Club and Morning Consult, limited its results to voters who said candidates' plans for the climate are an important factor in their vote.

While Biden would be the top choice for 37 percent of climate-minded voters, Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) came in second and third with 19 percent and 15 percent, respectively.

The results echo other national polls of Democrats, which have largely found Biden far ahead of Sanders and Warren, with the senators in a tough fight for second place.

[Raine]

62. My father had that happen it scared him to death but

the doctor told him it was no big deal, nothing to worry about. It cleared up on it's own.

[pnwmom]

65. Your dad was right to see a doctor. It usually is no big deal,

but a doctor would check some things (like blood pressure) before telling a patient that.

[gordianot]

66. Wow a bleeding eye on TV.

That makes me want to vote for someone I despise above all others who inhabit this planet.


To replace Trump or for that matter any Republican I require a breathing Democratic non Putin aligned candidate.

[LanternWaste]

68. This is troubling for Bernie.

[hlthe2b]

69. I didn't get to see it. I am seeking an actual unbiased review/recap, unlike this apparent hit piece

Any DUers (especially true "undecideds" ) able to point me to a source?

[Demsrule86]

71. The media at it again I see..that is total bullshit...I watched it.

This is why I listen to nothing said or writted about Biden by the media...they did the same to Hillary.

[treestar]

74. It is fun to watch these things without the media or off DU

and then go onto DU to see all the interpretation. It is sad how people let the media influence them. The pundits must love seeing how they can get people going.

[Demsrule86]

75. I didn't think he did bad in the first debate until the media pounced.

The media gave us Trump...won't allow them to sway me at all.

[Gothmog]

73. Joe was great last night at the townhall

Link to tweet

[awesomerwb1]

77. Sometimes I think I have inadvertently ended on a RW website

when reading some of the shit like what's on this thread.

The disrespect to our candidates under a veil of "FaIrNeSs" is hOnEsTlY pretty pathetic.

"Vote Blue No Matter Who" they claim publicly, but in reality a lot of you will "ProTeSt vote" third party or even trump because "the system" if their preferred candidate doesn't win the nomination. And some "undecideds" are not fooling anyone.

We can do better DU, can't we? Yes?

[stonecutter357]

78. you change my mind about Biden ......

JK !

[Baclava]

80. Joe Biden's bloody eye was the perfect metaphor for his disastrous CNN climate town hall

Joe Biden had a terrible performance at CNN's town hall on the climate crisis, and he has the battle scars to prove it.

The former vice president joined other 2020 candidates Wednesday night to discuss their promised answers to climate change and, naturally, some questions left a few contenders stuck. But Andrew Yang's non-answer to quantifying carbon reduction was nothing compared to the whammy Biden suffered when asked about an upcoming fundraiser hosted by a founder of a fossil fuel company.

Early in Biden's time onstage, he was hit with what The New York Times called "probably the toughest question of the night:" How can Biden take on the fossil fuel industry when he's holding a Thursday fundraiser hosted by Andrew Goldman, a co-founder of liquefied natural gas production company? Biden first insisted Goldman is "not a fossil fuel executive," then seemed not so sure, and then recentered the blame on his staff.

Twitter had one question: “What the hell just happened?”

“Joe Biden’s eye just started bleeding? This isn’t a joke what in the hell just happened”



https://theweek.com/speedreads/862986/joe-bidens-bloody-eye-perfect-metaphor-disastrous-cnn-climate-town-hall

[Tarheel_Dem]

82. Reed Richardson, whose work appears regularly in The Nation & Common Dreams. 'Nuff said.