Serious question. Where does Uncle Joe stand on fracking? Thanks. nt

[babylonsister]

[TwilightZone]

1. From a quick Google search:

"On fracking, Mr. Biden said he opposes new drilling on federal lands but not a nationwide ban. He said he would re-examine existing wells to assess their safety and work to “change the attitude” of governors and state legislators to restrict drilling on state lands."

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2019/democrats-climate-town-hall/joe-biden-climate-change

[babylonsister]

2. And why not a nationwide ban? Not good imo. Thanks. nt

[Blue_true]

4. Because states control fracking on state and in

some cases, private land. For Biden to get a nationwide ban, he would have to sue states to take away their control and win the lawsuits, a tall order.

The people who you should be looking sideways at are the ones saying that they would ban fracking on Day One, that is posdible on federal land, but not state land, tribal land or private land.

[Demsrule86]

12. Yes saying what folks want to hear...not good. Here in Ohio,you never hear about fracking as it

expensive and dirty to pull out of the ground...natural gas is cheaper...the geniuses in Ohio jus voted to boost coal while putting a hit on wind...wind provides jobs...coal not so much.

[Blue_true]

22. How are citizens taking the coal boost vote?

Seems farmers would be pissed, some sell space for wind towers on their farms.

[Demsrule86]

24. They are pissed...it means job losses...coal is dead no matter what. So the crypt keeper governor

(not about his age...but about his lack of 21st century thinking) Sacrficed jobs for nothing. We need green energy jobs. This is the future. But as long as people fall for GOP tricks and keep electing these asshats...nothing will ever change...so tired of this shit.
And we have our share of Trump nutters although he is underwater here...real chance Biden will carry Ohio...he got it for Pres. Obama twice. But in the meantime we have Trump who encourages white supremacists and crazies.

The guy who wanted to blow up or shoot up a Planned Parenthood Clinic is in a youngstown township (Boardman) this is the clinic my girls go to for their care...we support Planned Parenthood. They take insurance and we all get our care there and donate.

[FBaggins]

28. Natural gas is cheaper?

But that’s because of fracking.

[Demsrule86]

30. That is true...it holds the price down...but you don't need that much to do so...and it burns clean.

Thus it is a good transitional energy...while renewable are being ramped up.

[betsuni]

5. He said that legislation at the national level couldn't get done as far as getting the votes

unless there's proof of physical security risk (like explosions) that would be seen as legitimate threat. But we don't have an EPA anymore.

[babylonsister]

9. I wonder why proof of poisoning

the environment isn't sufficient.

[Amishman]

21. Because a total ban on fracking would be unpopular and economic suicide

Shale oil is dependent on fracking and is 6.5 million barrels per day. Shale gas is 25% of us production. Those Wells also are short lived and regularly need to be refracked. A ban would quickly shut down that production - which would lead to widespread shortages and huge price spikes.

The solution is to eliminate demand, not supply. Without demand, production will fall off.

How to eliminate demand? Fund expansion of renewables and nuclear, subsidize electric cars, and electric house heating.

[Demsrule86]

25. Yep, people don't get that climate change and environmental policy will only work as long as

jobs aren't threatened...the first job loss will be the end of the policy...also huge increases in fuel costs will do it too.

[ReformedGOPer]

23. or, the prevalence of earthquakes because of drilling into the earth's crust

[Demsrule86]

13. I would add that any candidate who says he/she will end fracking on day one is lying...this is a

state issue. So your question is just a wayto bash Biden as I expected.

[vsrazdem]

3. What is with the Papa Joe and Uncle Joe? I know some might think it is charming but I find it a

little disrespectful.

[babylonsister]

6. We've known him for many years now, and love him. That's it, not

meant to be disrespectful.

[Demsrule86]

11. Really?

[babylonsister]

20. Really.

I do like Candidate/Mr. Biden. The fact Obama did too holds a lot of weight with me.

[Demsrule86]

26. Good to know.

[OilemFirchen]

7. Indeed.

[vsrazdem]

8. That is disrespectful too. I had 1 dad and he is gone now, and Bernie definitely is not it.

[Demsrule86]

10. Look it up on google...instead of posting what is not really a question...

attcking the front runner and likely nominee is not helpful...Personally, I have refrained from posting shit about other candidates for fear of helping Trump and the republicans. The google Gods can answer your questions I am quite certain....I have no interest in doing so.

[babylonsister]

15. Then don't respond.

I did look it up on google but was hoping there was a more nuanced answer other than Biden supporting fracking.

[Demsrule86]

16. No problem... you thought you knew the answer...I just see no point in such 'questions'.

[BannonsLiver]

18. I think you were hoping to start an argument, tbh.

[babylonsister]

19. No, I'm weighing the pros and cons of

our candidates. I was on FB and someone posted that Biden supported fracking. I wanted to argue the point but also wanted to have my facts straight. So I figured this was the place to go. I'm glad I didn't argue and am disappointed.

[bigtree]

14. Kamala Harris

Harris: "There’s no question I’m in favor of banning fracking"
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/climate-crisis-town-hall-august-2019/h_c00aebb85c10dd5d6c883a2df6a34425

December 20, 2016

California Attorney General Kamala Harris filed suit Monday to block oil fracking off the coast of California.

The complaint, filed by Harris office and the California Coastal Commission, specifically challenges a federal environmental assessment that clears the way for drillers to resume the controversial method of oil exploration.

The suit argues that the U.S. Department of the Interior and two of its agencies, the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management and the Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement, failed to fully analyze and disclose the potential environmental risks of new offshore drilling processes like hydraulic fracturing, also known as fracking, and acidization. Both practices rely more on hazardous chemicals than do traditional extraction methods.

“The U.S. Department of Interior’s inadequate environmental assessment would open the door to practices like fracking that may pose a threat to the health and well-being of California communities,” Harris said Monday. “We must balance our energy needs with our longstanding commitment to protecting our natural resources and public health.”

https://www.ocregister.com/2016/12/20/california-sues-to-block-offshore-oil-fracking/

also:

https://www.kpbs.org/news/2016/dec/20/california-officials-sue-feds-over-offshore-fracki/

https://www.ecowatch.com/california-offshore-fracking-2157353530.html

[Demsrule86]

17. Is she now? Will she do it on day one? Of course it is as state matter and she can't ...but hey

whatever works for her.

[Demsrule86]

27. This makes me less likely to support her because A. she didn't know that she can't ban fracking or

B. she just said it in order to influence the election...politics... promise and more promises. But I prefer a candidate to be more honest abut what is possible.

While I don't support her in the primary should she stage a comeback and win the nomination, she has my full support in the general.

[Lulu KC]

29. Love her, but

I think all of the candidates are in favor of banning fracking. Only Bernie thinks that the federal govt actually could do that. Not sure he's right, but it again makes me think that our focus needs to go to the Senate race because ultimately that's who might save us.