Crying baby irritates Bernie Sanders.

[Quackers]

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/09/04/crying-baby-bernie-sanders-moos-pkg-vpx.cnn

A few weeks ago, I mentioned how Bernie always seems angry and shouting during the debates. I don’t think I like him at all now.

[NurseJackie]

1. Many people share your view.

I assure you that you're not alone in that.

[Merlot]

31. Many people also are annoyed by crying babies

[NurseJackie]

42. Indeed. I'm included in that group as well. Fortunately for me...

Many people also are annoyed by crying babies

Indeed. There are many people who are annoyed by crying babies. I'm included in that group as well. Fortunately for me, I don't need to demonstrate to others that I have the temperament and demeanor to be the Leader of the Free World.

I just think the whole "crying baby" thing is very revealing when it comes to letting voters know how a candidate will react to something that may be annoying, or unplanned, or distracting. Does he (or she) show empathy and compassion for the parent... who knows full well that their crying infant is a distraction... the parent doesn't need to be told... the parent doesn't need to be called-out or publicly humiliated. What good purpose does that serve?

Voters look for things like that and they cue-in on whether a candidate reveals that he (or she) is short-tempered and easily irritated. It lets voters know in advance if a candidate can adapt, make changes, and shift-gears in a way that's respectful to everyone. It's a clue to voters about how that candidate would react if he (or she) were to be the party's nominee. They imagine him (or her) in the Oval Office and try to decide if that's they type of person they'd be proud to call Mister or Madam President.

All I'm trying to say is that the winning candidate, the one who is chosen as our party's nominee, will be someone who has demonstrated that he (or she) is capable of showing kindness and empathy and patience... and someone who is flexible and understanding.

That's one of the things that I look for. I'm sure I'm not alone in that.

[ecstatic]

169. +1,000,000. If you can't at least pretend to enjoy a baby,

how the hell will you handle all the issues that presidents face on a daily basis?! Will you be screaming at all the staff and cursing out reporters (like trump?)?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

58. I am annoyed by crying babies, but I'm not running for president,

and if I were I'd keep my annoyance to myself. In fact, I almost always keep my annoyance to myself because babies cry and there's not much that can be done about it. If I do get annoyed it's because a parent doesn't take the crying baby out of the concert hall, church, etc., where it's annoying people. But someone who's running for president will just have to suck it up.

[Cha]

101. BS certainly was.

[Eliot Rosewater]

149. So KNOWING most if not all other candidates would have handled that VERY differently

you dont see an issue with it?

You dont see a window into the man here?

I have committed to support him if he is the D nominee even though he is NOT a D, but...

[Cha]

232. And some actually know how to handle it..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287266844#top

[NurseJackie]

233. Wasn't that fantastic?

[Cha]

234. AbsoFreakingLutley!

lol

[JI7]

2. Biden and Harris both so sweet with the kids . did you see how Trump was handling

that one baby on stage ? he looks like he is being forced to touch any kids and hates it.

[highplainsdem]

8. Yes, Biden and Harris are both great with kids. Trump, definitely not. And Sanders didn't

handle the situation with that crying baby at all well.

[Cha]

102. Yeah, not a good look for anyone.

Babies cry.. that's what they do.

[questionseverything]

205. biden and harris want to keep the war on mj going too

neither supports legalization at the federal level


to me that is way worse than how Bernie reacted to a cranky child

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. I was ready to see him doing his self-deprecating "I'm a cranky guy lol" thing there -- but I read

as totally serious.

[oldsoftie]

4. For Petes sake, we have to go to THIS level about a candidate?

I mean, i'm no Sanders fan; he's unelectable, his policies are not nearly funded, etc.
But to hit him for being irritated by a crying baby? Who HASNT been at one time?

[Quackers]

5. You're missing the bigger picture here.

It’s not just about getting annoyed over a crying baby. It’s a pattern that keeps popping up with Sanders personality. He’s quick to anger, he’s easily annoyed, and he tries to shout down anyone who disagrees with him. You really don’t see how this is relevant to his electability?

[oldsoftie]

19. Actually at this point i'd LOVE to see him lose his temper against Trump. ANYONE

But stick to policy and electability. It just seems as weak as saying "Biden is old" posts

[Quackers]

33. I disagree.

Someone saying that a candidate is too old is not the same as criticizing Bernie’s demeanor. Age is out of our control. How we act is not.

[oldsoftie]

48. Well, dammit, you're right.............crap.

[Hortensis]

92. Lol. ...crap. If I wanted a socialist revolution, Sanders disinterest

in individuals of any age wouldn't matter to me. As you say, policy is what matters, and he's not running to be some unfortunate's nanny.

Since I do not and actually hope Sanders will be too minor a presence to disrupt the convention (should whatever delegates he manages to have once again be inclined of course), I'm perfectly fine with people discussing his crankiness and boorishness. A lot.

[NurseJackie]

51. Thank you!

Age is out of our control. How we act is not.

Thank you!

It pleases me to see how many people here have higher expectations, standards and demands of the candidates who seek our party's nomination.

[Cha]

185. "Age is out of our control. How we act is not."

Exactly!

[NurseJackie]

219. I know!

The person I support for POTUS will be someone who knows how to act in public... who knows how to treat people with kindness and understanding and sympathy... who understands that when dealing with some of life's unexpected and irritating moments, the BEST thing you can do is smile and accept it with grace and humility. I want a POTUS who has the demeanor and temperament to NOT lose his (or her) temper and wag his (or her) finger at someone.

These things are important.

[Cha]

236. ..

".. someone who knows how to act in public.. "!

[comradebillyboy]

27. And those are his better qualities...nt

[nini]

86. Exactly the truth

Well said.

[NYMinute]

96. +1000 nt

[Lulu KC]

157. It would be an issue if he didn't already have an irritated demeanor

It seems like he is beloved by his fans when he is the epitome of a grumpy old man. No matter what the question, he sounds angry. I don't think this will hurt him much.
He's not my guy, but I actually kind of like the persona.

[smirkymonkey]

240. Bernie is a very cranky guy.

I pretty much agree with his politics for the most part, but he rubs me the wrong way. He is arrogant and intolerant in a number of ways.

I related a story about him years ago and got attacked. Nobody believed me, and even I voted for Bernie in the last Dem primary. Right after I graduated from college I moved to Burlington, VT for a little less than a year and waitressed on Church Street. He and some of colleagues came into my restaurant for lunch and he paid the bill.

He left me a measly 10% tip and barely acknowledged my existence during the entire meal. And no, there was no problem with the service. I was attentive, the food came out on time, I was polite, etc.

He was just a cheapskate and for all he talks about people needing a living wage, apparently he didn't seem to think that young women were part of that group that he is so passionate about fighting for. I think he is a hypocrite. I really have a lot of issues with him.

[Cha]

242. Exactly.

[mopinko]

10. trouble is, it is perfectly on brand.

not smart.

[treestar]

113. politicians can't

they are supposed to love babies.

We usually say babies know - babies love Democrats and they cry when Republicans hold them.

Obama was the ultimate baby-whisperer.

[Cha]

229. Yeah, you brush them off..

with waving the fingers and a rude attitude.

[Beringia]

6. Ya, a real Grinch (sarcasm)

And here is his wife, Jane O'Meara: Early in her career, Sanders worked in the Juvenile Division of the Burlington Police Department, and then as a community organizer with the King Street Area Youth Center, and for VISTA (Volunteers in Service to America), a job that helped her pay off her student loans.[1]

From 1981 to 1991, Sanders served as founding Director of the Mayor's Youth Office and Department Head in the City of Burlington. She was also active in K-12 education, elected as a School Board Commissioner, and was a founding member of the Women's Council & the Film Commission. In 1991, her husband, Bernie Sanders, was elected to the U.S. Congress. From 1991 to 1995, she worked in his office on a volunteer basis

[mcar]

14. What does that last photo have to do

with Bernie telling a baby to pipe down?

[Quackers]

23. It's ironic you say that because most people would say the opposite.

He slipped up in public.......maybe he’s like that in private?

[ehrnst]

75. So, are you saying that if he's being nice to babies, it means he's on his "best behavior" and if

he's irritated by them, it's because he's "not being superficial?"

[Cha]

100. SF restaurant owner says Bernie Sanders was 'cranky,' rude to staff

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=255755

He "lost a vote" from the owner of John's Grill.

[George II]

103. Seems like a pattern.

[Cha]

106. Not the first time.

[Cha]

225. lol smh

[Uncle Joe]

93. Bernie never told a baby to quiet down, obviously he was speaking to the parents or

guardians to quiet the baby.

[sheshe2]

109. ...

[Uncle Joe]

110. It says the video is unavailable however just from that still shot pic, I believe the circumstances

were entirely different.

Bernie was concentrating on answering a young man's question regarding insulin, if I remember correctly, (I could be wrong on that,) in a town hall.

[George II]

115. Here's the two videos (ignore the source of the Sanders video). Quite a contrast!

[Uncle Joe]

120. Yes the circumstances are entirely different,

President Obama wasn't trying to answer a serious question in a town hall.

[sheshe2]

123. Obama catches fainting pregnant woman.

President Obama catches a pregnant woman who almost fainted during his speech on Healthcare.gov in the Rose Garden.

[Uncle Joe]

125. Good for President Obama but it's not the same circumstance

a crying baby at a town hall.

[sheshe2]

130. Well I am sure you would agree...

That healthcare.gov is a pretty important topic. He took the time to not only catch her but call for a doctor as well.

How a politician acts and reacts is important.

[Uncle Joe]

132. She was standing next to him not at the other end of room and

the baby wasn't fainting.

[sheshe2]

145. No.

She was behind him not next to him as he was speaking at the podium in the Rose Garden about Healthcare.gov. I never said the baby was fainting, not sure a baby could do that in utero. Then again I have never been pregnant.

[Cha]

137. I don't think President Obama would have

been waving his fingers in the baby's direction for him/her to .. ".. keep that down a bit..".

[fleabiscuit]

154. Not exactly the sword I'd fall on. nt

[George II]

124. So you're hinting that if Obama was in the same position he would have barked at the kid?

[MrsCoffee]

126. Only in la la land.

[Uncle Joe]

127. Bernie never barked at the baby, he was speaking to the parents or guardians

to quiet (or the possible inference to remove the crying baby) while he was trying to focus on answering a serious question during a town hall.

[Cha]

138. I just told him that I don't think Pres Obama

would have..

I don't think President Obama would have

been waving his fingers in the baby's direction for him/her to .. ".. keep that down a bit..".

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=266783

[Cha]

139. P.S. It was BS' tone, too.. his attitude.

[Eliot Rosewater]

143. Sigh, dear god...

I know if I am talking in that situation I wont insinuate what I have to say is more important than anything.

Jesus FUCKING christ I want this primary OVER

[fleabiscuit]

155. +1

[Gothmog]

163. I miss President Obama

He was a truly great POTUS

[Gothmog]

162. This makes me smile

I miss having a real POTUS

[sheshe2]

201. I am with you there, Gothmog.

[George II]

197. Maybe those officers were telling him:

"We have a baby we'd like you to meet"!

[redstatebluegirl]

7. Bernie is a grumpy old guy.

I met him once, and did not come away feeling warm and fuzzy that is for sure. He is not a happy person.

[Kahuna7]

9. He doesn't come across as a people person. nt

[sheshe2]

146. This guy does, Kahuna.

Think about it. He could have been barfed upon and yet here he is having the time of his life.

Way cool~

[Cha]

156. Yeah, you could

hear that in his tone.. and waving of the fingers.

[hlthe2b]

11. Well, most are able to grin and bear it--they are the future after all. That said, I'm the ultimate

dog-lover, but even my tolerance can be overwhelmed by constant barking. Human nature to react to this kind of thing, I think, especially when we are focused on trying to convey an important message.

His reaction surely won't win him any kudos, but...

[Ohiogal]

12. At first

I thought this might be about how Trump irritates Bernie ......

[Jirel]

13. Oh Lordy.

Not everyone likes hecklers, noise, or other disruptions. It’s reasonable to expect a parent to remove a screaming infant causing a ruckus, quiet it, and return. “Babygate” deserves as much attention as “But her emails!”

[HelpImSurrounded]

21. +1

[mcar]

15. Joe, Liz, or Kamala would have gone and comforted the baby

[mcar]

18. Is this a joke?

[HelpImSurrounded]

25. Not at all

Candidates have always been evaluated based on their families. Not being married and/or not having children is suspicious to some people. A woman running for president who does not have children will be heavily criticized for it. Yes, it's entirely misogynist but it will happen.

[Gothmog]

39. I love the way that Senator Harris interacts with young girls at events

Link to tweet

[LincolnRossiter]

98. Really sweet and inspiring commercial.

NT

[Gothmog]

32. This video of Senator Harris make me smile

Link to tweet

[oldsoftie]

49. Hell, she's been criticized for having a white husband, why would "no kids" be a surprise?

You have racism, i guess you could have "childism"

[mcar]

54. It never ends

[LanternWaste]

26. And when it comes up, that alleged concern will be immediately mocked. As it should be.

[mcar]

34. That's right

Only a sexist, misogynistic asshole would think that's an issue.

[irisblue]

28. Why ?

[Gothmog]

30. Kamala Harris reminded this young girl to always hold her chin up

As the father of two daughters, I love this video of Harris

Link to tweet

[mcar]

36. She is so good with children

[Gothmog]

38. I have seen several videos of Senator Harris with young girls at events

She is amazing.

[mcar]

40. There is a real warmth about her

Reminds me of how President Obama is with children.

[Gothmog]

41. I miss having a real POTUS

I agree. Harris reminds me of President Obama in the way she interacts with young women

[NurseJackie]

62. I think she can handle those types of concern trolls...

... she's always proved to be quite capable. Fact of the matter is this: Women are not chattel to do as they are told... to be ordered about... to be baby-making-machines. It reveals much about ANYONE who would suggest (whether cleverly veiled, or directly) that a woman's reproductive decisions make her less worthy or less qualified. And do we know that it's a conscious decision and not related to anything medical?

All I'm trying to say is: "who the fuck cares??" and if someone does care (or pretends to care) my question then would be "why??" I think it's clear to everyone that such concerns reflect poorly upon that person... not on Senator Harris.

This whole subthread is just beyond absurd.

[ehrnst]

66. +1000. (nt)

[mcar]

81. +1000!

[sheshe2]

104. Thanks you.

[Eliot Rosewater]

202. Did I hear that someone HERE attacked Kamala for not having children? Please tell

me no.

[NurseJackie]

207. It was a sly and indirect smear... along the lines of the "some people say" bullshit.

It was somewhere in this thread, but now very difficult to see.

[Cha]

114. That's ridiculous. Not everybody

has children.

[mcar]

117. And you just know, Cha

That if Sen. Gillibrand was still in and in the top 4, "some" would be saying she couldn't be president because she has young children.

Women are never good enough, it seems.

[Cha]

121. Would he be saying that "no children" thing about Booker?

[mcar]

134. Good question

[Cha]

200. ..

[trueblue2007]

170. oh it will not. what a *&(&((&( comment !!!!!

[KPN]

133. .....

Really? You know this?

[mcar]

135. Given their interactions with parents and children on the campaign trail

I feel confident in saying this, yes.

Please show me where any other candidate told parents to quiet a child down during their speeches.

[Cha]

184. Good point, mcar!

When a baby cries during a speech, this is the response that I expect from a statesman...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287266844

[NurseJackie]

208. Wasn't that great?! :-) He turned a distraction into a positive moment!

I'm sure the parent already felt self-conscious enough... the attention had already been focused on the parent and the baby... but Biden saw an opportunity to smile at life's unexpected (and unavoidable) moments... and to send a positive message.

I must say, I'm so SICK AND TIRED of self-absorbed politicians to take themselves too fucking seriously, who are quick to anger... it's just not the type of demeanor and temperament that I can support... no matter who he (or she) is.

All I'm saying is it doesn't serve any good purpose for any politician to do or say things that are intended to call-out or humiliate people. It's just rude.

[Cha]

211. Totally agree.. that's what struck me, too.

All I'm saying is it doesn't serve any good purpose for any politician to do or say things that are intended to call-out or humiliate people. It's just rude.

[NurseJackie]

212. I'm tired of RUDE politicians.

[WA-03 Democrat]

20. It is Bernie's event

And he’s got the mic. Let him say what he wants. I disagree with some of his positions but this is simply what it is. I don’t think Bernie hates kids.

We have a President who without a doubt hates children and has implemented a policy of separation and putting them in cages. Some have died.

Compare and contrast!

[Cha]

118. Oh yeah.. we saw him "..say what he wants.."

[WA-03 Democrat]

142. Cha it's his show and I know ya know

He is showing us who he is. Let’s pick the best and bring the biggest Blue Wave ever. I love Joe. I hope it is Joe. I think he is the leader perfect at this time. He’s a caring man who loves the our country and will embrace our allies and kick ass on foreign policy. I want an experienced sane person. No more rookies. Any of our candidates are better by many miles.

I don’t like it when the Sanders supporters deride Joe but that is there choice.

Telling a baby to clam it vs. killing them in cages. Easy choice for a normal human.

Vote Straight Blue No Matter Who!

[Cha]

153. I always vote Blue.. it's BS' staff who

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didn't.

[WA-03 Democrat]

158. +1

[Meadowoak]

22. Babies don't belong at these events. Get a babysitter. Nothing more

Irritating than a screaming/crying baby. Be considerate of others and leave the kids at home.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

24. This is how women are kept out of politics.

[pandr32]

61. +1

[mcar]

37. Some parents can't afford a sitter

Should they not be allowed to be part of the political process? Some babies rely on mom for sustenance. Should those mothers not be allowed to be part of the process?

Who else shouldn't be allowed? People in wheelchairs? Sometimes, they create a stir if they are trying to find a place where they can see? The developmentally disabled? Sometimes they make noise.

How about those with allergies? I sneeze a lot when I'm around people who wear perfume. Should I be blackballed from these events? I'm a very loud sneezer.

[Meadowoak]

43. Sorry, but when I go to these events, I don't want to have to sit next

To a screaming child. I'm respectful of others and would never bring a child to one of these events. I find it rude!

[mcar]

44. Child wasn't screaming

Baby made one noise - one.

Had the child been screaming, the parent/guardian should have taken her/him out. This one was screech, that's all.

I'm respectful of others and would never bring a child to one of these events. I find it rude!

So you do think that parents should be deprived of the political process. Nice.

[Meadowoak]

47. These events are planned weeks in advance, I just think parents should make

Arrangements for someone to watch their child for an hour.

[mcar]

55. Some are, many aren't

I volunteered at several HRC rallies in 2016. They were put together with only a few days' notice.

Regardless, some parents cannot afford child care, even for one hour. Why do you think they should be deprived of participating in the process? Perhaps this parent really wanted to see and hear Sen. Sanders. Why is that wrong?

For heaven's sake, Bernie should be able to handle a little noise.

[Meadowoak]

63. Why should I be deprived of participating in the process because

Someone brings a screaming baby and sits next to me. I'm hearing impaired and it's difficult enough to hear anyway. The baby doesn't gain anything from attending a political event.

[ehrnst]

76. So you think that the people with the baby shouldn't have participated?

The child wasn't screaming and crying.

[Meadowoak]

79. Of course they should participate, but they should find a babysitter.

[ehrnst]

87. Usually when someone goes out with a baby it's because they can't find or afford a sitter.

Again, should they not be able to participate, even knowing that their baby would not be fussy?

[Eliot Rosewater]

150. This isnt about the baby or the parents, dont you SEE THAT?

[mcar]

82. Again, the baby was not screaming

Nice try.

The parent gains something from attending the political event and we, as a society, gain something from having younger voters participate.

[ehrnst]

91. Good to see that people can admit when they're wrong.

[mcar]

94. You too

[ehrnst]

88. Screaming? I guess you didn't watch the video before you commented on it...

[MrsCoffee]

129. It's not all about you.

Try a little tolerance.

[mcar]

136. +1!

[MrsCoffee]

128. Oh for fucks sake.

[Shell_Seas]

29. Reminds me of this:

[oldsoftie]

52. BEST SCENE EVER

[Blue_true]

161. Actually a better scene in that movie is when he tried snake-handling. nt

[oldsoftie]

196. And the dog punch as well. "Sir, those words have never been spoken in this church!"

And that movie is probably closer to many politicians private lives than we care to know!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

35. Politely asking to keep the noise down in an intimate environment is not "irritated "

This is irritated:

[ehrnst]

70. The video of Sanders seems to concern you greatly.

I would have thought you would have shrugged it off, being as confident as you say you are about him.

It's not like he has a warm, personable brand to polish - he's far more known for expressing the anger of his supporters about things. This isn't going to put off any of his supporters. He's often called "your grumpy socialist grandpa."

[Cha]

112. SF restaurant owner says Bernie Sanders was 'cranky,' rude to staff

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=255755

[Act_of_Reparation]

45. Understandable.

Crying babies are irritating.

I know you think they're not. But they are.

[mcar]

46. Again, the baby wasn't crying

Watch the vid. One screech, just one.

Had the baby been wailing, I would totally agree that he/she should be taken out of the room. But one squawk? Sanders response was ridiculous.

[ehrnst]

71. I'm not surprised. He's often stated that he dislikes "being interrupted."

I guess that includes a squawk from an infant.

Or staff at a restaurant doing their jobs.

Or union employees speaking to the press.

[mcar]

78. Yep

[Cha]

177. omg!

Talk about overreaction!

[betsuni]

180. It was one screech!

For most people giving a speech they probably wouldn't even notice because crowds make noise.

[Otto Lidenbrock]

50. Didn't seem irritated to me

Said it in a soft tone. Whether he ought to have said it is up to opinion but the headline is hyperbole.

[Eric J in MN]

152. Bingo. NT

NT

[Cha]

183. He did to me.. it was his tone and the waving

of his fingers..

This is how a statesman handles "a crying baby.."

When a baby cries during a speech, this is the response that I expect from a statesman...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287266844

[liberal N proud]

53. Does BS have a dog?

[roody]

80. I hope not. He's never home.

[liberal N proud]

105. Or no dog would live with him

[LAS14]

56. Ya know, when a baby is crying in a way to be heard as loud...

... as the speaker at an event, I think the caretaker should walk away with the baby. It's not just Bernie who was being <senior moment... can't think of the word.... 'harmed' is to strong 'irritated' doesn't convery the fact that there's a real problem... you want to hear the speaker, not the baby.> When parents don't take a crying baby out of a venue like that I want the speaker to help out.

[mcar]

83. Per the vid, the baby screeched. Once

Do you think every single loud noise (like a loud sneeze, for example) necessitates the person's removal?

[LAS14]

84. As the narrator said, "this one kept fussing." It's obvious the video doesn't...

... capture the entire event.

[ehrnst]

89. Crying? I didn't see that on the video.

I guess those with children who want to meet with him and hear him aren't really a priority.

I imagine Hillary could have made that "irritation" into an opportunity to talk about women with young children participating fully in society, and how society can support them in that... and would have expressed gratitude that the parent came.

[LAS14]

97. The baby wasn't visible on the video. It was noisy. Granted, other...

... candidates could have handled it more gracefully, but when was Sanders known for his grace?

[BannonsLiver]

57. This is disqualifying.

[Kurt V.]

59. Like the saying goes: if you're not angry you're not paying attention.

[ehrnst]

73. Well, Bernie has the angry part down. (nt)

[jewel44]

60. Crying baby irritates Bernie Sanders.

Growing up in the 40's, 50's and 60's it was a show of respect to immediately leave a gathering if our babies became discontent. This was not only polite to those at the gathering it was most likely a need for the infant to be consoled. I suppose the memo has been lost over the years yet for most of us whether in church, a wedding, theater or rally still find it appropriate.

[ehrnst]

69. There is a reason politicians kiss babies. (nt)

[Eliot Rosewater]

148. Yeah, baby's fault, uh huh

SIGH

[Cha]

160. And.. it was the way he

did it.. his tone and waving away with his fingers.

[TreasonousBastard]

168. You got it-- "How dare this kid dare to make a sound when I'm talking. Whatever it is...

I'm talking about is far more important than some hungry baby. It's all about me, me, me."

I don't have kids and can be as pissed as anyone else when some kid is acting up in the supermarket line. But, I have learned over the years that that mother, and occasionally father, is dealing with this kid 24/7 and will still be dealing with it long after I leave. My small inconvenience is meaningless and says more about me than about the family of the screamer. Often times some of us have sympathized with an embarrassed parent and tried to help calm the kid down.

I have no problem with bringing babies and small kids to most political events. Sure, it would be proper to get them out of there if they act up too much, but people are always talking about the family as the basis of our society, so what is so wrong about bringing the whole family?

OK, don't bring the kids to the opera, but this wasn't an opera.

This was a curmudgeon who thinks far too highly of himself. I watched the clip of Obama with the crying kid and was in awe. And Harris' connection to kids is just what we need in the White House again. It's not just kids-- that's just the most striking view of a humanity that's needed in politics today.

[Cha]

171. Prescisely, TB!

I have no problem with bringing babies and small kids to most political events. Sure, it would be proper to get them out of there if they act up too much, but people are always talking about the family as the basis of our society, so what is so wrong about bringing the whole family?

My son and his wife have a baby who's one year old.. and I am refreshed first hand how much a baby needs to be with their mother when they're so young. They get hungry and need to be nursed for one important thing. No idea what was the case with the baby at the Sanders' event but he was rude and showed no empathy to the parents or crying baby.

Here's Biden in 2012 reacting to crying baby..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287266844

[mcar]

198. This!

My small inconvenience is meaningless and says more about me than about the family of the screamer.

[NurseJackie]

243. Yes... we need some HUMANITY and COMPASSION in our next POTUS.

I could never support a candidate who cannot demonstrate those two qualities.

[gopiscrap]

199. welcome to DU

[jalan48]

64. Good thing Bernie isn't running for national day care director.

[ehrnst]

72. Or restaurant manager. Or president of a union. (nt)

[jalan48]

74. Yep-leave those jobs to someone else.

[ehrnst]

77. MOST definitely....especially union president... (nt)

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[Cha]

195. omg.

smh

[ehrnst]

65. He could have made this into a wonderful moment, and shown some warmth.

But that wasn't something that occured to him.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

67. Maybe you can't tell the difference between answering a question at an intimate town hall...

... and working the rope line. I mean the CNN dingbat even shows Bernie interacting with kids on a rope line while not even shushing them. Not sure why this is a difficult concept.

Interrupting his answer to a question would be rude to the audience, the questioner and the sign language interpreter behind Bernie.

Does that answer your concerns?

[ehrnst]

68. Concerns?

It appears you have far more concerns about my post...

[MrsCoffee]

144. Lol. That eyeroll was ridiculous.

If he can't handle a little crying from a baby, how the hell is he gonna handle the stress of being president?

I'm surprised he didn't yell get off of my lawn!

Disqualifying.

[mcar]

119. That one always makes me smile!

[ehrnst]

90. I think Hillary would have turned that "irritation" into an opportunity to talk about women with

young children participating fully in society, and how society can support them in that...right there and then, even, and would have expressed gratitude that the parent came.

[mcar]

111. Yes, she would have

I believe that Harris, Warren, and Klobuchar would do the same, as well as some of the male candidates.

It's just basic human compassion.

[Gothmog]

165. I agree with you on this

Hillary was great.

[Eliot Rosewater]

203. But she couldnt be prez, remember, she gave ONE speech to Wall street

[betsuni]

209. I'm still amazed people are so stupid.

[Cha]

231. That would be the best thing

to do! Use it as an opportunity like Biden did..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287266844

[NYMinute]

95. It is a very common opinion of a lot of people. nt

[emmaverybo]

99. He's not my preferred, but his momentary irritation with a crying baby whose mom he issued a

slight instruction to wouldn’t make or break the case for a Bernie presidency.

We need to distinguish between global and peripheral issues.

[lunamagica]

107. K&R for visibility

[BlueMississippi]

108. His baseline irritability is so high already

probably even a strong breeze would make it worse

[ehrnst]

116. I agree. (nt)

[SunSeeker]

122. LOL

[MrsCoffee]

131. Lol.

[Tarheel_Dem]

140. K&R

[JackInGreen]

141. "Candidate grows annoyed with uncontrolled child"

Jeeeez, the depths that "My" party can sink to

[betsuni]

147. Bernie Sanders irritates crying baby.

[Blue_true]

164. His angry sounding voice likely upset the baby. nt

[Cha]

189. lol!

Leave it to you to get to the heart of the matter!

[betsuni]

190. The baby was probably crying because it's an establishment baby.

A centrist Third Way baby who will stop at nothing to thwart Bernie's progressive agenda. The cat is out of the bag.

[Cha]

191. And, just maybe that baby

was bored to tears?!

[betsuni]

192. You know, when I watched Bernie on The View today, at first I was sure it was a re-run

because it was so similar to his last appearance there. It's the same thing all the time. The baby knows.

[Cha]

194. Blessed are the babies

and children

[elleng]

151. Just keep it up,

give the repugs all the fodder they want.

[ReformedGOPer]

159. I lost any and all support for him when he refused to concede in 2016. To me Bernie comes off as a

spoiled baby who can't admit he lost, without blaming everyone else for the loss.

In contrast, look at Hillary. The election WAS stolen from her. If anyone had a right to whine about the unfairness of the election, it was her. She accepted the defeat with grace and dignity.

[questionseverything]

227. hopefully the next time our nominee will demand the votes be counted

and not graciously accept the stolen election

[ehrnst]

237. I didn't know that there was a higher court to appeal to than SCOTUS...

Once SCOTUS rules on something, such as that the official count stands, demanding that they take it back is pretty silly. One can either accept a SCOTUS ruling, or make an idiot out of oneself trying to convince people that there's another court that they can appeal that to get it overturned.

Gore was a lawyer, so he sorta knows about these things with SCOTUS.



FYI - There were more recounts going on, they would just not be allowed to be entered into the official as per SCOTUS. So he didn't need to "demand" a recount. He just didn't waste time or lie to people that a recount would change the SCOTUS ruling.

I hope that clears things up for you.

[questionseverything]

238. the election we were referring to was 2016 and those votes being counted not gore but

as long as you bring it up...the mistake gore made was for not asking for the entire state of florida to be hand counted, he only asked for certain counties to be hand counted and the sc ruled that would mean they were treated differently

[ehrnst]

241. Um... that's what Gore v Bush was about.

Getting an accurate recount.

SCOTUS ruled the count stood as it was.

You're welcome.

[myohmy2]

166. you've got to be kidding...

...this is all they have on Bernie?

...this is Bernie's 'big crime'?

...I thought it was more humorous than anything...

...if this is all they can find to hammer Bernie with, he's well on his way to the White House...

...boo hoo...

...

[ecstatic]

167. SMH. Yesterday on The View, he was pretty nasty with Whoopi too...

Of course, she had to put him in his place a couple of times until he got his tone under control. This is why Bernie will not be the nominee. He's too fcking rude and grumpy! 😾

[Cha]

172. Oh wow! Could you

please tell us what it was about, ecstatic?

Mahalo oh and Whoopi!

[betsuni]

179. Bernie was saying the same things he always says and Whoopi was trying

to ask how he was going to do it but she didn't come out and say that, for some reason. Bernie said, I've been talking about this for years! That's the point, it's just talk. Bernie went into the same routine of how he single-handedly championed universal health care, higher minimum wage, free college. Inslee has influenced other candidates on climate change but that's because he's DONE it.

He goes on about his plans and promises and Whoopi says "Everybody says that!"

Then McCain reads some Trump Tweets about rigged primaries and Bernie says something about how before the first Iowa caucus vote in 2016, Hillary had 500 superdelegates. Whatever that means. The Mueller report reported Russian operatives bought social media advertisements alleging that Hillary committed voter fraud in the Iowa caucuses, so I guess that's where Bernie got the idea.

[Cha]

181. Thanks, betsuni! Go Whoopi!

And, it was his tone?

"Russian operatives.." oh yeah they're always reliable.

[betsuni]

186. His tone was the same as usual, in my opinion.

After Whoopi asks him if he'll change that big corporations don't pay taxes and he says "Of course I'll change it!" was the only thing that struck me as too irritable. She clearly doesn't like him.

Joy and Sunny went right along with the claim that Bernie's the only one who thinks health care is a human right, agreed that (for us, usual Democratic issues) were "radical" before Bernie. Ugh. But none of them are actual political pundits (except McCain and that doesn't count because too stupid) and don't actually know that much about politics. They should read DU.

[Cha]

187. That's a Big Bunch of Baloney

that BS is the only one who thinks Health Care is a Human Right.. I've seen his Stein voter staff on twitter accusing others of the same thing.. thanks Joy & Sunny for buying it .

Whoopi's smartness! Thank you, betsuni!

[questionseverything]

204. you know whoppie is very right wing about paying taxes right?

Idk if she identifies as being repub but she certainly shares some of their views

is natural that she wouldn't like Bernie's ideas since he openly wants to tax the rich

[betsuni]

210. For someone who claims to know what she thinks, you can't spell her name correctly?

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All Democrats want to tax the rich. Duh.

On Friday's show, Whoopi strongly defended Bernie when the topic was the baby and also his comment about population control. Insinuating that she's a Republican: why? Does she threaten you somehow by having her own opinions?

[questionseverything]

228. i dont watch much tv but i am glad she thinks woman should be allowed to control their own bodies

she rants against paying taxes

<shrugs>

[Cha]

206. And, again..

:Whoopi!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

173. You mean where Whoopi asked Bernie if he was in favor of taxing Amazon? And she was serious?

She should be ashamed of herself. But she won’t be. And I thought McCain was the designated dummy.

[ecstatic]

174. She's probably not a Berner who knows his platform but even if she was,

it's possible that some viewers were seeing Bernie for the first time and they needed to learn about his positions. The only way to introduce yourself properly to the voting public is to answer questions. All he had to do was answer respectfully instead of yelling.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

176. You must have watched a different interview.

[Cha]

182. Wow.. unbelievable!

[NurseJackie]

213. It was rude. I'm tired of rude politicians.

[Cha]

215. He had one job.

[NurseJackie]

217. When someone becomes POTUS they have multiple jobs and must wear many hats...

When someone becomes POTUS they have multiple jobs and must wear many hats... they have to be able to think on their feet... they need to be willing to listen to others and show respect for other leaders and adversaries. I can tell you right now that there is NO FOREIGN LEADER who will tolerate having anyone impatiently snap at them, or wag a finger in their face. That's just rude and boorish.

[ehrnst]

218. Good thing she didn't ask him if he makes money selling books on Amazon.(nt)

[Hassin Bin Sober]

175. Yeah, that didn't happen. At all. I just watched the whole video.

Whoopi was surprised Bernie wants to tax large corporations. That’s it.

The only testy part was McCain trying to stir shit with the DNC. Spoiler: it didn’t work.

[Cha]

178. Hi Quackers! Here's a clip of a statesman

reacting to a crying baby at one of his campaign speeches..

When a baby cries during a speech, this is the response that I expect from a statesman...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287266844

[Tiggeroshii]

188. Another day, another Bernie bashing thread.

[NurseJackie]

214. Nobody is doing that.

[Tiggeroshii]

220. All day every day. It's whats cool :)

[NurseJackie]

221. Nobody is bashing Bernie.

[Tiggeroshii]

222. Disagreed.

[Tiggeroshii]

223. From the cambridge dictionary:

bash verb (CRITICIZE)
[ T ] to criticize someone severely:

He kept bashing local government officials.


The OP stated "A few weeks ago, I mentioned how Bernie always seems angry and shouting during the debates"

That is a generalistic statement conveying severe displeasure and criticism towards the candidate, aka: "bashing," according to most definitions of the term.

[NurseJackie]

224. Aw.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

193. Bernie Eats Baby.

Prove he didn't.

[President Sauron]

216. impatience may be one of his flaws

but I think his overall message seems to have good intent. I'm not sure who will be the best candidate for the presidency, but they all have their own flaws. I think Bernie is the most vocal and outspoken of all the candidates, and it puts an X on him, easier to identify his flaws than say mayor pete, or klobachar. I know its important to study the temperaments of potentials potus', but in the end, he is a human being, and he is really coming from a place of urgency. I think that's what it often is with him; a sense of urgency. he gets excited, and in the moment about what he's talking about. I know I'm not running for pres, but I get like this myself. In the moment, and full of passion, and when a distraction breaks my train of thought, my patience wears thin. M

[d_b]

226. hells yeah

i can't stand the little shits either. have another $400, Bern.

[Lucid Dreamer]

230. Bernie, just say something like this...

"If all the rest of you get as enthusiastic about me as that child, I'll have a real shot a beating trump!"

He needs to prepare for such incidents. I'd hire a professional comedian to get some advice about hecklers and other disruptions. Handling those gracefully and humorously can go a long way.

[NCLefty]

235. RIP that boy that wanted to hug Trump. Eek. :p

And I like Jeanne Moos. She's reliably amusing.

[ehrnst]

239. Seems interesting in light of Bernie Sanders own child at a political meeting...

Sanders’ life in electoral politics started on Oct. 23, 1971, in Plainfield, Vermont, in the library of Goddard College, a campus that doubled as a lefty hot spot, when the nascent anti-war Liberty Union Party was looking for someone to run for U.S. Senate. Sanders was barely 30 years old. He had thick-rimmed glasses and dark, curly hair, and his toddler son, Levi (pronounced LEH-vee), was seated in his lap. Sanders raised his hand.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/bernie-sanders-vermont-119927