Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumCrying baby irritates Bernie Sanders.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/09/04/crying-baby-bernie-sanders-moos-pkg-vpx.cnnA few weeks ago, I mentioned how Bernie always seems angry and shouting during the debates. I dont think I like him at all now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I assure you that you're not alone in that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Merlot
(9,696 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I just think the whole "crying baby" thing is very revealing when it comes to letting voters know how a candidate will react to something that may be annoying, or unplanned, or distracting. Does he (or she) show empathy and compassion for the parent... who knows full well that their crying infant is a distraction... the parent doesn't need to be told... the parent doesn't need to be called-out or publicly humiliated. What good purpose does that serve?
Voters look for things like that and they cue-in on whether a candidate reveals that he (or she) is short-tempered and easily irritated. It lets voters know in advance if a candidate can adapt, make changes, and shift-gears in a way that's respectful to everyone. It's a clue to voters about how that candidate would react if he (or she) were to be the party's nominee. They imagine him (or her) in the Oval Office and try to decide if that's they type of person they'd be proud to call Mister or Madam President.
All I'm trying to say is that the winning candidate, the one who is chosen as our party's nominee, will be someone who has demonstrated that he (or she) is capable of showing kindness and empathy and patience... and someone who is flexible and understanding.
That's one of the things that I look for. I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ecstatic
(32,641 posts)how the hell will you handle all the issues that presidents face on a daily basis?! Will you be screaming at all the staff and cursing out reporters (like trump?)?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,576 posts)and if I were I'd keep my annoyance to myself. In fact, I almost always keep my annoyance to myself because babies cry and there's not much that can be done about it. If I do get annoyed it's because a parent doesn't take the crying baby out of the concert hall, church, etc., where it's annoying people. But someone who's running for president will just have to suck it up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)you dont see an issue with it?
You dont see a window into the man here?
I have committed to support him if he is the D nominee even though he is NOT a D, but...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)lol
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,239 posts)that one baby on stage ? he looks like he is being forced to touch any kids and hates it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,890 posts)handle the situation with that crying baby at all well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)Babies cry.. that's what they do.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)neither supports legalization at the federal level
to me that is way worse than how Bernie reacted to a cranky child
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,304 posts)as totally serious.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oldsoftie
(12,486 posts)I mean, i'm no Sanders fan; he's unelectable, his policies are not nearly funded, etc.
But to hit him for being irritated by a crying baby? Who HASNT been at one time?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Quackers
(2,256 posts)Its not just about getting annoyed over a crying baby. Its a pattern that keeps popping up with Sanders personality. Hes quick to anger, hes easily annoyed, and he tries to shout down anyone who disagrees with him. You really dont see how this is relevant to his electability?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,486 posts)But stick to policy and electability. It just seems as weak as saying "Biden is old" posts
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Quackers
(2,256 posts)Someone saying that a candidate is too old is not the same as criticizing Bernies demeanor. Age is out of our control. How we act is not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,486 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)in individuals of any age wouldn't matter to me. As you say, policy is what matters, and he's not running to be some unfortunate's nanny.
Since I do not and actually hope Sanders will be too minor a presence to disrupt the convention (should whatever delegates he manages to have once again be inclined of course), I'm perfectly fine with people discussing his crankiness and boorishness. A lot.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It pleases me to see how many people here have higher expectations, standards and demands of the candidates who seek our party's nomination.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)Exactly!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)The person I support for POTUS will be someone who knows how to act in public... who knows how to treat people with kindness and understanding and sympathy... who understands that when dealing with some of life's unexpected and irritating moments, the BEST thing you can do is smile and accept it with grace and humility. I want a POTUS who has the demeanor and temperament to NOT lose his (or her) temper and wag his (or her) finger at someone.
These things are important.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,128 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nini
(16,672 posts)Well said.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lulu KC
(2,560 posts)It seems like he is beloved by his fans when he is the epitome of a grumpy old man. No matter what the question, he sounds angry. I don't think this will hurt him much.
He's not my guy, but I actually kind of like the persona.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I pretty much agree with his politics for the most part, but he rubs me the wrong way. He is arrogant and intolerant in a number of ways.
I related a story about him years ago and got attacked. Nobody believed me, and even I voted for Bernie in the last Dem primary. Right after I graduated from college I moved to Burlington, VT for a little less than a year and waitressed on Church Street. He and some of colleagues came into my restaurant for lunch and he paid the bill.
He left me a measly 10% tip and barely acknowledged my existence during the entire meal. And no, there was no problem with the service. I was attentive, the food came out on time, I was polite, etc.
He was just a cheapskate and for all he talks about people needing a living wage, apparently he didn't seem to think that young women were part of that group that he is so passionate about fighting for. I think he is a hypocrite. I really have a lot of issues with him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mopinko
(69,982 posts)not smart.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)they are supposed to love babies.
We usually say babies know - babies love Democrats and they cry when Republicans hold them.
Obama was the ultimate baby-whisperer.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)with waving the fingers and a rude attitude.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Beringia
(4,316 posts)And here is his wife, Jane O'Meara: Early in her career, Sanders worked in the Juvenile Division of the Burlington Police Department, and then as a community organizer with the King Street Area Youth Center, and for VISTA (Volunteers in Service to America), a job that helped her pay off her student loans.[1]
From 1981 to 1991, Sanders served as founding Director of the Mayor's Youth Office and Department Head in the City of Burlington. She was also active in K-12 education, elected as a School Board Commissioner, and was a founding member of the Women's Council & the Film Commission. In 1991, her husband, Bernie Sanders, was elected to the U.S. Congress. From 1991 to 1995, she worked in his office on a volunteer basis
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mcar
(42,278 posts)with Bernie telling a baby to pipe down?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Quackers
(2,256 posts)He slipped up in public.......maybe hes like that in private?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)he's irritated by them, it's because he's "not being superficial?"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)He "lost a vote" from the owner of John's Grill.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,270 posts)guardians to quiet the baby.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,270 posts)were entirely different.
Bernie was concentrating on answering a young man's question regarding insulin, if I remember correctly, (I could be wrong on that,) in a town hall.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,270 posts)President Obama wasn't trying to answer a serious question in a town hall.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,634 posts)President Obama catches a pregnant woman who almost fainted during his speech on Healthcare.gov in the Rose Garden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,270 posts)a crying baby at a town hall.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,634 posts)That healthcare.gov is a pretty important topic. He took the time to not only catch her but call for a doctor as well.
How a politician acts and reacts is important.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,270 posts)the baby wasn't fainting.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
She was behind him not next to him as he was speaking at the podium in the Rose Garden about Healthcare.gov. I never said the baby was fainting, not sure a baby could do that in utero. Then again I have never been pregnant.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)been waving his fingers in the baby's direction for him/her to .. ".. keep that down a bit..".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,270 posts)to quiet (or the possible inference to remove the crying baby) while he was trying to focus on answering a serious question during a town hall.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(296,774 posts)would have..
been waving his fingers in the baby's direction for him/her to .. ".. keep that down a bit..".
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=266783
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)I know if I am talking in that situation I wont insinuate what I have to say is more important than anything.
Jesus FUCKING christ I want this primary OVER
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,884 posts)He was a truly great POTUS
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,884 posts)I miss having a real POTUS
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,634 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)"We have a baby we'd like you to meet"!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I met him once, and did not come away feeling warm and fuzzy that is for sure. He is not a happy person.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,634 posts)Think about it. He could have been barfed upon and yet here he is having the time of his life.
Way cool~
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)hear that in his tone.. and waving of the fingers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(102,105 posts)dog-lover, but even my tolerance can be overwhelmed by constant barking. Human nature to react to this kind of thing, I think, especially when we are focused on trying to convey an important message.
His reaction surely won't win him any kudos, but...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ohiogal
(31,895 posts)I thought this might be about how Trump irritates Bernie ......
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jirel
(2,013 posts)Not everyone likes hecklers, noise, or other disruptions. Its reasonable to expect a parent to remove a screaming infant causing a ruckus, quiet it, and return. Babygate deserves as much attention as But her emails!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mcar
(42,278 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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mcar
(42,278 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HelpImSurrounded
(441 posts)Candidates have always been evaluated based on their families. Not being married and/or not having children is suspicious to some people. A woman running for president who does not have children will be heavily criticized for it. Yes, it's entirely misogynist but it will happen.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(144,884 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LincolnRossiter
(560 posts)NT
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,884 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,486 posts)You have racism, i guess you could have "childism"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,278 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,278 posts)Only a sexist, misogynistic asshole would think that's an issue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
irisblue
(32,916 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,884 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,278 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,884 posts)She is amazing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,278 posts)Reminds me of how President Obama is with children.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,884 posts)I agree. Harris reminds me of President Obama in the way she interacts with young women
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... she's always proved to be quite capable. Fact of the matter is this: Women are not chattel to do as they are told... to be ordered about... to be baby-making-machines. It reveals much about ANYONE who would suggest (whether cleverly veiled, or directly) that a woman's reproductive decisions make her less worthy or less qualified. And do we know that it's a conscious decision and not related to anything medical?
All I'm trying to say is: "who the fuck cares??" and if someone does care (or pretends to care) my question then would be "why??" I think it's clear to everyone that such concerns reflect poorly upon that person... not on Senator Harris.
This whole subthread is just beyond absurd.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,634 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)me no.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It was somewhere in this thread, but now very difficult to see.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)has children.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,278 posts)That if Sen. Gillibrand was still in and in the top 4, "some" would be saying she couldn't be president because she has young children.
Women are never good enough, it seems.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,189 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Really? You know this?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mcar
(42,278 posts)I feel confident in saying this, yes.
Please show me where any other candidate told parents to quiet a child down during their speeches.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)When a baby cries during a speech, this is the response that I expect from a statesman...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287266844
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I'm sure the parent already felt self-conscious enough... the attention had already been focused on the parent and the baby... but Biden saw an opportunity to smile at life's unexpected (and unavoidable) moments... and to send a positive message.
I must say, I'm so SICK AND TIRED of self-absorbed politicians to take themselves too fucking seriously, who are quick to anger... it's just not the type of demeanor and temperament that I can support... no matter who he (or she) is.
All I'm saying is it doesn't serve any good purpose for any politician to do or say things that are intended to call-out or humiliate people. It's just rude.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WA-03 Democrat
(3,037 posts)And hes got the mic. Let him say what he wants. I disagree with some of his positions but this is simply what it is. I dont think Bernie hates kids.
We have a President who without a doubt hates children and has implemented a policy of separation and putting them in cages. Some have died.
Compare and contrast!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WA-03 Democrat
(3,037 posts)He is showing us who he is. Lets pick the best and bring the biggest Blue Wave ever. I love Joe. I hope it is Joe. I think he is the leader perfect at this time. Hes a caring man who loves the our country and will embrace our allies and kick ass on foreign policy. I want an experienced sane person. No more rookies. Any of our candidates are better by many miles.
I dont like it when the Sanders supporters deride Joe but that is there choice.
Telling a baby to clam it vs. killing them in cages. Easy choice for a normal human.
Vote Straight Blue No Matter Who!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 5, 2019, 11:29 PM - Edit history (1)
didn't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Meadowoak
(5,534 posts)Irritating than a screaming/crying baby. Be considerate of others and leave the kids at home.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,304 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pandr32
(11,548 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,278 posts)Should they not be allowed to be part of the political process? Some babies rely on mom for sustenance. Should those mothers not be allowed to be part of the process?
Who else shouldn't be allowed? People in wheelchairs? Sometimes, they create a stir if they are trying to find a place where they can see? The developmentally disabled? Sometimes they make noise.
How about those with allergies? I sneeze a lot when I'm around people who wear perfume. Should I be blackballed from these events? I'm a very loud sneezer.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Meadowoak
(5,534 posts)To a screaming child. I'm respectful of others and would never bring a child to one of these events. I find it rude!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mcar
(42,278 posts)Baby made one noise - one.
Had the child been screaming, the parent/guardian should have taken her/him out. This one was screech, that's all.
So you do think that parents should be deprived of the political process. Nice.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Meadowoak
(5,534 posts)Arrangements for someone to watch their child for an hour.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mcar
(42,278 posts)I volunteered at several HRC rallies in 2016. They were put together with only a few days' notice.
Regardless, some parents cannot afford child care, even for one hour. Why do you think they should be deprived of participating in the process? Perhaps this parent really wanted to see and hear Sen. Sanders. Why is that wrong?
For heaven's sake, Bernie should be able to handle a little noise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Meadowoak
(5,534 posts)Someone brings a screaming baby and sits next to me. I'm hearing impaired and it's difficult enough to hear anyway. The baby doesn't gain anything from attending a political event.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)The child wasn't screaming and crying.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Meadowoak
(5,534 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Again, should they not be able to participate, even knowing that their baby would not be fussy?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,278 posts)Nice try.
The parent gains something from attending the political event and we, as a society, gain something from having younger voters participate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)Try a little tolerance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Shell_Seas
(3,328 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,486 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,486 posts)And that movie is probably closer to many politicians private lives than we care to know!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,308 posts)This is irritated:
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I would have thought you would have shrugged it off, being as confident as you say you are about him.
It's not like he has a warm, personable brand to polish - he's far more known for expressing the anger of his supporters about things. This isn't going to put off any of his supporters. He's often called "your grumpy socialist grandpa."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Crying babies are irritating.
I know you think they're not. But they are.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mcar
(42,278 posts)Watch the vid. One screech, just one.
Had the baby been wailing, I would totally agree that he/she should be taken out of the room. But one squawk? Sanders response was ridiculous.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I guess that includes a squawk from an infant.
Or staff at a restaurant doing their jobs.
Or union employees speaking to the press.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Talk about overreaction!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,367 posts)For most people giving a speech they probably wouldn't even notice because crowds make noise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Otto Lidenbrock
(581 posts)Said it in a soft tone. Whether he ought to have said it is up to opinion but the headline is hyperbole.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(296,774 posts)of his fingers..
This is how a statesman handles "a crying baby.."
When a baby cries during a speech, this is the response that I expect from a statesman...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287266844
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
roody
(10,849 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LAS14
(13,769 posts)... as the speaker at an event, I think the caretaker should walk away with the baby. It's not just Bernie who was being <senior moment... can't think of the word.... 'harmed' is to strong 'irritated' doesn't convery the fact that there's a real problem... you want to hear the speaker, not the baby.> When parents don't take a crying baby out of a venue like that I want the speaker to help out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,278 posts)Do you think every single loud noise (like a loud sneeze, for example) necessitates the person's removal?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LAS14
(13,769 posts)... capture the entire event.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I guess those with children who want to meet with him and hear him aren't really a priority.
I imagine Hillary could have made that "irritation" into an opportunity to talk about women with young children participating fully in society, and how society can support them in that... and would have expressed gratitude that the parent came.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LAS14
(13,769 posts)... candidates could have handled it more gracefully, but when was Sanders known for his grace?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,288 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jewel44
(1 post)Growing up in the 40's, 50's and 60's it was a show of respect to immediately leave a gathering if our babies became discontent. This was not only polite to those at the gathering it was most likely a need for the infant to be consoled. I suppose the memo has been lost over the years yet for most of us whether in church, a wedding, theater or rally still find it appropriate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)SIGH
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)did it.. his tone and waving away with his fingers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)I'm talking about is far more important than some hungry baby. It's all about me, me, me."
I don't have kids and can be as pissed as anyone else when some kid is acting up in the supermarket line. But, I have learned over the years that that mother, and occasionally father, is dealing with this kid 24/7 and will still be dealing with it long after I leave. My small inconvenience is meaningless and says more about me than about the family of the screamer. Often times some of us have sympathized with an embarrassed parent and tried to help calm the kid down.
I have no problem with bringing babies and small kids to most political events. Sure, it would be proper to get them out of there if they act up too much, but people are always talking about the family as the basis of our society, so what is so wrong about bringing the whole family?
OK, don't bring the kids to the opera, but this wasn't an opera.
This was a curmudgeon who thinks far too highly of himself. I watched the clip of Obama with the crying kid and was in awe. And Harris' connection to kids is just what we need in the White House again. It's not just kids-- that's just the most striking view of a humanity that's needed in politics today.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)My son and his wife have a baby who's one year old.. and I am refreshed first hand how much a baby needs to be with their mother when they're so young. They get hungry and need to be nursed for one important thing. No idea what was the case with the baby at the Sanders' event but he was rude and showed no empathy to the parents or crying baby.
Here's Biden in 2012 reacting to crying baby..
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287266844
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,278 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I could never support a candidate who cannot demonstrate those two qualities.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gopiscrap
(23,725 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,838 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,838 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 5, 2019, 02:21 PM - Edit history (1)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)But that wasn't something that occured to him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,308 posts)... and working the rope line. I mean the CNN dingbat even shows Bernie interacting with kids on a rope line while not even shushing them. Not sure why this is a difficult concept.
Interrupting his answer to a question would be rude to the audience, the questioner and the sign language interpreter behind Bernie.
Does that answer your concerns?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)It appears you have far more concerns about my post...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)If he can't handle a little crying from a baby, how the hell is he gonna handle the stress of being president?
I'm surprised he didn't yell get off of my lawn!
Disqualifying.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,278 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)young children participating fully in society, and how society can support them in that...right there and then, even, and would have expressed gratitude that the parent came.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,278 posts)I believe that Harris, Warren, and Klobuchar would do the same, as well as some of the male candidates.
It's just basic human compassion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,884 posts)Hillary was great.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,367 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)to do! Use it as an opportunity like Biden did..
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287266844
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)slight instruction to wouldnt make or break the case for a Bernie presidency.
We need to distinguish between global and peripheral issues.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)probably even a strong breeze would make it worse
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SunSeeker
(51,504 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,220 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)Jeeeez, the depths that "My" party can sink to
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,367 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Leave it to you to get to the heart of the matter!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,367 posts)A centrist Third Way baby who will stop at nothing to thwart Bernie's progressive agenda. The cat is out of the bag.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)was bored to tears?!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,367 posts)because it was so similar to his last appearance there. It's the same thing all the time. The baby knows.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)and children
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
elleng
(130,712 posts)give the repugs all the fodder they want.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ReformedGOPer
(478 posts)spoiled baby who can't admit he lost, without blaming everyone else for the loss.
In contrast, look at Hillary. The election WAS stolen from her. If anyone had a right to whine about the unfairness of the election, it was her. She accepted the defeat with grace and dignity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)and not graciously accept the stolen election
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Once SCOTUS rules on something, such as that the official count stands, demanding that they take it back is pretty silly. One can either accept a SCOTUS ruling, or make an idiot out of oneself trying to convince people that there's another court that they can appeal that to get it overturned.
Gore was a lawyer, so he sorta knows about these things with SCOTUS.
FYI - There were more recounts going on, they would just not be allowed to be entered into the official as per SCOTUS. So he didn't need to "demand" a recount. He just didn't waste time or lie to people that a recount would change the SCOTUS ruling.
I hope that clears things up for you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)as long as you bring it up...the mistake gore made was for not asking for the entire state of florida to be hand counted, he only asked for certain counties to be hand counted and the sc ruled that would mean they were treated differently
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Getting an accurate recount.
SCOTUS ruled the count stood as it was.
You're welcome.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,137 posts)...this is all they have on Bernie?
...this is Bernie's 'big crime'?
...I thought it was more humorous than anything...
...if this is all they can find to hammer Bernie with, he's well on his way to the White House...
...boo hoo...
...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ecstatic
(32,641 posts)Of course, she had to put him in his place a couple of times until he got his tone under control. This is why Bernie will not be the nominee. He's too fcking rude and grumpy! 😾
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)please tell us what it was about, ecstatic?
Mahalo oh and Whoopi!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,367 posts)to ask how he was going to do it but she didn't come out and say that, for some reason. Bernie said, I've been talking about this for years! That's the point, it's just talk. Bernie went into the same routine of how he single-handedly championed universal health care, higher minimum wage, free college. Inslee has influenced other candidates on climate change but that's because he's DONE it.
He goes on about his plans and promises and Whoopi says "Everybody says that!"
Then McCain reads some Trump Tweets about rigged primaries and Bernie says something about how before the first Iowa caucus vote in 2016, Hillary had 500 superdelegates. Whatever that means. The Mueller report reported Russian operatives bought social media advertisements alleging that Hillary committed voter fraud in the Iowa caucuses, so I guess that's where Bernie got the idea.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)And, it was his tone?
"Russian operatives.." oh yeah they're always reliable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,367 posts)After Whoopi asks him if he'll change that big corporations don't pay taxes and he says "Of course I'll change it!" was the only thing that struck me as too irritable. She clearly doesn't like him.
Joy and Sunny went right along with the claim that Bernie's the only one who thinks health care is a human right, agreed that (for us, usual Democratic issues) were "radical" before Bernie. Ugh. But none of them are actual political pundits (except McCain and that doesn't count because too stupid) and don't actually know that much about politics. They should read DU.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)that BS is the only one who thinks Health Care is a Human Right.. I've seen his Stein voter staff on twitter accusing others of the same thing.. thanks Joy & Sunny for buying it .
Whoopi's smartness! Thank you, betsuni!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)Idk if she identifies as being repub but she certainly shares some of their views
is natural that she wouldn't like Bernie's ideas since he openly wants to tax the rich
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,367 posts)Last edited Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:08 PM - Edit history (1)
All Democrats want to tax the rich. Duh.
On Friday's show, Whoopi strongly defended Bernie when the topic was the baby and also his comment about population control. Insinuating that she's a Republican: why? Does she threaten you somehow by having her own opinions?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)she rants against paying taxes
<shrugs>
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(296,774 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,308 posts)She should be ashamed of herself. But she wont be. And I thought McCain was the designated dummy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ecstatic
(32,641 posts)it's possible that some viewers were seeing Bernie for the first time and they needed to learn about his positions. The only way to introduce yourself properly to the voting public is to answer questions. All he had to do was answer respectfully instead of yelling.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,308 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(296,774 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,774 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)When someone becomes POTUS they have multiple jobs and must wear many hats... they have to be able to think on their feet... they need to be willing to listen to others and show respect for other leaders and adversaries. I can tell you right now that there is NO FOREIGN LEADER who will tolerate having anyone impatiently snap at them, or wag a finger in their face. That's just rude and boorish.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,308 posts)Whoopi was surprised Bernie wants to tax large corporations. Thats it.
The only testy part was McCain trying to stir shit with the DNC. Spoiler: it didnt work.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(296,774 posts)reacting to a crying baby at one of his campaign speeches..
When a baby cries during a speech, this is the response that I expect from a statesman...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287266844
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)bash verb (CRITICIZE)
[ T ] to criticize someone severely:
He kept bashing local government officials.
The OP stated "A few weeks ago, I mentioned how Bernie always seems angry and shouting during the debates"
That is a generalistic statement conveying severe displeasure and criticism towards the candidate, aka: "bashing," according to most definitions of the term.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)Prove he didn't.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
President Sauron
(6 posts)but I think his overall message seems to have good intent. I'm not sure who will be the best candidate for the presidency, but they all have their own flaws. I think Bernie is the most vocal and outspoken of all the candidates, and it puts an X on him, easier to identify his flaws than say mayor pete, or klobachar. I know its important to study the temperaments of potentials potus', but in the end, he is a human being, and he is really coming from a place of urgency. I think that's what it often is with him; a sense of urgency. he gets excited, and in the moment about what he's talking about. I know I'm not running for pres, but I get like this myself. In the moment, and full of passion, and when a distraction breaks my train of thought, my patience wears thin. M
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
d_b
(7,462 posts)i can't stand the little shits either. have another $400, Bern.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lucid Dreamer
(584 posts)"If all the rest of you get as enthusiastic about me as that child, I'll have a real shot a beating trump!"
He needs to prepare for such incidents. I'd hire a professional comedian to get some advice about hecklers and other disruptions. Handling those gracefully and humorously can go a long way.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)And I like Jeanne Moos. She's reliably amusing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/bernie-sanders-vermont-119927
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden