Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(112,920 posts)Because it IS corruption that has always been in the way of serious action.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)The polls are so lop-sided. I don't think she can win the nomination; but she is young and would make a great president in the future.
Actually, if Warren won, as president and appointed Kamala Harris as US Attorney General, all my dreams would come true.
Harris, a brilliant prosecutor, would throw the entire Trump crime syndicate in prison, where they belong!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bigtree
(85,919 posts)...what I'd look at is the way frontrunner Biden's numbers tumbled over the little tiff at the first debate, not that it snapped back, which was entirely predictable.
No one has sealed the deal with voters yet, and it needs to be repeated over and over that these early polls are notoriously wrong. Kamala is still racking up endorsements that I haven't bothered to waste time posting here in NH and IOWA, esp..
Iowa is where the public caught on to the fact that Obama could win, after trailing Hillary by as much as THIRTY points in Dec. 2007. It just doesn't make sense to start writing Kamala Harris into someone's cabinet right now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EarnestPutz
(2,087 posts)....to think that I'm a rabid grammar Nazi. But "get out the way" instead of "get out of the way" just makes me cringe. I know, I know, the English language evolves and changes. But this is right up there with "the lawn needs cut". Just sounds dumb to someone whose grammar school grammar lessons were a few years ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)mostly older ones, though.
Properly known as "African-American Vernacular English" it is every bit as valid as any of the other dialects and forms of speech heard around the country.
I think she was going for some street cred with that choice. Or maybe she was getting emotional and went back to her roots.
Either way, I gots no problem.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EarnestPutz
(2,087 posts)....of the electorate did occur to me. If it was, and she continues to speak in this manner, I hope that it does not backfire on her as sounding uneducated, at least to some older voters like me. Her roots include an Indian mother who had a PhD in endocrinology and a father who was a professor of Economics at Stanford, so if she spoke like this to fit in with her black friends, I can easily imagine her parents correcting her grammar. I may be getting into the realm of "grammar Nazi" now, but I do not want our next president to sound uneducated and further diminish our language.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bigtree
(85,919 posts)...and now she's sounding 'uneducated' and diminishing 'our' language.
The notion that this black woman is speaking a certain way (to a mixed audience, in this case) 'to fit in with her black friends,' is clearly a criticism just reserved for this black woman.
Does Biden speak a certain way to fit in with his white friends? Klobuchar? Buttigieg, or any of the white candidates?
So concerned with grammar, but oblivious to denigrating this black woman for speaking as she likely has all of her life.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EarnestPutz
(2,087 posts)....point as I would be critical of any candidate who spoke in this manner. I've denigrated no one. I have listened to her speak over the last year in a unfailingly concise and correct way and was surprised to hear her in this instance.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bigtree
(85,919 posts)...and it's as offensive as things get around here to have that label applied to this accomplished black woman for dropping one word.
I don't think it changes anything that you say you'd criticize 'any candidate' who did the same. You criticized Kamala Harris in a very specific and offensive manner. That you're just fine with that makes it all the more egregious.
Equating what you believe is proper English with being 'educated' is an archaic notion which will not find much agreement in our increasingly diverse population which has been transforming and homogenizing our nation's vernacular for centuries. So sorry to find you so fixed and mired in a distant, puristic and anglophillic past.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Although as an older voter, I realize doing so further diminishes our language for the sake of my own biases. However, I fully expect you'll rationalize a much more self-validating justification.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bigtree
(85,919 posts)...probably more reflexive than calculated dialect, trying to make a concise point.
I like language that is easily identifiable and relatable, more that I'm concerned with rules of grammar. Most folks would be surprised just how much our vernacular has been sliced and diced from the King's English over the centuries, and blended with so many other languages to form what some refer to as proper English.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EarnestPutz
(2,087 posts)...her language was a conscious choice. If it is instead "reflexive" and an attempt to make a concise point (like an English teacher saying "ain't gonna happen" ) then I still feel that it is misguided. President Carter took speech lessons before he ran for president in an effort to lose some of his southern drawl. He knew that what played in Georgia might be a liability on the national stage.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bigtree
(85,919 posts)Last edited Fri Sep 6, 2019, 11:35 AM - Edit history (1)
...I've said all I need to about that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EarnestPutz
(2,087 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
EarnestPutz
(2,087 posts)...edit it out of this post. The closed parentheses somehow generates that silly thing. Any idea why?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bigtree
(85,919 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EarnestPutz
(2,087 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bigtree
(85,919 posts)...you'll need to break a grammar rule to make the emoji disappear.
Simply move the parentheses over to the right a space.
Hope that doesn't make folks think you're 'uneducated' or something.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EarnestPutz
(2,087 posts)....all get along, even when discussing grammar. Am I right in thinking that the program reads a quotation mark followed by closed parentheses as a smiley face? We really are doomed. Sorry about the cheap shot about spelling. Truth be told, I had to look up the correct spelling myself.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bigtree
(85,919 posts)...I admit, it can be a bit disconcerting for a writer to be forced to move a parentheses or a semi-colon over a space.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SKKY
(11,772 posts)...and I hope and pray it is for Kamala. She is tough as nails and just gets it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ismnotwasm
(41,921 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aikoaiko
(34,127 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided