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melman

(7,681 posts)
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 03:44 PM Sep 2019

Joe Biden Vows Not To Take Fossil Fuel Money At UWS Fundraiser Hosted By Fossil Fuel Leader

Joe Biden is facing questions about whether he violated a "No Fossil Fuel Money" pledge, after attending an Upper West Side fundraiser organized by the founder of a natural gas company.

The former vice president and current frontrunner for the Democratic nomination was in town this week for a forum on climate change hosted by CNN. On Thursday night, he slipped into Majestic for an event hosted by banker David Soloman and Andrew Goldman, co-founder of the liquified natural gas company Western LNG.

While Biden vigorously denied that the appearance was at odds with his own pledge to reject financial support from the fossil fuel industry, dozens of climate activists who'd gathered outside the Central Park West building held a different view.

"I think it violates the spirit of the pledge, if not the word," Matthew Miles Goodrich, an organizer with the grassroots group Sunrise Movement, told Gothamist on Friday. "Goldman is the founder of a natural gas company, and the reality is that natural gas does not have any role in this country under the Green New Deal, and certainly not in a livable future for our generation."


Biden's campaign team has countered that Goldman is no longer involved in day-to-day operations of the company. But the Times notes that he is still listed as LNG's co-founder, and a company press release from last year describes him as a “a long-term investor in the liquefied natural gas sector.”

(Solomon, for his part, is the scion of Hildred Capital Partners and former VP of Forest Laboratories, which previously coughed up $313 million to settle claims that it was illegally marketing antidepressants to children.)

According to a pool report, Biden addressed this tension with Berman during the fundraiser, though stopped short of explaining how exactly his appearance squared with his commitment. "I just want to be very clear to everyone here: I am committed to not raising money from fossil fuel executives and I am not doing that tonight,” he told attendees. "Climate change presents an existential threat, and it is real."

https://gothamist.com/news/joe-biden-vows-not-take-fossil-fuel-money-uws-fundraiser-hosted-fossil-fuel-leader

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Joe Biden Vows Not To Take Fossil Fuel Money At UWS Fundraiser Hosted By Fossil Fuel Leader (Original Post) melman Sep 2019 OP
Undecided, eh? We know who you hate, but who do you like? Hekate Sep 2019 #1
It is classified BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #17
good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Sep 2019 #2
For what it's worth, Sanders has accepted fossil fuel money. George II Sep 2019 #14
Did he violate his pledge? OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #3
A co-founder is a co-founder forever melman Sep 2019 #4
I'm a co-founder of two corporations, registered in 1984. OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #6
Oh man, you're just being TOO sensible! BTW, surprised you're not on the outs with many.... George II Sep 2019 #9
I've my dad to blame for that. OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #29
Oh dear. You contradicted a rant with facts and knowledge of the topic. ehrnst Sep 2019 #19
I've found it not uncommon that those who blast "corporate America"... OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #30
That's wonderful melman Sep 2019 #22
NOYB OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #28
... sheshe2 Sep 2019 #31
Bashing is an end in and of itself. Cary Sep 2019 #37
Are you still on the company website under "our leadership" Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #41
NOYB OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #43
I'll repeat for OF: George II Sep 2019 #10
"What's the story, actually?" melman Sep 2019 #23
You skipped the first question. Why can't you answer either? George II Sep 2019 #24
The answer is yes melman Sep 2019 #25
You did answer the first question. Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #33
Yes melman Sep 2019 #34
You can't interpret your own code? Cary Sep 2019 #38
My code? melman Sep 2019 #42
Code, then sea lioning. Cary Sep 2019 #44
Absolutely not melman Sep 2019 #45
Got plenty melman Sep 2019 #36
Yeah. Control-Z Sep 2019 #11
Well, how DOES one ever change that particular status? OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #32
Who cares? AlexSFCA Sep 2019 #5
He's coming off as sort of "slick" IMO..n/t monmouth4 Sep 2019 #7
Good for him, nice going Mr. VP! And it's great to see that he's sticking to his word. Bravo! George II Sep 2019 #8
Meh! Who cares? NurseJackie Sep 2019 #12
Who, indeed. Cary Sep 2019 #39
DNC accepts money from fossil fuel industry and Biden is running as a Democrat. bootcamp Sep 2019 #13
lol NYMinute Sep 2019 #15
I need to stock up on cheese BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #16
. melman Sep 2019 #18
I disagree .... BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #26
Brava/ Bravo sheshe2 Sep 2019 #27
Wait, I'll check it out. crazytown Sep 2019 #20
There's a big party for me down at the pub, free booze and weed, but, Magoo48 Sep 2019 #21
with such a good all around field, this cycle will be a test run for future dem candidates. Kurt V. Sep 2019 #35
Politicians taking big money from oil exec's- that's news? Joe941 Sep 2019 #40
 

Hekate

(90,658 posts)
1. Undecided, eh? We know who you hate, but who do you like?
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 03:45 PM
Sep 2019
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BlueMississippi

(776 posts)
17. It is classified
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:11 PM
Sep 2019

I mean .. as classified as Trump's tweets!

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George II

(67,782 posts)
14. For what it's worth, Sanders has accepted fossil fuel money.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:06 PM
Sep 2019
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OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
3. Did he violate his pledge?
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 03:53 PM
Sep 2019

What's the story, actually?

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melman

(7,681 posts)
4. A co-founder is a co-founder forever
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 03:56 PM
Sep 2019

I thought we went over this.

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OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
6. I'm a co-founder of two corporations, registered in 1984.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 04:04 PM
Sep 2019

I've never heard of any of the current principals, nor am I at all aware of their product offerings.

I am still a co-founder.

Do you have a point, other than the one established previously?

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George II

(67,782 posts)
9. Oh man, you're just being TOO sensible! BTW, surprised you're not on the outs with many....
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 04:14 PM
Sep 2019

....here on DU, you have a fossil fuel in your screen name!

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OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
29. I've my dad to blame for that.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:37 PM
Sep 2019

Worse yet, he was in the plastics industry all of his adult life.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
19. Oh dear. You contradicted a rant with facts and knowledge of the topic.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:37 PM
Sep 2019

Don't you know that righteous indignation is above mere factual details?

Wait - you don't work for the Washington Post do you?







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OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
30. I've found it not uncommon that those who blast "corporate America"...
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:42 PM
Sep 2019

have never worked in "corporate America". See also Government.

I'm the worst of the hypocrites, daring to see myself as liberal whilst having a career in corporations under government (defense department) contract. I shall forthwith begin the self-flagellation.

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melman

(7,681 posts)
22. That's wonderful
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:57 PM
Sep 2019

Are you listed on their websites' "leadership" pages?

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OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
28. NOYB
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:35 PM
Sep 2019

What difference does it make, though?

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Cary

(11,746 posts)
37. Bashing is an end in and of itself.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:42 AM
Sep 2019

One has to be "able to walk and chew gum at the same time." Otherwise one is, you know.

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
41. Are you still on the company website under "our leadership"
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:50 AM
Sep 2019

Were you listed as management in a filing last year?

If not, probably not the same situation.

Does this help with the confusion?

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OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
43. NOYB
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 02:40 PM
Sep 2019

And, no.

What is Goldman's title at Western LNG?

Does this help with the confusion?

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George II

(67,782 posts)
10. I'll repeat for OF:
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 04:16 PM
Sep 2019
Did he violate his pledge?

What's the story, actually?


Got anything?

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melman

(7,681 posts)
23. "What's the story, actually?"
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:59 PM
Sep 2019

You don't know the story? That's odd.


Luckily it's easy to find information on this.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
24. You skipped the first question. Why can't you answer either?
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:03 PM
Sep 2019
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melman

(7,681 posts)
25. The answer is yes
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:27 PM
Sep 2019

Here's Western LNG President and CEO Davis Thames describing Goldman as part of a "seasoned team of executives"




https://www.bcuc.com/Documents/Proceedings/2018/DOC_52129_C1-5_WLNG-Evidence.pdf




And that's the story.

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Thekaspervote

(32,757 posts)
33. You did answer the first question.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:48 PM
Sep 2019
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melman

(7,681 posts)
34. Yes
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:51 PM
Sep 2019

I answered them both.

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Cary

(11,746 posts)
38. You can't interpret your own code?
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:43 AM
Sep 2019

That' odd.

Luckily no one really cares.

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melman

(7,681 posts)
42. My code?
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 12:52 PM
Sep 2019

What on earth are you talking about?

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Cary

(11,746 posts)
44. Code, then sea lioning.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 03:14 PM
Sep 2019

To be followed with denial.

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melman

(7,681 posts)
36. Got plenty
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 02:09 AM
Sep 2019

Didn't you see post #25? I really don't know how you could have missed it.


Or maybe you just didn't like the story? Oh well.

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Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
11. Yeah.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 04:21 PM
Sep 2019

That jump out at me. How does one ever change that particular status? Just one ridiculous idea in an article full of them.

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OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
32. Well, how DOES one ever change that particular status?
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:48 PM
Sep 2019

Your interlocutor is chronically unable to even understand the question.

What's your thought?

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AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
5. Who cares?
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 03:57 PM
Sep 2019

We need all the money we can get to beat trump.

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monmouth4

(9,694 posts)
7. He's coming off as sort of "slick" IMO..n/t
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 04:09 PM
Sep 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
8. Good for him, nice going Mr. VP! And it's great to see that he's sticking to his word. Bravo!
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 04:12 PM
Sep 2019
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bootcamp

(16 posts)
13. DNC accepts money from fossil fuel industry and Biden is running as a Democrat.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 04:45 PM
Sep 2019

So then you should not be undecided which party you really supports since DNC announced last year they will accepts money from the fossil fuel industry. Besides, I do not understand this sudden righteous indignation coming from some progressives when not so long ago natural gas was considered to an alternative fuel source.
Please bear in mind there will be no progress to curb the use of fossil fuel unless Trump is defeated, and Biden so far is the only candidate who could soundly defeat trump.

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BlueMississippi

(776 posts)
16. I need to stock up on cheese
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:09 PM
Sep 2019

all this whining requires it

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sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
27. Brava/ Bravo
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:33 PM
Sep 2019

Well done!

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
20. Wait, I'll check it out.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:43 PM
Sep 2019


No, it ain't risen from the dead yet.
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Magoo48

(4,707 posts)
21. There's a big party for me down at the pub, free booze and weed, but,
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:48 PM
Sep 2019

I promise I won’t drink or inhale....

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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
35. with such a good all around field, this cycle will be a test run for future dem candidates.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:53 PM
Sep 2019

with gen x and millennials being more imp in the future, what will our electorate tolerate.

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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
40. Politicians taking big money from oil exec's- that's news?
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:51 AM
Sep 2019

Par for the course - business as usual. Now if you want to shake things up looks towards bernie.

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