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Related: About this forumVideo: [Republican AND Robert REICH] Praises Bernie Sanders For Effective Legislating & Humility
Both a former Repub and Robert Reich featured in this vid on Sanders' effectiveness and humility in congress.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Thanks for the thread floppyboo.
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,126 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Amendments are not "legislative accomplishments"... simply being present to vote for someone else's bill is not a legislative accomplishment. Tell me about HIS accomplishments.
By my count, he's sponsored or co-sponsored maybe 7 that have passed... over the course of his 28 year career. That's one every four years.
I guess all I'm trying to say here is that such a low number isn't really all that impressive to me. It's not as if he's some powerhouse or senate lion as many are trying to present him as being. All I'm seeing are exaggerations that really have no semblance to the reality.
Besides, that link is hardly what I'd consider to be an impartial or authoritative source. Might as well have linked to his campaign website.
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vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Robert Reich is also a fellow at the Sanders Institute.
https://www.sandersinstitute.com/about/fellows
Unbiased.
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Gothmog
(145,126 posts)This means bills authored and passed
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lapucelle
(18,245 posts)Sanders was the primary sponsor of 7 bills that were enacted:
S. 2782 (113th): A bill to amend title 36, United States Code, to improve the Federal charter for the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, and for other ...
S. 893 (113th): Veterans Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013
H.R. 5245 (109th): To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1 Marble Street in Fair Haven, Vermont, as the Matthew Lyon Post Office Building.
H.J.Res. 129 (104th): Granting the consent of Congress to the Vermont-New Hampshire Interstate Public Water Supply Compact.
H.R. 1353 (102nd): Entitled the Taconic Mountains Protection Act of 1991.
H.J.Res. 132 (102nd): To designate March 4, 1991, as Vermont Bicentennial Day.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?sponsor=400357#enacted_ex=on
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357
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Gothmog
(145,126 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,245 posts)Sanders was the primary sponsor of 7 bills that were enacted:
S. 2782 (113th): A bill to amend title 36, United States Code, to improve the Federal charter for the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, and for other ...
S. 893 (113th): Veterans Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013
H.R. 5245 (109th): To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1 Marble Street in Fair Haven, Vermont, as the Matthew Lyon Post Office Building.
H.J.Res. 129 (104th): Granting the consent of Congress to the Vermont-New Hampshire Interstate Public Water Supply Compact.
H.R. 1353 (102nd): Entitled the Taconic Mountains Protection Act of 1991.
H.J.Res. 132 (102nd): To designate March 4, 1991, as Vermont Bicentennial Day.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?sponsor=400357#enacted_ex=on
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357
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NYMinute
(3,256 posts)That is the highlight.
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TwilightZone
(25,462 posts)The claim that he's a Republican is a bit disingenuous. Elizabeth Warren is a former Republican, too.
So is Cenk Uygur, for that matter.
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floppyboo
(2,461 posts)But if you watch the video, you'll see the unedited title, which says Former Republican, and does not mention Reich.
I'm guessing alot of comments are coming from people that are just reacting to headlines. Yawn.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,462 posts)It quite prominently says "Republican Praises Bernie" in the preview, which is false.
My point is that "former Republican" and "Republican" aren't the same thing. But then, it's TYT, so I'm not surprised they're not terribly concerned with being accurate.
And, as Nurse Jackie noted, plugging the endorsement of a guy who spent 30 months in jail due to his links to Jack Abramoff is misguided, at best.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)and the youtube name of the 'Rational National' video says Former Republican.
Um, I'm going to guess that David Doel is using 'former' as in 'former' repub representative.
I don't have access to voter roles (just a lowly Canadian bot) so couldn't tell you if he is a registered R today.
Anyways, its more about the information in the video in regards to Sanders' ability to get things done, as supported by Reich, who was Clinton's Labour secretary
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Cenk Uygur's "interview" with Bob Ney is featured PROMINENTLY at the beginning of the video. The "TYT Network" logo and "The Young Turks" is plastered across the background. Don't pretend that you overlooked that. It is, by proxy, a TYT video. The very careful splitting of hairs that's going on there really does nothing to support your argument.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,126 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,462 posts)Once you do, I doubt you'll continue plugging his support of Sanders as a positive. He is the living embodiment of everything Sanders supporters purport to detest and the last person whose support you (or anyone, including TYT) should be applauding.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,462 posts)"Joe Biden lied so hard his eye bled."
Pardon me if I don't take this idiot seriously. You shouldn't, either. He's clearly a hack.
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wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)scrutiny?
Seems these Bernie OP's are shams.
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floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Not trying to be obtuse. Seriously don't understand what you mean.
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wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,735 posts)Robert Reich is a fellow at The Sanders Institute:
https://www.sandersinstitute.com/about/fellows
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floppyboo
(2,461 posts)so they would get passed. He's not stoopid.
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Considering the history of that particular congressman, it's difficult for me to understand why anyone would be boasting about this "endorsement".
All I'm saying is... Cenk Uygur is really scraping the bottom of the barrel with this, and considering Former Republican Congressman Bob Ney's past and his trouble with the law... it's amazing to me that his judgement (regarding anyone's character) would be held up and displayed as a source of pride.
This only works if the viewer/reader/listener has no idea what came before. But for anyone actually who knows WHO he is, this is something that would cause more harm than benefit.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-rep-bob-ney-gets-30-months-in-jail/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,462 posts)One would think that Sanders supporters would have a problem with someone linked to Jack Abramoff, but alas, no.
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George II
(67,782 posts)...for corruption, the first sentenced in the Jack Abramoff scandal.
For those who mentioned that Elizabeth Warren is an "ex-Republican" too, like it's the same as Ney, I don't think she ever pleaded guilty to corruption charges or spent time in jail for corruption.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,462 posts)And I was being sarcastic, though it's difficult to represent that in text. Warren and Ney are clearly not in the same ballpark.
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George II
(67,782 posts)Being an ex-republican isn't disqualifying, but the type of person one was as a republican could be.
By the way, back in 1968 when I first voted (freshman in college, one of the first under-21 voters!) I was a republican. By 1971 that changed.
Sorry again for the misreading!!
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TwilightZone
(25,462 posts)I'm finding it kind of remarkable that Sanders supporters like TYT are holding up Bob Ney as an example of an endorsement to applaud. It's kind of mind-boggling. There would seem to be few people in recent memory who should be more reviled by Sanders supporters than Jack Abramoff. He would seem to epitomize everything they (and we and the rest of the civilized world) deplore.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)The whole thing makes me laugh! They're holding up Bob Ney's "endorsement" as a point of pride. Seriously? It's being boasted about as if it were some bright guiding light of truth that everyone should be drawn to. Fact of the matter is, Bob Ney's judgement is severely lacking. He has no moral compass.
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6280001.stm
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-rep-bob-ney-gets-30-months-in-jail/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)A TYT video praising BS. How often does that happen?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)It's a Rational National video. It features a tyt clip from '16, as well as some written remarks from Reich from '16 - demonstrating that 2 very different people from 2 very different camps agree that Sanders was a very effective legislator.
Or were you being sarcastic with the 're-make' remark?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)The comments by Reich are also based on the TYT video.
The other person from a "different camp" (who resigned in disgrace due to a Federal indictment) was also on the TYT video.
There is a saying .. if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck ....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)edit to explain why this is funny:
The Reich content is not TYT. It's from a Reich livestream.
Maybe watch the video?
Using 2 different sources from differing points of view is pretty good journalism. One of the reasons you should switch your MSM channel often or you'll only get one side of the story.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)any content later created based on that video is still a TYT video.
How come you're defending your position so passionately? Are you ashamed of TYT?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)There is a tyt clip that runs till 2:23, then no more tyt clips. The printed bit is a transcript of a Reich livestream. Not TYT. The person asking the question is not a TYT person.
I keep defending my position because you are clearly wrong.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
questionseverything
(9,651 posts)the money for community clinics that treat the poorest of the poor comes from an amendment Bernie fought for as part of the aca
he took a bill and made it better
ron paul and him teamed up to get the fed audited
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TwilightZone
(25,462 posts)No, they didn't. Ron Paul disapproved of Sanders' version of the 2010 bill and said that Sanders "sold out". The bill never passed.
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/96587-ron-paul-says-bernie-sanders-qsold-outq-on-fed-amendment
Sanders then voted for Rand Paul's version of the bill in 2016, which died in the Senate, as it should have, because it was nothing but a publicity stunt.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,651 posts)The Fed Audit
Thursday, July 21, 2011
The first top-to-bottom audit of the Federal Reserve uncovered eye-popping new details about how the U.S. provided a whopping $16 trillion in secret loans to bail out American and foreign banks and businesses during the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. An amendment by Sen. Bernie Sanders to the Wall Street reform law passed one year ago this week directed the Government Accountability Office to conduct the study. "As a result of this audit, we now know that the Federal Reserve provided more than $16 trillion in total financial assistance to some of the largest financial institutions and corporations in the United States and throughout the world," said Sanders. "This is a clear case of socialism for the rich and rugged, you're-on-your-own individualism for everyone else."
Among the investigation's key findings is that the Fed unilaterally provided trillions of dollars in financial assistance to foreign banks and corporations from South Korea to Scotland, according to the GAO report. "No agency of the United States government should be allowed to bailout a foreign bank or corporation without the direct approval of Congress and the president," Sanders said.
The non-partisan, investigative arm of Congress also determined that the Fed lacks a comprehensive system to deal with conflicts of interest, despite the serious potential for abuse. In fact, according to the report, the Fed provided conflict of interest waivers to employees and private contractors so they could keep investments in the same financial institutions and corporations that were given emergency loans.
For example, the CEO of JP Morgan Chase served on the New York Fed's board of directors at the same time that his bank received more than $390 billion in financial assistance from the Fed. Moreover, JP Morgan Chase served as one of the clearing banks for the Fed's emergency lending programs.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Link to tweet
Ron Paul and Alan Grayson worked like dogs to get this through the House. And the White House would not have gone to Sanders if theyd been able to peel off the votes to tank the amendment. But with 68 Senators having voted for it or cosponsored it in the past year, that was a heavy lift. Bernie was the weak link.
Moral of the story? Even when you have 60 votes, you dont have 60 votes. We did what we were supposed to do. For a year. We whipped cosponsors. We beat back efforts to torpedo the bill. We worked with the libertarians to form a right-left coalition, the true bipartisan kind that you never see, on an issue that the public overwhelmingly supports: accountability for the banks. The votes were there in the Senate.
Bernie traded it all away.
https://shadowproof.com/2010/05/06/ron-paul-says-bernie-sanders-sold-out-sided-with-chris-dodd-to-gut-audit-the-fed/
And does any candidate, especially one that makes their brand as representing the 99%, really want the endorsement of an ex-politician convicted of bribery as part of the Jack Abramoff scandal? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-rep-bob-ney-gets-30-months-in-jail/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,162 posts)...the broad widespread respect and appeal Bernie has...
...Bernie will make a great President capable of working with many across the aisle to get things done on behalf of the American people...
...make no mistake, Bernie's the real-deal if we want grow the middle class and restore our nation to it's proper place of honor and respect in the world...
...President Bernie Sanders...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)So I'm not sure about how "widespread" the respect and appeal Senator Sanders has as a candidate for POTUS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,162 posts)...I can't imagine people voting for a Democratic Capitalist when they have a strong viable Democratic Socialist to choose from...
...I trust in the American people and in particular the wisdom and intelligence of the Progressive Democratic primary voter...
...keep the faith...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)One needs to be able to deliver one's message in a way that indicates that one is a good listener as well as being a lecturer.
And one must be a good listener to be personable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden