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question everything

(47,479 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:37 PM Sep 2019

People in MI and WI want to keep their healthcare

More from Rahm Emanuel's on This Week

EMANUEL: The risk you said, and which is appropriate, and it measures up as, health care is the single issue that Democrats have a 35-point advantage on. President Trump's trying to do everything he can to narrow that down. We have taken a position so far, and the candidates have, through the process -- a few have not -- about -- on basically Medicare for all, which is , we're going to eliminate 150 million people's health care, and we're going to provide health care for people that have just come over the border.

That is an untenable position for the general election. As you know, George, I just biked around Lake Michigan, nearly 1,000 miles, through Michigan and Wisconsin, two really important states. Nobody at a diner ran at me and said, take my healthcare away. Nobody. This is -- this is reckless as it relates to -- and you don't have to take the position to win the primary. And you're basically literally hindering yourself for the general election.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-19-secretary-state-mike-pompeo-dnc/story?id=65464007

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People in MI and WI want to keep their healthcare (Original Post) question everything Sep 2019 OP
Go figure. dchill Sep 2019 #1
Rahm Emanuel's opinion is meaningless to me. n/t demmiblue Sep 2019 #2
Why? Did you visit small places in these states and heard the opposite? question everything Sep 2019 #3
+1000 emmaverybo Sep 2019 #4
I think he makes a good point Buckeyeblue Sep 2019 #6
lol.. thanks for kicking the thread to Cha Sep 2019 #7
A big reason why Barack was able to get the ACA to his desk is because he pulled Rahm LuvLoogie Sep 2019 #5
MfA is political suicide nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #8
k for visibility riversedge Sep 2019 #9
K&R betsuni Sep 2019 #10
If MFA is framed as taking people's health care away, it's probably going to be unpopular. dgauss Sep 2019 #11
And do you think that you, or anyone else, can control the framing? question everything Sep 2019 #12
I would hope a Democrat could control their own framing. dgauss Sep 2019 #13
"Nobody at a diner ran at me and said, take my healthcare away." jcgoldie Sep 2019 #14
 

demmiblue

(36,850 posts)
2. Rahm Emanuel's opinion is meaningless to me. n/t
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:45 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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question everything

(47,479 posts)
3. Why? Did you visit small places in these states and heard the opposite?
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:48 PM
Sep 2019

Shooting the messengers on these pages is not conducive to making informed decisions.

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Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
6. I think he makes a good point
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:35 PM
Sep 2019

We need to enhance ACA. It works. And we need to go after the causes of the inflated costs of healthcare.

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Cha

(297,206 posts)
7. lol.. thanks for kicking the thread to
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:45 PM
Sep 2019

let us know.

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LuvLoogie

(7,003 posts)
5. A big reason why Barack was able to get the ACA to his desk is because he pulled Rahm
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:27 PM
Sep 2019

out of the House with the Chief of Staff job. This made room for Nancy Pelosi's push. I think Rahm would have been a big obstacle to the ARRA and ACA, and to any other progressive legislation coming out of the House.

Rahm is doing the GOP's healthcare takeaway projection for them. Rahm is fine as a manager, but not as a policy guy.

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dgauss

(882 posts)
11. If MFA is framed as taking people's health care away, it's probably going to be unpopular.
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 06:06 PM
Sep 2019

Last edited Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:05 PM - Edit history (1)

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question everything

(47,479 posts)
12. And do you think that you, or anyone else, can control the framing?
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 07:22 PM
Sep 2019

Remember that person who protested the ACA when first enacted that he did not want the "government to mess with his Medicare?"

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dgauss

(882 posts)
13. I would hope a Democrat could control their own framing.
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:46 PM
Sep 2019

Why does Emanual put it this way?

"We have taken a position so far, and the candidates have, through the process -- a few have not -- about -- on basically Medicare for all, which is , we're going to eliminate 150 million people's health care, and we're going to provide health care for people that have just come over the border."


He isn't saying others will frame it that way, that's how he is framing it. Not to mention that it's just not true that any MFA proposal would "eliminate 150 million people's health care."
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jcgoldie

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14. "Nobody at a diner ran at me and said, take my healthcare away."
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:55 PM
Sep 2019

uhmm... well thats a fair way to frame the debate...

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