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Related: About this forumTrump Privately Tells Confidants That 'Socialism' Won't Be 'So Easy' to Beat in 2020
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This year, Trump has repeatedly told friends and donors that running against socialism in a general election may not be so easy because of its populist draw, according to four Republicans and sources close to Trump whove heard him say this over the past several months.
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That Trump has been conceding that socialism could be politically potent didnt catch Sanders campaign by surprise.
One of the reasons I feel so strongly about Bernies ability to beat Trump is because we know that the Democratic nominee will have to credibly explain that Trump betrayed the working class with false promises and that he does not put forward real solutions to help struggling people, said Faiz Shakir, Sanders 2020 campaign manager. Bernie can and will do that successfully. Well have a national debate about policies that help the one percent versus policies that lift the 99. I get the sense Trump knows the reckoning is coming and is worried about being exposed as a fraud. No Sharpie edits will save him.
For Sanders to get to the point of having a national debate with Trump over the merits of socialism, he must first survive the Democratic primary. But even if he doesnt make it through that gauntlet, the Senator will have managed to move the contours of the debate. Four years ago, Sanders and his team were warning liberals that they shouldnt underestimate Trumps appeal, precisely because it spoke to the desire for voters to have government side with them over the elites.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-2020-president-privately-tells-confidants-that-socialism-wont-be-so-easy-to-beat
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
C_U_L8R
(44,998 posts)it's bound to stink.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr.Bill
(24,281 posts)That's why the republicans are going to call it communism. In 2020, they won't even use the word socialism.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,056 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Been watching test phrases coming from various Trump operatives. Rubio,Cruz and Graham have been trying out various synonyms for Communism.
Sure looking like 1951 and Tail Gunner Joe Language about to hit the stage big time. My guess is,Trump will test this message in the coming days at one of his Reelection Hate Rallies.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)I don't think Trump has the capacity to contribute to his campaign strategy in any way whatsoever. This grants him a level of understanding I don't think he possesses. I'm not sure he could sound out the word socialism let alone understand the framing of the concept in the context of a political campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,056 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)and provides taxpayer funded bailouts to farmers while trying to prop up coal mines. Dude provided massive tax cuts during a strong economy with record low unemployment. Don't get me started on the emoluments at his hotels around the world.
But yeah sure, Dems are the socialists.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)All the while salivating and singing "I feel like chicken tonight"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zambero
(8,964 posts)will be a much bigger problem for Republicans going forward.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)the commons are so neglected that you can hear the creaking and moaning of the supports and see bits of what's left scattered to and fro, you can bet that social democracy may become a force to reckon with.
In fact, it is vital. The foundation is cracked and crumbling, the basement is filling up with sewage and the body politic is going to be on life support soon, though the Refascist Party would vote to pull the plug on it if possible.
There is a point where all the glimmer of the television spectacle won't be able to gloss over the decrepitude. The parasite is killing the host, drop by drop.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jmbar2
(4,874 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Perseus
(4,341 posts)And we should not support that kind of talk.
What Democrats are talking about is a "Democratic-Socialist" government, which uses all of the capitalist ideologies but with sound laws and regulations to assure there is no abuse, they are also discussing laws that support benefits which are supposed to be provided by government, such as Universal Healthcare, Free education, and a few others.
We have been fed the lie that the role of the government is to protect the nation, which is only one of the roles government must play, they have done that so that they can feed the military establishment more money than it is necessary and they have created a culture of waste by doing so. The role of the government is more than that, it is to provide its citizens with the basic needs such as those I listed in the previous paragraph.
What republicans do with the word "Socialism" is to try to convince people that their check is going to be divided so that those who do not work get their share, which is so far from the truth.
Democrats should not talk about "Socialism", it doesn't exist.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)One of David Sirota's buddies with a rich fantasy life.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)For those who might remember, communist was shorthand for Soviet Dupe - A traitor - A little hard for Trump to push that case I would have thought
Love the comments about the wall. There's a great attack ad right there.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Especially when it comes to what they "leak" to the press.
I think this is more evidence that Bernie is still the GOP's favored pick for the Democratic nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lucid Dreamer
(584 posts)We have a winner!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided