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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Biden's Agenda Is Far More Liberal Than Hillary Clinton
Joe Biden is the party's strongest candidate https://politicalwire.com/2019/09/10/biden-is-far-more-liberal-than-hillary-clinton/
Many Democrats see Joe Biden as a voice of ideological restraint in a party rapidly moving to the left, McClatchy reports.
But the 2020 Democratic frontrunners emerging policy agenda is anything but moderate at least compared to the partys last presidential nominee.
From health care to climate change to criminal justice, Biden has proposed ideas more ambitious and liberal than policies supported by Hillary Clinton in the 2016 campaign, a McClatchy review of the candidates platforms found.
But the 2020 Democratic frontrunners emerging policy agenda is anything but moderate at least compared to the partys last presidential nominee.
From health care to climate change to criminal justice, Biden has proposed ideas more ambitious and liberal than policies supported by Hillary Clinton in the 2016 campaign, a McClatchy review of the candidates platforms found.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Biden's Agenda Is Far More Liberal Than Hillary Clinton (Original Post)
Gothmog
Sep 2019
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jalan48
(13,856 posts)1. Definitely an improvement. nt.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
StevieM
(10,500 posts)2. Hillary had the most progressive platform since the 1980s. (eom)
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,856 posts)4. So Biden's must be super progressive then.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Amishman
(5,554 posts)5. Compared to where we were 10-20 years ago? Absolutely
Our platform has come a very long way in a short period of time.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,856 posts)6. This OP is about his agenda compared to Hillary's of four years ago.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Amishman
(5,554 posts)7. Id say more progressive than Hillary's campaign too
Though I am not sure if this is out of his own positions or if he is just riding the blue wave pushing left
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)3. Having a great agenda is half the equation
The other half is how keen they are on returning to the same sort of capitulation to conservative ideals we've seen in the past - where we have one party who pushes for extremism conservatism aggressively and cruelly, and the other wants to work towards compromise in the interest of passing stuff.
Bryant
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,098 posts)8. Joe Biden's appeal actually isn't a mystery
Link to tweet
Biden shows reverence for the most popular Democrat around, former president Barack Obama; others find fault in everything from the Affordable Care Act to immigration policy. Biden does not bombard voters with a torrent of multi-part plans; he gives them a few basic positions and defends them. Biden does not campaign from the neck up; he campaigns with his heart on his sleeve. Biden is deeply optimistic; his opponents think Americans are the problem, not Trump. (I dont suggest that his opponents are wrong, merely that their stance apparently isnt as popular as they thought.) Biden wants normalcy plus reform; his opponents want a peaceful revolution. Biden knows people want to be heard and seen; his opponents (with the exception of Sen. Kamala D. Harris) dont fully grasp this. They want to help," to pepper people with ideas and a to-do list, while Biden takes the time to listen to them. (Think of the well-meaning friend who has a thousand suggestions when you are grieving and youd rather they just shut up and commiserate.)
This is the grouchy-white-guy-in-the-diner problem all over again. Reporters are blinded by their own age, background, education and geography. Instead of going to West Virginia diners to find the Trump voter, reporters should go talk to the residents of The Villages in Florida, the African American churchgoing ladies and the buttoned-down professionals in the affluent suburbs (the Romney-Clinton voters). These people have endured a noisy, offensive and intrusive presence in the White House. They dont necessarily want a different noisy, intrusive presence even one they agree with on substance.
Part of the mystery of Bidens appeal would be solved if the moderators flipped their questions, as one smart Democrat not in the Biden camp put it. Instead of asking Biden or another moderate, Why arent you going with the big, bold idea of Medicare-for-all?, the moderators might consider asking Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) or Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Why blow up Obamacare, and why dont you trust people to choose Medicare if given the option? Instead of assuming that extreme proposals are the standard, requiring the moderates to explain why they are such wet blankets, the moderators should press the super-progressives on questions such as: What makes you think that voters want to go through another health-care makeover? Why should poorer people pay for richer peoples health care or subsidize their college debt?
Better yet, ask the candidates to relate the personal story from a voter who moved them the most, or the last voter whose phone number they took so that the candidate could call later, or the most insightful thing they have heard from a voter. It might reveal who is talking at voters and who is listening to them.
This is the grouchy-white-guy-in-the-diner problem all over again. Reporters are blinded by their own age, background, education and geography. Instead of going to West Virginia diners to find the Trump voter, reporters should go talk to the residents of The Villages in Florida, the African American churchgoing ladies and the buttoned-down professionals in the affluent suburbs (the Romney-Clinton voters). These people have endured a noisy, offensive and intrusive presence in the White House. They dont necessarily want a different noisy, intrusive presence even one they agree with on substance.
Part of the mystery of Bidens appeal would be solved if the moderators flipped their questions, as one smart Democrat not in the Biden camp put it. Instead of asking Biden or another moderate, Why arent you going with the big, bold idea of Medicare-for-all?, the moderators might consider asking Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) or Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Why blow up Obamacare, and why dont you trust people to choose Medicare if given the option? Instead of assuming that extreme proposals are the standard, requiring the moderates to explain why they are such wet blankets, the moderators should press the super-progressives on questions such as: What makes you think that voters want to go through another health-care makeover? Why should poorer people pay for richer peoples health care or subsidize their college debt?
Better yet, ask the candidates to relate the personal story from a voter who moved them the most, or the last voter whose phone number they took so that the candidate could call later, or the most insightful thing they have heard from a voter. It might reveal who is talking at voters and who is listening to them.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden