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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:21 PM Sep 2019

The DSA Left attacks on Warren are cranking up

Don’t Trust Elizabeth Warren’s Big-Donor Ban
Jacobin Mag, Sept 10, 2019
https://jacobinmag.com/2019/09/elizabeth-warren-2020-big-donor-ban-bernie-sanders-corporate-money/

(snip)When she announced her presidential campaign this year, Warren promised to eschew the traditional top-dollar donor circuit. But, as Shane Goldmacher points out, “Last winter and spring, she transferred $10.4 million in leftover funds from her 2018 Senate campaign to underwrite her 2020 run, a portion of which was raised from the same donor class she is now running against.”

Her campaign treasurer, meanwhile, is “a key benefactor and rainmaker for Democratic political committees” with a fat Rolodex of wealthy liberal super-PAC donors. Add to this the fact that Warren has stated clearly that she’ll drop her big-donor ban during the general election if she wins the primary, and a picture starts to emerge of a candidate who is not particularly committed to keeping the donor class at arm’s length.

Warren was schmoozing in Silicon Valley and Martha’s Vineyard right up until her reelection to the Senate in November 2018. By her own account, she intends to revive the practice if she wins the nomination in July 2020. Explaining why, she told the Young Turks, “Look, I do not believe in unilateral disarmament. We need to win. We need to win in 2020. When we hit 2020 and we’re in a race with Donald Trump . . . we got to be all in.”

(snip) Warren’s campaign strategy has been to promote the idea that she’s every bit as progressive as Sanders, only with more fleshed-out plans. To shore up that impression, she’s smartly opted to forego big money for the time being. But laudable though the decision is, “for the time being” won’t cut it. To make lasting change in working-class people’s lives, we need leaders who aren’t afraid to make enemies of capitalists — to be feared by them, not just for a short stint, but for life.

The Democratic Party has always been a cross-class institution. Its base is majority working-class, while its figureheads and functionaries have largely come from the elite and bent over backward to protect capitalist interests. In exchange for that protection, the party has received a steady influx of capitalist dollars to sustain its electoral operations. While some industries (tobacco, fossil fuels, defense) reliably back Republicans, others (finance, real estate, tech, entertainment, health care) tend to tilt to the Democrats, and the Democrats like it that way.
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The DSA Left attacks on Warren are cranking up (Original Post) crazytown Sep 2019 OP
I'm not concerned about that at all. Ultimately it will be about 3% of the electorate Kurt V. Sep 2019 #1
Neither am I... didn't even bother to read it all the way through. demmiblue Sep 2019 #4
It's good you're Exposing them, IMHO! Cha Sep 2019 #2
Oh and Bull*****.. Cha Sep 2019 #3
As though those nebulous "capitalists" don't already hate Warren. Saviolo Sep 2019 #5
Absolutely. She couldn't win friends on Wall Street now if she were trying. paulkienitz Sep 2019 #7
I am sure she will do the right thing when the time is right 4now Sep 2019 #6
What Senator Warren is doing and plans to do makes eminent sense. Blue_true Sep 2019 #8
Who needs to observe the "Unity Pledge" when you have supporters and surrogates like DSA. George II Sep 2019 #9
Is it possible to be a member of the Democrats and the Green Party at the same time? crazytown Sep 2019 #11
I heard some contrived story that DSA isn't really a "party". Go figure. George II Sep 2019 #12
David Sirota and company is spinning its wheels BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #10
Not to mention Justice Democrats. Every one of those organizations have intertwined.... George II Sep 2019 #13
That's funny. They share a common cause with the capitalist elites kcr Sep 2019 #14
Cramer was talking about the banks. They have reason to fear her. crazytown Sep 2019 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author kcr Sep 2019 #16
Jacobin.mag is a bad joke. nt comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #17
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
1. I'm not concerned about that at all. Ultimately it will be about 3% of the electorate
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:25 PM
Sep 2019
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demmiblue

(36,850 posts)
4. Neither am I... didn't even bother to read it all the way through.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:37 PM
Sep 2019

People like the drama, though.

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Cha

(297,200 posts)
2. It's good you're Exposing them, IMHO!
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:26 PM
Sep 2019

Thank you, crazytown

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Cha

(297,200 posts)
3. Oh and Bull*****..
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:27 PM
Sep 2019
The Democratic Party has always been a cross-class institution. Its base is majority working-class, while its figureheads and functionaries have largely come from the elite and bent over backward to protect capitalist interests.
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Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
5. As though those nebulous "capitalists" don't already hate Warren.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:38 PM
Sep 2019

She's been poking at the Wall Street Bear for years, now. She might as well be in one of those clickbait ads: "Senator from MA found one weird trick to break up too-big-to-fail banks! Capitalists hate her!"

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paulkienitz

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7. Absolutely. She couldn't win friends on Wall Street now if she were trying.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:00 PM
Sep 2019
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4now

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6. I am sure she will do the right thing when the time is right
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:44 PM
Sep 2019
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Blue_true

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8. What Senator Warren is doing and plans to do makes eminent sense.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:19 PM
Sep 2019

I just don't get the mindset that because people are rich, they are also out to always take advantage.

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George II

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9. Who needs to observe the "Unity Pledge" when you have supporters and surrogates like DSA.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:31 PM
Sep 2019
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crazytown

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11. Is it possible to be a member of the Democrats and the Green Party at the same time?
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:48 PM
Sep 2019

If not, why are DSA members allowed in the Democratic Party ?

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George II

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12. I heard some contrived story that DSA isn't really a "party". Go figure.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:23 PM
Sep 2019
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BlueMississippi

(776 posts)
10. David Sirota and company is spinning its wheels
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:47 PM
Sep 2019

He and his kind see Senator Warren a threat in their zeal to convert the USA into Bernieland.

DSA, OR, TYT, BNC are all one organization with the same people in charge, many of whom voted for Jill Stein.

So the attacks. I am sure Senator Warren can handle it. David Sirota is scum.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
13. Not to mention Justice Democrats. Every one of those organizations have intertwined....
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:28 PM
Sep 2019

....founders and board members.

The only one missing is the Green Party, and Nina Turner was tight with Jill Stein at the "People's Convention".

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
15. Cramer was talking about the banks. They have reason to fear her.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 12:40 PM
Sep 2019

Elizabeth decapitated Wells Fargo twice - secured the resignation of their CEOs twice following interrogation in Committee.

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comradebillyboy

(10,147 posts)
17. Jacobin.mag is a bad joke. nt
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 12:52 PM
Sep 2019
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