Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumNPR/PBS poll: Warren is the most liked candidate among Democrats
...Warren finds herself in a strong position with Democratic voters ahead of Thursday's Democratic presidential debate.
Seventy-five percent of Democratic voters now say they have a favorable impression of Warren that's up from 53% in January, the last time the poll asked the favorability of candidates or potential candidates. That's a whopping 22-point jump.
What's more, those saying they have a negative impression has gone down from 17% to 11%.
"Elizabeth Warren seems to be on the verge of starting to make significant and serious inroads into this contest," said Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion, which conducts the poll. He added, "Heading into the debate, she's very well positioned."
Former Vice President Joe Biden, who leads in most national polls of the Democratic contest, is also well liked, but he's seen a decline since January 71% of Democrats say they have a positive impression of Biden, a 5-point drop, and 22% don't, an 11-point increase in his negative rating. "One of the initial senses of what Joe Biden presented was that he seemed to be less of a risk," Miringoff said, "but his performance so far has not been gaffe-proof, and, as a result, people are not as comfortable, and that opened up the door for others, and particularly Warren."
More at https://www.wbur.org/npr/759574033/poll-democrats-most-like-warren-but-voters-overall-are-lukewarm-on-democrats-tru
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)What does the Morning Consult poll say?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeyondGeography
(39,276 posts)The poll also strongly suggests that not Trumpy isnt going to cut it as a GE message.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Roy Rolling
(6,853 posts)Thats a cheap shot at Biden, beneath your dignity. Though hilarious, Ill give you that.
And Im speaking as a 2016 Sanders-then-rabid-Clinton supporter who is leaning Warren in 2020 among a field of at least five people who would be a better president than Orange Youtan, our current Primate-in-Chief.
Warren is the real deal, unlike any of the other candidates. Shes was a professional educator, not a lawyer. Like Obama, shes forgotten more about the Constitution and law than any Republican currently knows.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Until you mentioned it, I never even thought of VP Biden. I take your point though. It's best I retire that reference until after the GE.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DownriverDem
(6,205 posts)but I just don't see voters electing a woman. I just don't want to take that chance. Beating trump is all that matters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,276 posts)and the percentage of women who say they wont vote for Trump next year.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CTyankee
(63,768 posts)Tsk, tsk, how soon some Dems choose to forget HRC's winning the popular vote handily...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)the #1 object of bigotry. Even women think women shouldn't run things. Add in the left leaning policies and it would be a miracle for her to win.
We need to put ourselves in the absolute best position to defeat the monster. Texas may be a stretch, but we've got to try. It's insurance if they rig other states.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Perhaps you haven't lived in Texas - I have - but there is a history of a higher percentage of women being leaders, such as mayors, than in other states, because the women there realize that they have to be in charge in order to make change. Granted, they are usually of two types: the former cheerleader and beauty queen (Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson) or the post menopausal grandma who you just don't mess with (Governor Ann Richards). Ever heard of Barbara Jordan? Google her.
From a 1988 article in the NYT:
It would be simplistic to say that the oil boom, and then the bust, were responsible for the increasing prominence of women in politics here, for it is a national trend. According to the Women's Campaign Fund, women held 4 percent of elected mayoral offices in the nation in 1975 and 14.6 percent in 1985.
https://www.nytimes.com/1988/03/20/magazine/lace-over-steel-the-women-mayors-of-texas.html
https://www.wideopencountry.com/11-texas-women-who-influenced-history/
Ann Richards explained about women in Texas taking charge, when she talked about visiting her mother in the retirement community where she lived, and found her mother up on the roof fixing a shingle. When Ann called up, "Mama, they have people here to do that!" her mother replied, "Well, they're not here yet, and I know if I do it, it'll be done right."
https://www.ewtg.org/
I hope that addresses your 'concerns' about the chances of a female candidate being considered worthy in Texas.
Now, what I do know they will balk at is someone calling themselves a "socialist."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)of winning in Texas. Period. Paragraph. This is my opinion, based on observation, after living here in Texas since 1997. This does not mean that there were and are exceptions on positions lower than president and in blue areas. It has nothing to do with the worthiness of any of our female candidates - they certainly are.
Patronizing comments, like "Ever heard of Barbara Jordan? Google her." and "I hope that addresses your 'concerns' about the chances of a female candidate being considered worthy in Texas" are uncalled for. If you respond to my posts, I would appreciate more respect.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I'What chances do you think a man who identifies as a socialist would have? Better or worse than a woman with progressive policies?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)But your 'concern' is noted.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bettie
(15,995 posts)"Likeable".
Ever notice "likeable" isn't even a thing for male candidates? Meanwhile, I have heard 'not likeable' about all of the women in the race at various times.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)After all, women of a particular age are supposed to be very aware and responsive about how "nice" they are. Knitting, making cookies, being supportive. But not being in charge of men.
Believing one is more competent than any man to lead the most powerful nation in the world might give people the impression that a lady isn't terribly worried about the personal approval of men, young white men in particular, who are very accustomed to having their opinions counting more than anyone else's.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Chris Christie
Ted Cruz
Newt Gingrich
Lindsey Graham
Jeff Sessions
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcgoldie
(11,582 posts)So many of them these days seems like half the polls you see...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I don't think "outlier" means what you think it does.
Unless I missed the sarcasm. In that case, nevermind...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,899 posts)Thanks, ehrnst
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)doesn't it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,899 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,276 posts)An appealing combination for a lot of people it seems.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,276 posts)Amazing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aeromanKC
(3,307 posts)I want her to stay in the Senate!! (Especially since Massachusetts has an (R) Gov.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarc
(10,472 posts)while Joe remains the safety school.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
woundedkarma
(498 posts)If Biden is elected, it will be infinitely better than trump.
A pile of **** would be an infinitely better pres than trump.
But it'll be 4 years (or 8) of giving in to republicans at every turn. He's not a fighter. Maybe he'd make a better than average president. This isn't the time for a better than average president.
We need Warren. She's a fighter. She's extremely intelligent. She will do what's right. And I don't ever see her capitulating to republicans. At the same time, I believe she would deal with them if they came to the table honestly. And I trust her to know when that happens.
Not so with Biden, I feel like he'd give away the farm to look like a good guy because he just isn't a fighter.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jimmil
(629 posts)can a woman handle the pressure of being a president??? OK OK OK... before you burn up your keyboard writing what a moran I am just hear me out. What is the number 1 thing we HAVE to do in 2020? Right, vote Gump out of office and hopefully remove the shit stains from the oval office. Every Democrat running is miles better than what is currently infecting our lives every day. What concerns me is there are STILL people who are undecided that think a woman does not have what it takes to be a president. As wrong as that is and I am sure I will hear about it, it does not take away the fact that people think that way. So it all boils down to the number 1 thing we must do in 2020. Do we toss those voters away like we don't need those troglodytes or do we curry favor with them? This all just makes me think of 2016 and we all just knew we were going to have our first female president.
I really hope I am wrong and America has progressed past this sort of thinking but lets face it, with what currently is squatting at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue it makes one pause and wonder just how stupid are some people?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I believe that Barack Obama was the subject of such "concern" that a black man might not be able to 'handle the pressure" of all the racism.
I think that we need to trust the women who are running to make that call. FYI - the last Democratic woman to run for POTUS got more votes than any other candidate not named Obama.
I belive that question was also asked concerning Obama's candidacy in 2008.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jcgoldie
(11,582 posts)...then you are partially responsible for that sexist choice.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Firestorm49
(4,002 posts)No matter how aggressive she may be, some things will be passed, others will not. Shes a fighter and thats very important to me. I dont think Joe has enough venom in his fangs.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,718 posts)since he stands in the way of the other candidates getting the nomination, and that will create some resentment among their supporters.
Especially when he's been in the lead all year. Apparently some Democratis don't like that, and they can express their disapproval of his doing better than their favorites by giving him an unfavorable rating when polled on favorability..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DrFunkenstein
(8,745 posts)As a public figure since the early 90's, Clinton's favorability numbers were already "baked" into the equation. Biden's appeal is almost entirely on the fact that he is already a known quantity.
Comparatively, people who are not political junkies were just getting to know Warren since she launched her campaign this year. And the consensus is clear - they like her. They may be afraid what their neighbors think, but personally they like her.
Many were expecting a scolding, snooty Ivy League professor, but have been pleasantly surprised by her ability to be powerfully intelligent but still manage to be personable and relatable.
And it is hard not to be impressed by the remarkable discipline of her campaign. She recovered impressively from an early stumble that would have torpedoed many a lesser candidate. As more and more Dems feel confident about her, the GOP is growing more and more anxious.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
aikoaiko
(34,127 posts)Anything can happen in this race.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
5starlib
(191 posts)While Biden gets attacked daily and is still standing. Warren hasn't showed she can stand up to any scrutiny. And getting called Pocohontas is not what I mean by scrutiny or vetting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden