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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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*NEW* (A+ Rated) ABC/WP Poll vs Trump: Biden (+15), Sanders (+9), Warren (+7), Harris (+7) (Original Post) Skya Rhen Sep 2019 OP
Only Biden's lead is real NYMinute Sep 2019 #1
You don't think Warren has been received as much, if not more, flack from Trump than Biden? n/t TCJ70 Sep 2019 #3
Lol BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #5
Not even close. All he has done is called her Pocahontas. mr_liberal Sep 2019 #11
Warren has received no scrutiny in the primary 5starlib Sep 2019 #19
Completely wrong shenmue Sep 2019 #26
This!!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #28
Biden's lead is deep DownriverDem Sep 2019 #7
Yes, Biden is the only one that can bring back the Obama coalition 5starlib Sep 2019 #20
On a search, Warren and Biden get attacks from Trump. Bernie.. not so much. Amimnoch Sep 2019 #25
Please correct Biden v. Trump. Trump should be 40%. nt Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #2
Thanks! Skya Rhen Sep 2019 #4
... Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #8
Biden is doing well in this A+ Cha Sep 2019 #6
As are all the top 5 Democrats cannabis_flower Sep 2019 #10
I like Biden's numbers better right now. Cha Sep 2019 #13
+15 is about what we need to counter Trump/GOP/Russia cheating. honest.abe Sep 2019 #9
Absolutely! nt Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #12
Yes ...that and considering MOE we need to have a big lead!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #29
good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Sep 2019 #14
National polls are NOT as important Desert grandma Sep 2019 #15
This is true. nt Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #16
Yes, though individual state polls aren't that reliable Bradical79 Sep 2019 #17
The polls that are available favor Biden. Desert grandma Sep 2019 #21
I'm dumb... Bradical79 Sep 2019 #22
That's true in a close race. Ace Rothstein Sep 2019 #31
Excellent! All of The Major Candidates Are Viable, So Choose The One You Believe In DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #18
I don't thing IMHO it's irrational fear. If you consider MOE in those polls the numbers for BS & EW Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #30
It's gotta be Joe. nt oasis Sep 2019 #23
K&R Scurrilous Sep 2019 #24
HAS THIS FORUM GOT AMNESIA? Thunderbeast Sep 2019 #27
Anything less than 15% can be stolen. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #32
55-40 is a done deal. Biden is it. BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #33
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
1. Only Biden's lead is real
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:28 AM
Sep 2019

Others have not come under Trumpenführer's fire yet.

BS has not been vetted and asked about his essays or his "I am a socialist" tape by any major media and the public doesn't know about them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
3. You don't think Warren has been received as much, if not more, flack from Trump than Biden? n/t
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:29 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
5. Lol
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:32 AM
Sep 2019

Unreal, isn’t it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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mr_liberal

(1,017 posts)
11. Not even close. All he has done is called her Pocahontas.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:03 AM
Sep 2019

The general election will be a million times worse than that, and it won't be just Trump, it'll be the whole Republican Party, media, business community, etc..... attacking.

Biden will get it too, but what Biden has that Warren and others don't is more moderate policies and a track record with the Obama Admin. With Warren and everybody else it'll be fear of the unknown for voters at how much of a disaster they might be.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

5starlib

(191 posts)
19. Warren has received no scrutiny in the primary
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 04:50 PM
Sep 2019

She's skated through the debates. Biden gets negative stories every week and yet he's killing Trump in the polls. That says a lot that people like him, no matter what.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
26. Completely wrong
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 07:29 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,226 posts)
7. Biden's lead is deep
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:38 AM
Sep 2019

Biden is building a coalition that will beat trump. Beating trump is all that matters to me. We must win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

5starlib

(191 posts)
20. Yes, Biden is the only one that can bring back the Obama coalition
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 04:51 PM
Sep 2019

That brought us victories in 2008 and 2012.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
25. On a search, Warren and Biden get attacks from Trump. Bernie.. not so much.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 07:00 PM
Sep 2019

Was reading this response, and the other responses below it. So, for all 3, I bing’d “Donald Trump Mocks <candidate>” for each Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders.

Many hits of Cheetolini attacking Biden. Most recent full news story was a Breitbart article called “Donald Trump mocks Joe Bidens Gaffes “he’s such a disaster””. I won’t link it here due to the right wing source, but there’s Biden definitely gets negative attention from the disaster in chief.

Likewise, many hits of Cheetolini attacking Warren. Most recent full news story was a Daily Wire (again, right wing so sorry, but no linking) article titled “Trump Mocks Warren: ‘I Have More Indian Blood Than She Does – And I Have None’”, and she definitely gets negative attention from the disaster in chief.

But Bernie? Hard to find much right wing criticism of him at all. So by official legal indictments have findings that Russia supports him, Trump goes very easy on him, and right wing media goes very easy on him. Doesn’t inspire my confidence to say the least.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
2. Please correct Biden v. Trump. Trump should be 40%. nt
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:29 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,889 posts)
6. Biden is doing well in this A+
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:37 AM
Sep 2019

poll against trump.

Mahalo, Skya!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
10. As are all the top 5 Democrats
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:00 AM
Sep 2019

any one of which looks good against Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(296,889 posts)
13. I like Biden's numbers better right now.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:05 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(8,617 posts)
9. +15 is about what we need to counter Trump/GOP/Russia cheating.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:58 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,716 posts)
29. Yes ...that and considering MOE we need to have a big lead!!
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:24 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Desert grandma

(803 posts)
15. National polls are NOT as important
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 10:02 AM
Sep 2019

as polls in the electoral "must win" states of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan. Hillary was ahead in the national polls in 2016, but the Orange Buffoon managed to to squeak ahead in these states for the electoral win and the Presidency. We must not lose sight of that. While it might be nice to win in Arizona, Florida, NC or Texas, the test will be in those rust belt states that have previously voted Democratic. Joe Biden is the strongest candidate to win in those states IMO. For me, the only thing that counts in 2020 is winning.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
17. Yes, though individual state polls aren't that reliable
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 04:34 PM
Sep 2019

At least at this point in time. Just much much less data available. I've seen a Quinnipiac poll from July, and a PPP poll from November 2018. That's all I found on specific "what if" scenarios.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Desert grandma

(803 posts)
21. The polls that are available favor Biden.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 05:20 PM
Sep 2019

I'm not sure how to post a link however a recent Marquette poll on September 04 (Link Real Clear Politics) had Biden 28 (+8) over his nearest challenger, Sanders at 20. In Michigan, the Epic MRA poll August 28 showed Biden +10 over Trump while the nearest Competitor was Warren at +6. These polls are of Democratic voters in these states. (See Real Clear Politics recent polls) That's why I think Biden will do better in these states.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
22. I'm dumb...
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 05:42 PM
Sep 2019

I was looking only for Ohio specific polls for some reason rather than other states. Got a couple wires crossed lol.

Oh, and small correction, August Epic/MRA has Biden +10, not +8. You undersold your own candidate!

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Ace Rothstein

(3,144 posts)
31. That's true in a close race.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:20 PM
Sep 2019

If our candidate wins by double digits in 2020 then it will be an electoral college blowout. We're talking every Obama 2008 state besides IN while likely winning TX and GA.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
18. Excellent! All of The Major Candidates Are Viable, So Choose The One You Believe In
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 04:43 PM
Sep 2019

Be wary of people trying to turn off your rational thought by inspiring irrational fear.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Thekaspervote

(32,716 posts)
30. I don't thing IMHO it's irrational fear. If you consider MOE in those polls the numbers for BS & EW
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:27 PM
Sep 2019

Become too close for comfort

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oasis

(49,338 posts)
23. It's gotta be Joe. nt
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 06:19 PM
Sep 2019
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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thunderbeast

(3,400 posts)
27. HAS THIS FORUM GOT AMNESIA?
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:14 PM
Sep 2019

Polls showed Clinton leading by nine points on Election Day! How Did THAT work out for us?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
32. Anything less than 15% can be stolen.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:38 AM
Sep 2019

This is especially true when we have people using the nomination process to smear and denigrate the Democratic party. That kind of negativity generates apathy. Apathy results in low voter turnout. Low voter turnout means that it's easier for the GOP and Russia to steal elections.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueMississippi

(776 posts)
33. 55-40 is a done deal. Biden is it.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 10:52 AM
Sep 2019

Others have not face Republican oppo at all and they will sink.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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