Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumJoe Biden's appeal actually isn't a mystery (Washington Post)
The media put emphasis on moments a debate, a gaffe which those following the race sporadically wave off as noise. Lifelong Democratic voters dont need to listen to the media; they know who Biden is. (Warning to President Trump: Voters have deep affection for Biden and deep animosity toward the president, so attacking Biden in personal terms may well backfire spectacularly.)
The media should be looking not at How in the world could voters stick with Biden? but rather, What does he have that the others dont? Lets try to answer the latter.
Biden shows reverence for the most popular Democrat around, former president Barack Obama; others find fault in everything from the Affordable Care Act to immigration policy. Biden does not bombard voters with a torrent of multi-part plans; he gives them a few basic positions and defends them. Biden does not campaign from the neck up; he campaigns with his heart on his sleeve. Biden is deeply optimistic; his opponents think Americans are the problem, not Trump. (I dont suggest that his opponents are wrong, merely that their stance apparently isnt as popular as they thought.) Biden wants normalcy plus reform; his opponents want a peaceful revolution. Biden knows people want to be heard and seen; his opponents (with the exception of Sen. Kamala D. Harris) dont fully grasp this. They want to help," to pepper people with ideas and a to-do list, while Biden takes the time to listen to them. (Think of the well-meaning friend who has a thousand suggestions when you are grieving and youd rather they just shut up and commiserate.)
This is the grouchy-white-guy-in-the-diner problem all over again. Reporters are blinded by their own age, background, education and geography. Instead of going to West Virginia diners to find the Trump voter, reporters should go talk to the residents of The Villages in Florida, the African American churchgoing ladies and the buttoned-down professionals in the affluent suburbs (the Romney-Clinton voters). These people have endured a noisy, offensive and intrusive presence in the White House. They dont necessarily want a different noisy, intrusive presence even one they agree with on substance.
Part of the mystery of Bidens appeal would be solved if the moderators flipped their questions, as one smart Democrat not in the Biden camp put it. Instead of asking Biden or another moderate, Why arent you going with the big, bold idea of Medicare-for-all?, the moderators might consider asking Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) or Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Why blow up Obamacare, and why dont you trust people to choose Medicare if given the option? Instead of assuming that extreme proposals are the standard, requiring the moderates to explain why they are such wet blankets, the moderators should press the super-progressives on questions such as: What makes you think that voters want to go through another health-care makeover? Why should poorer people pay for richer peoples health care or subsidize their college debt?
Better yet, ask the candidates to relate the personal story from a voter who moved them the most, or the last voter whose phone number they took so that the candidate could call later, or the most insightful thing they have heard from a voter. It might reveal who is talking at voters and who is listening to them.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/11/biden-dilemma/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,765 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bayard
(22,069 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,975 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)And right here:
Better yet, ask the candidates to relate the personal story from a voter who moved them the most, or the last voter whose phone number they took so that the candidate could call later, or the most insightful thing they have heard from a voter. It might reveal who is talking at voters and who is listening to them.
sums it all up.
Rubin gets to the nitty-gritty of Biden's appeal and support.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,975 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,975 posts)I posted earlier:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287272941
Rubin at the start of her column:
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,147 posts)impressed at his ability to withstand hostile media coverage and keep smiling. The pundits keep predicting his impending collapse but it never happens. I am also generally quite happy with his policy proposals. I am also more simpatico with his views on foreign policy and trade. He's a bit more conservative than Hillary was but that's also ok.
My favorites from the spring aren't going to win the nomination so I'll be getting behind Biden or Warren pretty soon.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)I'll give him that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)From the article in the OP:
Sanders wanted to primary Obama in 2012. This voter has not forgotten.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)Of course Bernie's stance was rhetorical to highlight how much Bernie like Obama's positions when he was campaigning.
Bernie endorsed Obama for the Presidency in 2012 just as he did in 2008.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,218 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Desert grandma
(804 posts)Jennifer Rubin nailed it. Very perceptive, articulate, analysis from a former Republican.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr.Bill
(24,284 posts)in such a way that I can actually tune out the news for a few days or a week without worrying something disastrous is being done by them. It's been a while since I could do that. I'm tired of a bull in the china shop governing the country.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,205 posts)article!
Thank you, Skya!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and find someone glossy and new to pump up. Elizabeth Warren's currently this primary's most "new" and thus most free of attacks. So far.
This article is a nice change. Also enjoyed the one about media negativism that Highplainsdem posted, Biden camp thinks the media just doesnt get it
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/11/joe-biden-media-2020-1488835
That's a euphemistic way to put massive pack deception. The article puts a lot of blame on the age of many of today's journalists,
I get this question all the time: Why does the press hate him so much? she said. And the answer is because they are younger and they want someone cooler.
and no doubt a lot of truth to that, BUT it'd be the same phenom if Biden were a generation younger and didn't know 'malarkey' was a word because he's the been-there/covered-that-already Democratic front runner and that's how the media roll every national election.
An anomaly of our era is that journalism is, investigatively, the best it's ever been; because pack-wise, it's as small and mean and stupid as it's ever been; and corruption-wise, working to elect one party, every bit as intensely corrupt as at any time in the past. The current battle for power is enormous, and the six giant corporations that own and/or control the vast majority of the MSM are in.
And yet, smart people keep voting Democrat. And most are really glad we have Joe in the race.
Regarding killing of positive coverage, I didn't quickly find a recent study on accuracy in quoting public figures, but a couple from back in the 'oughts revealed then that egregious inaccuracies and active distortions were extremely common. That won't have improved. Want to know what our candidates think, listen to and read their own words. Want to be deceived, let the media tell you what they said and mean.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,218 posts)This is one of the reasons why I think that Joe Biden is the best candidate. Who ever is the nominee will have to be prepared to fix all of the damage that trump has done to our government.
Link to tweet
One of the most underreported stories about the Trump administration is its basic incompetence. Perhaps Trumps biggest con of all was convincing his supporters that he was some sort of business wizard with a genius for management. In truth, the Trump Organization was a mom-and-pop family business that he repeatedly micromanaged to the brink of collapse. He is doing exactly the same with the government of the United States.
The White House itself is less like The West Wing than Game of Thrones. Courtiers vie for the favor of the Mad King, unable or unwilling to perform normal duties for fear of risking Trumps ire. Usually, the White House is a place where information from outside sources is synthesized and digested so the president can make the best possible decisions. Under Trump, the flow is reversed his whims, however ill-informed or contradictory or just plain loopy, are tweeted out and must be made into policy.
Agencies vital to our national security including the Department of Homeland Security and the Federal Emergency Management Agency lumber along, month after month, without permanent leadership. Its easier to make moves when theyre acting, Trump has said, but really the situation reflects his own insecurity. By keeping his underlings weak and beholden only to him, he limits their power and thus hamstrings the departments they nominally lead.
Joe Biden is the best candidate to repair the damage done by trump. I think that the repair of this damage will keep the next Democratic President very busy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden