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Uncle Joe

(58,300 posts)
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 02:46 PM Sep 2019

Krystal Ball touts Sanders odds in Texas



(snip)

Univision just did a big poll of Texas including those general election hypothetical matchups that all of the pollsters have warned you about and here’s what they found. None other than the O.G democratic socialist, Medicare For All championing, class warfare waging Bernie frickin’ Sanders beating Trump by 6 points. That margin was better than any of the other candidates including Mr. “electable” Joe Biden and Mr. Texas-is-my-home-state Julian Castro. Remember, not only is Sanders a self-described democratic socialist but he is also calling to end all subsidies to the fossil fuel industry, ban fracking, and ultimately eliminate fossil fuel use altogether. And this is Texas!

The same poll also looked at the dem primary. Here they found Sanders in 3rd trailing Biden and Beto *but* a deep dive into the demographics revealed why Sanders may be running so surprisingly well in the general election in Texas. He has a secret strength with Latinos. Looking at Latinos nationwide, Sanders has the highest favorability rating of any candidate at an impressive 67%. So it all begs the question: can Bernie Sanders mess with Texas? Sorry. Couldn’t resist.

If there is any state that typifies prototypical “’Murica” where the trucks and the guns are big and the social safety net is oh so small, it’s Texas. And that is precisely the place where we are told Sanders brand of politics should be a complete utter disaster. After all, chamber of commerce type conservatives love nothing more than to opine on the great virtues of Texas. The low taxes, the low regulation, delightfully paired with a low investment in education, health care and really anything else that might be of use to their working-class citizens. Texas is the Reagan republicans dream come alive in America…I mean minus Austin. Ya know, let’s just not talk about those pinko commies in Austin.

(snip)

Now, this is just a start and frankly, it seems like the absolute bare minimum that should be required of the establishment. Because in reality, the fact Sanders could win Texas is proof that FDR style class centric-economic populism is not only just it’s also a winning strategy. And y’all have been standing in the way of progress for far too long.

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https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/460900-krystal-ball-why-wall-street-more-worried-about-elizabeth-warren-than-bernie



I believe 538 has Univision rated with a B.
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Krystal Ball touts Sanders odds in Texas (Original Post) Uncle Joe Sep 2019 OP
"the fact X *could* happen" is the most stretchiest of stretches LanternWaste Sep 2019 #1
This makes me laugh BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #2
As a Texas Democrat, I was amused also Gothmog Sep 2019 #13
Only Biden and Beto will get substantial delegates from TX BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #14
Bernie surpasses VP Biden in NEW New Hampshire poll. bahrbearian Sep 2019 #3
I don't go to Krystal Ball when I want an objective analysis. She's more a comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #4
The polling that I have seen does not support this claim Gothmog Sep 2019 #8
What a shame...nt comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #9
Precisely Me. Sep 2019 #12
Well that settles it then. Everyone else should just go home. MrsCoffee Sep 2019 #5
Buncha malarky onetexan Sep 2019 #6
The Texas polling that I have seen has sanders less than 15% Gothmog Sep 2019 #7
Looks good to me...thx Gothmog Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #10
I really doubt that sanders will be getting many delegates from Texas Gothmog Sep 2019 #11
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
1. "the fact X *could* happen" is the most stretchiest of stretches
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 03:04 PM
Sep 2019
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Gothmog

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13. As a Texas Democrat, I was amused also
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 05:38 PM
Sep 2019
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BlueMississippi

(776 posts)
14. Only Biden and Beto will get substantial delegates from TX
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 05:41 PM
Sep 2019

BS and warren may get a couple from the Austin area.

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bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
3. Bernie surpasses VP Biden in NEW New Hampshire poll.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 03:09 PM
Sep 2019

Bernie surpasses VP Biden in NEW New Hampshire poll.

Bernie - 29%
VP Biden - 21%
Sen. Warren -17%https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/09/11/bernie-sanders-jumps-to-lead-in-nh-franklin-pierce-herald-poll-shows/

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comradebillyboy

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4. I don't go to Krystal Ball when I want an objective analysis. She's more a
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 03:10 PM
Sep 2019

cheerleader than an analyst.

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Gothmog

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8. The polling that I have seen does not support this claim
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 03:30 PM
Sep 2019

Due to the 15% rule, it is likely that sanders will get few if any delegates from Texas

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
12. Precisely
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 05:19 PM
Sep 2019

and shouldn't they come clean and say she's associated with the campaign if she is? She keeps doing articles that don't seem to be on the money and have a lot of caveats.

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MrsCoffee

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5. Well that settles it then. Everyone else should just go home.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 03:15 PM
Sep 2019

Krystal Ball has spoken.



Actually what a fucking moronic list of demands. If anyone was taking her seriously up to that point.... LOL.

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Gothmog

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7. The Texas polling that I have seen has sanders less than 15%
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 03:26 PM
Sep 2019

sanders will not be winning Texas and may get few if any delegates out of Texas due to the 15% rule






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Thekaspervote

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10. Looks good to me...thx Gothmog
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 04:06 PM
Sep 2019
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Gothmog

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11. I really doubt that sanders will be getting many delegates from Texas
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 04:22 PM
Sep 2019
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