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applegrove

(118,622 posts)
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 11:20 PM Sep 2019

Big Donors Watching Kamala Harris In Next Debate

Big Donors Watching Kamala Harris In Next Debate

September 11, 2019 at 10:48 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard1 Comment

https://politicalwire.com/2019/09/11/big-donors-watching-kamala-harris-in-next-debate/

"SNIP......

“Sen. Kamala Harris’ top donors, including those who have contributed or opened their networks to her, are privately acknowledging that if she doesn’t perform well on Thursday, she could start losing the support of wealthy financiers,” CNBC reports.

“In discussions with donors and those close to lead financiers, there is a growing consensus that the California lawmaker needs to have a strong outing against the nine other contenders if she wants to maintain an alliance with many big money donors that have donated to multiple campaigns, including hers.”

......SNIP"

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Big Donors Watching Kamala Harris In Next Debate (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2019 OP
Thing about Kamala is she is electric in person or small groups. She's applegrove Sep 2019 #1
media 'translates these candidates to a large audience' bigtree Sep 2019 #4
That's bad. Canada is on an uptick where people of colour members applegrove Sep 2019 #5
Reminds me of a WSJ story last Friday: highplainsdem Sep 2019 #2
Thanks. applegrove Sep 2019 #3
If Kamala wants to beat Joe she needs to fight like she did in the 1st debate. Dems want to beat... JoeOtterbein Sep 2019 #6
+100 And not just Joe. She needs to go after everyone. applegrove Sep 2019 #7
Time for another bump? She can't stand on her own without Cha Sep 2019 #9
Fist bump little thingy... JoeOtterbein Sep 2019 #12
what she did Clearly Hurt HER more than it hurt him. i'm guessing you want her to go after him JI7 Sep 2019 #8
+1! Cha Sep 2019 #10
I'm guessing that you are wrong. JoeOtterbein Sep 2019 #11
people can disagree but the way she did it hurt HER . you are trying to suggest she do JI7 Sep 2019 #13
Exactly.. the suggestion made Cha Sep 2019 #15
it makes sense if you support another candidate JI7 Sep 2019 #17
That makes Perfect Cha Sep 2019 #20
I think that's a false narrative bigtree Sep 2019 #14
Her emotional ambush left a bitter taste. It was a flawless but misguided "performance." The emmaverybo Sep 2019 #19
media coverage dropped off dramatically after that first debate's fireworks died down bigtree Sep 2019 #23
I think it's the correct "narrative". Cha Sep 2019 #16
Her empathic side, shown in a recent clip talking about her mother, is so much more appealing emmaverybo Sep 2019 #18
her tough side works but only when going after someone like Barr or Trump or other shitty Republican JI7 Sep 2019 #21
Agree. emmaverybo Sep 2019 #22
 

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
1. Thing about Kamala is she is electric in person or small groups. She's
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 11:23 PM
Sep 2019

a fighter. But she has a hard time translating that to a large audience. If you think of it a President isn't making policy or getting bills passed in a large audience. Only in elections does that matter. She would make an excellent president.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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bigtree

(85,986 posts)
4. media 'translates these candidates to a large audience'
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 12:23 AM
Sep 2019

KAMALA'S ALREADY RAISED MORE MONEY THAN THE FRONTRUNNER IN INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS





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applegrove

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5. That's bad. Canada is on an uptick where people of colour members
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 12:41 AM
Sep 2019

of parliament or members of provincial parliament or city counsellirs are concerned.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
6. If Kamala wants to beat Joe she needs to fight like she did in the 1st debate. Dems want to beat...
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 12:53 AM
Sep 2019

...Trump means they want a fighter who can cut Trump down to size. She can prove that she can beat Trump by confronting the front-runner on 9/12.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
7. +100 And not just Joe. She needs to go after everyone.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 12:55 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,154 posts)
9. Time for another bump? She can't stand on her own without
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:12 AM
Sep 2019

trying to tear someone else down?

Reuters/Ipsos poll, Democratic registered voters: Biden 30%, Sanders 19%, Warren 14%, Harris 5%,


Biden was at 36% in May and June, dipped to 28% in July and August, now 30%.

Sanders was at 15, 16, 18, 23, and now 19%.

Warren at 9, 11, 13. 12, and now 14%.

Harris at 9, 8, 13, 7, and now 5%.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=273457
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JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
12. Fist bump little thingy...
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:16 AM
Sep 2019

...I do not know how to do!

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JI7

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8. what she did Clearly Hurt HER more than it hurt him. i'm guessing you want her to go after him
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:06 AM
Sep 2019

in hopes it would help some other candidate .

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JoeOtterbein

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11. I'm guessing that you are wrong.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:14 AM
Sep 2019

In hopes of helping some other candidate. (bak at ya)

It's actually ok with me. It's the Primaries.

This is the time we Dems can actually enjoy disagreements.

Now is the time to get it out of our "system."

Long before November 2020.

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JI7

(89,247 posts)
13. people can disagree but the way she did it hurt HER . you are trying to suggest she do
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:18 AM
Sep 2019

what has hurt her .

other candidates have NOT done what you suggested and they have been doing better .


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Cha

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15. Exactly.. the suggestion made
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:21 AM
Sep 2019

no sense.

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JI7

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17. it makes sense if you support another candidate
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:26 AM
Sep 2019

but you want that candidate to remain in good standing so you suggest someone else do the dirty work of hurting another candidate.

we have seen how negative attacks CAN work in hurt the candidate targeted but at the same time it often hurts the person doing the attack also. and the person that benefits is someone else entirely .

just look at how the poster has not said the person he has been supporting should go after Biden but instead Harris who he hasn't been shown to support.

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Cha

(297,154 posts)
20. That makes Perfect
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:30 AM
Sep 2019

sense to me.

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bigtree

(85,986 posts)
14. I think that's a false narrative
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:19 AM
Sep 2019

...the fact that this relatively unknown black woman could knock the former VP off his perch (for however fleeting) is more of a measure of Biden's weakness, than Kamala's.

No one expected that blip to last, and when it evaporated, a media narrative was born. What they should be asking is why Biden is so easily rolled by a little tiff in a debate.

Looks like everyone is eating into his ratings today:


Chelsea Janes @chelsea_janes
New CNN national poll w trend:

Biden: 24% (-5)
Warren: 18% (+4)
Sanders: 17% (+2)
Harris: 8%. (+3)
Buttigieg: 6% (+1)
O’Rourke: 5% (+2)
Booker: 2% (+0)
Gabbard: 2% (+0)
Yang: 2% (+1)
Bennet: 1% (+1)
Castro: 1% (-1)
De Blasio: 1% (+1)
Steyer: 1% (+1)

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/image

If I were to vote in a presidential
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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
19. Her emotional ambush left a bitter taste. It was a flawless but misguided "performance." The
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:29 AM
Sep 2019

jury was impressed until more evidence came in.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
23. media coverage dropped off dramatically after that first debate's fireworks died down
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:44 AM
Sep 2019

...and that's a more believable and demonstratively valid explanation for the polls than some opinion about a debate tiff that most polled didn't even see or know about.



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Cha

(297,154 posts)
16. I think it's the correct "narrative".
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:23 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
18. Her empathic side, shown in a recent clip talking about her mother, is so much more appealing
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:27 AM
Sep 2019

than her tough prosecutor scorched earth persona. If she wants to be competitive, she needs to show us the qualifications and experience that puts her ahead of others and her own vision for the
country.

I think her capacity for warmth, her work to right injustice, her record in civil rights support, women’s causes, particularly WOC, these are the areas she needs to demonstrate are where she
stands out.

More theatrical tear-down is not the ticket. She used that one up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JI7

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21. her tough side works but only when going after someone like Barr or Trump or other shitty Republican
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:32 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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