***Debate thread #1***

[nolabear]

I might not be able to start threads later but it seems a good idea to be on one place.

“Houston, we have a problem.”

Nice one, Amy!

[OKNancy]

1. Good opening by Amy

Beto good too

[gristy]

2. Beto sounded good

Was in the kitchen... I said to myself, who is this? Beto!

[nolabear]

3. Booker speaking with passion. I can't figure out why he doesn't do better.

[Kahuna7]

14. What are his accomplishments? nt

[nolabear]

67. Fair question.

[aeromanKC]

290. Well, he did help Stanford defeat Notre Dame in football

as a tight end for Stanford. So, there is that.

[barbtries]

64. i really like him

i think he is just overshadowed - it is a crowded field. he's not my number 1 choice.

[underpants]

4. Where's Marianne?

[nolabear]

13. Didn't make the cut.

[underpants]

23. Whaaaat?

The crystals must be out of sequence.

[Funtatlaguy]

15. Didn't meet the criterion.

[underpants]

29. Clearly they criterion where anti-sage rubbing

Dammit.

[stonecutter357]

201. Sage is for burning not rubbing !

[underpants]

240. Typical Biden mentality

[littlemissmartypants]

299. I think the term is smudging. nt

[Blaukraut]

5. Klobuchar started well but lost me with her 'middle of the road' BS

Her shtick is getting old.

[ecstatic]

6. I like Beto's opening. I like Cory's demeanor

but I think it's weird that he would reference his mentor calling him "boy."

Headed to Yang's site now! LMAO!

[barbtries]

7. any hints on free online viewing?

i'll google though, thanks

[nolabear]

9. I think there's a thread pointing to YouTube

[DesertRat]

11. ABCNews.com/live

[McCamy Taylor]

16. YouTube ABC but not on all browsers

[barbtries]

34. got it!

live on youtube


bernie starts every sentence with "let me" doesn't he? he sounds hoarse and under the weather. i wish i didn't miss the others, just saw the tail end of Harris.

[barbtries]

59. this is working for me

i'm streaming it on my Roku TV

[madaboutharry]

83. It is also streaming on ABC on Facebook

[nolabear]

8. Yang is kind of odd. A grand a month to random families?

[Funtatlaguy]

12. Sign me up.

[nolabear]

20. There's a website! Go thou and report back.

[brooklynite]

18. Illegal...

[Lisa0825]

25. +1

[DesertRat]

41. Building a huge campaign email list

[barbtries]

42. i thought it was to all families.

or persons.

[nclib]

210. Yes, that is my understanding.

It would go to everyone.

[barbtries]

259. i missed that part of the debate,

but i think he may have some raffle going on his donation site, separate from the policy.

[nclib]

272. Yes, I missed that part too.

I saw it when I went to twitter.

Mr. nclib was telling me he sees Yang 2020 on the American Tobacco Trail when he goes running while Yang was talking.

[barbtries]

275. my son walks that trail every day to work!

where is the Mr running? And is it a t-shirt or the actual candidate?

[nclib]

276. It's on the ATT in Durham.

He's a runner so he runs all over. I think it's written on the trail itself. He had been talking about seeing "dump frump" (or something like that) written on Cornwallis Rd. in chalk or spray paint.

Good on your son to walk to work. Good exercise.

[barbtries]

277. he's lost at least 30 pounds

since he started this job.

[nclib]

293. Wow. Good for him!

[SharonAnn]

175. There was an interesting article in the NYT a couple years ago about how effective this is.

They did an article about the Cherokees in North Carolina and how much positive effect it had on the families in the tribe to receive some $ from the casino operation. How it helped their families, food, closing, housing costs, education and stabilized families. It made a big difference. Very good article.

What Happens When the Poor Receive a Stipend
https://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/18/what-happens-when-the-poor-receive-a-stipend/

[mtngirl47]

252. I live just outside of Cherokee

The per capita payments to every member of the Tribe has been phenomenal...it has advanced education and health.

That being said...there are people who waste their money on drugs and alcohol. Some people just wait on their 2 checks per year and don't work.

[emmaverybo]

10. Yang following the age-old advice--gotta have a gimmick.

[nolabear]

17. Kamala going for Spanky. Red meat but I'll see what's next.

[ecstatic]

19. LOL! I just entered Yang's sweepstakes. Way to derail the debate!

After signing up, Yang's site asked me for money. lol.

[Funtatlaguy]

21. Liked how Harris talked to Trump.

[nolabear]

24. Warren applauded her, lol!

[Blaukraut]

22. Kamala Harris! That was brilliant! n/t

[McCamy Taylor]

26. Harris has my vote for Attorney General

I want her to deliver the closing remarks to the jury when Trump is tried for his crimes after he leaves office

[nolabear]

32. Good call. I'd go for that.

[nolabear]

27. Bernie's really hoarse.

[BlueMississippi]

208. Who needs a voice when one can wag fingers? nt

[we can do it]

307. 😂

[Blue_true]

278. That might be a good thing for others on stage. nt

[ecstatic]

28. Sounds like Bernie lost his voice. nt

[McCamy Taylor]

30. Did Bernie age overnight? He makes Biden look young.

[LisaM]

84. Ha ha ha.

I think he's looked that way forever.

[Cha]

89. omg.. I'm not watching.. just reading DU.

[BlueMississippi]

212. Botox wears off after a while nt

[gristy]

31. Bernie's yelling again. And has _already_ lost his voice.

[DesertRat]

46. Painful to listen to

[TruckFump]

33. Nice one, Sen Harris!!!

[tishaLA]

35. Hearing his voice makes my throat hurt

It sounded painful

[nolabear]

36. Warren needs new material. I like her a lot but I've heard all this before.

[gristy]

75. Yes. My thought too.

[Blue_true]

281. Yes, I think that she is falling into the Bernie rut.

She is churning out fresh ideas, and that is different from what Bernie does, but her selling points have not changed and it would be good if they did. You can only get so far harping on the evils of Wall Street, most sane people know there are problems there and that of all people, she is the likeliest to attack those problems.

[Jane Austin]

37. What were they all laughing about right before Buttigieg?

Thanks.

[McCamy Taylor]

40. Yang offered to give out free money

[nolabear]

47. That was just weird. Didn't connect well to his program intentions.

[Jane Austin]

144. Thanks for answering.

I appreciate it.

[ecstatic]

38. Strong opening by EW. nt

[McCamy Taylor]

39. Warren is everyone's favorite high school teacher, the one that never left a

student behind. I can picture misogynists (the ones who called Clinton to C and B word) looking at her and saying to themselves "I'll vote for her and prove that I don't hate women."

[nolabear]

43. Glad Joe's talking intentions. He has to check notes but that's cool.

[McCamy Taylor]

44. OMG! Biden looks like a Hollywood president!

[madaboutharry]

68. He looks great tonight.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

76. Robert Culp in "The Pelican Brief"

[Funtatlaguy]

45. Biden had good energy.

[McCamy Taylor]

51. Americans do not like math.

[bdamomma]

80. Joe looks

energized. Not bad.

[ecstatic]

48. Biden is coming out swinging! nt

[McCamy Taylor]

55. Needs more positivism.

Warren has the right idea praising Obama.

[tblue37]

49. Joe's on fire tonight. nt

[tblue37]

107. Go, Kamala! nt

[demmiblue]

50. The senator is for Bernie!?

[nolabear]

52. Hmmmm...going for Warren and Bernie's payment for plans.

Frankly, good strategy.

[Kahuna7]

57. Yep. Even the mint can't print enough money to pay for all the freebies...

they propose.

[SamKnause]

53. Biden is telling a lie.

30 Trillion.

That is a fact checked lie !!!

Bernie admitted that it will cost 30 Trillion over 10 years.

I admit when I am wrong.

[McCamy Taylor]

56. And it is math. Voters do not like math

[OKNancy]

62. Bernie just said it would be 30 trillion

Oops

[SamKnause]

71. As I admitted to in my following post.

[Blue_true]

285. You should put "on edit" before your admission. nt

[SamKnause]

66. Bernie just made me out a liar.

He admitted 30 Trillion.

[CousinIT]

54. They've started out focusing on removing Trump: good

(note, I hate Snuffaluffagus - not the Sesame Street character but the butthead who is one of the moderators of the debate - Stephanapolous)

[nolabear]

58. EW needs to nail down the money issue. "costs" is nebulous.

[brewens]

60. What was that crap Biden babbled about 32 trillion per year? n/t

[Hoyt]

204. Although I think a Public Option is a better approach with so many voters

skeptical of 1 plan, Medicare-for-All, Biden isn’t exactly playing straight with numbers.

Sanders’ $32 trillion is supposedly what we spend in aggregate over 10 years on healthcare, or $3.2 trillion a year. He’s saying that his MFA will cost roughly the same. (I think he’s short a bunch, but that’s a different debate.)

Biden is saying his plan is only $750 Billion a year, but I think he’s leaving out a bunch of employer insurance and out-of-pocket costs.

I do think preserving choice with a Public Option is an easier sale because there are a lot of obtuse and selfish voters out there who can’t see single payer is a more rational healthcare financing system. They won’t be convinced in next year.

[brewens]

218. I heard him say 32 trillion per year, more than the federal budget. Or something real

close to that.

[McCamy Taylor]

61. Bernie for Grumpy Old man

[nolabear]

63. Boy does Bernie need to explain how. Like, a lot.

[elleng]

74. Can't do it, NONE can, hence trying to 'debate' health 'care/' insurance,

NOT a good idea in fora like this.

[hedda_foil]

100. Yup. The current system is projected at $50 million.

[riversedge]

65. Harris has a message for Pres. Trump in her opening statement: "The only reason you were not indicte

Link to tweet

?s=20

Sen. Kamala Harris has a message for Pres. Trump in her opening statement: "The only reason you were not indicted is because there was a memo in the Department of Justice that says a sitting president cannot be charged with a crime." https://abcn.ws/DemDebate

Link to tweet

?s=20


Democratic debate live updates: Candidates launch opening statements


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democrats-gear-abc-news-debate-houston-front-runners/story?id=65390001

8:17 p.m.: The top four candidates also give opening statements

California Sen. Kamala Harris targets President Donald Trump: "But here's what you don't get. What you don't get you is that the American people are so much better than this. And we know that the vast majority of us have so much more in common than what separates us, regardless of our race, where we live or the party with which we're registered to vote ... And now, President Trump, you can go back to watching Fox News."

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., pitched his long-standing message of fundamental economic change to benefit the country's working class: "It goes without saying that we must and will defeat Trump, the most dangerous president in the history of this country. But we must do more. We must do more. We have got to recognize that this country is moving into a form of society where a handful of billionaires control the economic and political life of this country."

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., talks up her Houston roots before touting why she should be at the top of the ticket: "I got my big opportunity about a half mile down the road from here at the University of Houston, back when it cost $50 a semester ... I know what's broken, I know how to fix it and I'm going to lead."

[nolabear]

69. DAMN, Joe. He's on fire!

[McCamy Taylor]

70. The triumvirate on the screen is Biden/Harris/Sanders.

This is a long way from a three man race.

[calguy]

72. I'm going to watch later on DVR.

This is football night. Have to watch the game first and the debates later.We all have our priorities.

[Funtatlaguy]

78. Bucs vs Panthers. Meh.

[calguy]

94. I know

But I'm an addict. If the game is shitty I'll be switching over to the debates.

[Funtatlaguy]

73. Too much time spent on Medicare for all. Move on.

[ecstatic]

77. I'm trying, but not sure I can listen to that hoarse voice

all night. It's like nails on a chalkboard!

[Funtatlaguy]

82. He needs a lozenge.

[BlueMississippi]

250. He needs to drop out of the race nt

[frazzled]

245. We have a designated "Bernie Button" on our remote

Otherwise known as “mute.” My spouse is in charge of it tonight, and is getting a workout. It’s a medical issue: he’s supposed to avoid stress, and that yelling is very stress inducing.

[BlueMississippi]

253. lol nt

[ecstatic]

261. lol! Yes, that's exactly what it is for me.

Stress inducing. I don't know why I'm so easily agitated lately.

[McCamy Taylor]

79. No, Bernie! Not math! He is correct, but this will not win hearts and minds

in the US.

[hlthe2b]

81. Bernie keeps YELLING AT ME!

[McCamy Taylor]

85. ROFLMAO

[SCVDem]

220. His posture is bad

and if he keeps talking with so many gestures, he should learn to sign.

[BlueMississippi]

258. He has spondylitis and a stoop nt

[ecstatic]

86. omg! Amy K slaughtered Sanders just now! nt

[Funtatlaguy]

93. Best ever seen Amy.

[madaboutharry]

87. I really like Amy Klobuchar.

I know that many here think she is too moderate. But she is smart and grounded and seems so steady.

[redstateblues]

115. She makes sense. She is a pragmatist who can get things done. I like her a lot

I wish she was doing better.

[dflprincess]

287. That's true

Amy will never do anything to rock the boat.

[Thekaspervote]

295. Oh she is.. and I love that about her. Genuine and sincere

[grantcart]

304. She is my choice for VP

[nolabear]

88. Whoee! Amy comes for Bernie! And does well!

Man this is interesting. I love politics when I’m not scared shitless. 😄

[CousinIT]

90. Amy is NAILING it.

She's impressive.

[ecstatic]

91. Pete makes a good point: Trust voters! nt

[BigBearJohn]

231. Did we trust the voters who voted for Trump?

[ecstatic]

241. lol! Fair enough. nt

[not_the_one]

303. the voters voted almost three million

more for Hillary.

So yeah, trust the voters.

DON'T trust a rigged summary where the one person = one vote is thrown out the window to purposely allow some votes to count more than others.

[wasupaloopa]

92. Warren is wrong. Doctors will have to bill someone. You cannot have healthcard without

administration costs.

[McCamy Taylor]

103. Medicare's administration costs are lower.

However the true savings from cradle to grave single payer is that there is a financial incentive to invest in disease prevention. That is why western Europe is healthier and spends less per person per year. But this is way too advanced health policy for a Democratic debate.

[wasupaloopa]

165. You don't know that. Disease prevention or cures need reaserch. Phara does that now.

What Bernie and Warren are doing is offering pie in the sky. No proof of anything they say and their supporters buy into anything they say.

Any of us can put together a health care wish list. Figuring out the nuts and bolts takes experts and knowledge of
the system.

[blm]

248. What are the costs for insurance industry profits?

BTW, have you actually read a comprehensive bio of Warren?

She has studied for many years the costs of medical care on companies and consumers and is considered an expert on the economics of medical care and its impact on personal finances. Well, she WAS until she ran for president, now she’s smeared as being a fantasist.

[wasupaloopa]

269. No one has explained how M4A can be implemented.

How do we go from what we have to M4A. Simplistic answers to that question is all we have.

Warren may be expert but she hasn’t told us how it works, how it is paid for, what do we pay, what changes will providers have to accept.

Nobody knows what M4A is not even Warren!

We know what the ACA is and what a public option is. We almost had both. We almost had universal affordable health care. The fastest way to get there is not in dreaming up some fantasy that can’t get through Congress.

[Thekaspervote]

296. This!!

[blm]

206. ✔️

[yellowdogintexas]

242. Medicare (traditional Part B) has the lowest cost per claim

in the industry. There is a small overhead built into the budget to allow for rent increases, employee raises etc. (no obscene CEO and upper management salaries)
It also has the lowest error percentage and the fastest turnaround time, which result in high user satisfaction (both patients and providers). While the reimbursement rates to physicians are lower as compared to other insurances, the Medicare payments are dependable and because of the low error percentages, very few appeals are needed.

Medicare has focused more on preventative services than in the early days. When I was a clailms examiner for Part B, routine care was not covered, flu shots were not covered, etc. The only covered preventative services were Pap Smears and screening Mammograms but back then they were subject to deductible. The list of covered preventative care has grown tremendously.

I chose traditional Part B Medicare because it is good in all 50 states and there are no restrictive networks. If I am visiting my sisters in KY or NC or our daughter in AZ I can see a doctor without dealing with out of network cost increases

[grantcart]

305. Claim processing is a minor part of management costs

A lot of costs of Medicare management ( like client enrollment, account management, etc) are actually borne by the SSA.

[Blue_true]

288. I live in a region where Medicare use is big. Retirement Florida.

I went to see a doctor yesterday. The office was bustling with only me and another guy being younger. Doctors offices here are doing just fine with Medicare. That was one of the most complex offices that I have seen, with several receptionists and a billing manager, and a couple of women that were working with existing and new clients on the phone. All told, there must have been 16-17 people employed by that office, on a large building that only it occupied.

[hedda_foil]

119. Not at all what she said.There's a huge difference between insurance profits and administrative cost

[luvtheGWN]

273. Ontario's OHIP admin costs are less than 5%.

Compare that to an American doc's admin costs of nearly 33% - per patient.

That means that on third of the cost of your doctor's visit is going to pay for the salaries of the staff he needs to sort through and contact all the insurance companies to deal with the insurance company you actually have.

And then, you can't totally depend on your insurance company actually willing to pay the doctor.

Your healthcare system (which really isn't a system at all) is one hot mess. And YOU are paying through the nose (and every other orifice) for it.

[HelpImSurrounded]

95. Did Joe just do that?

Bernie: we pay twice as much for every thing as Canada

Joe: This is America

[barbtries]

97. yeah.

does that mean it's okay??

[HelpImSurrounded]

121. Hell no!

If someone hasn’t memed that yet, I will

[YOHABLO]

282. You see, that's the kind of talk I can not tolerate.

[HelpImSurrounded]

283. What do you mean?

[milestogo]

96. The candidates are giving Bernie a lot of opportunities to speak.

I'm liking Bernie better, Biden less.

[nolabear]

102. He's back on his heels.

[Blue_true]

289. Then it is called "give him more rope". nt

[scheming daemons]

98. Somebody get Bernie a Sucrets!

He sounds horrible.

[nolabear]

99. Kamala gives credit. Not a bad approach.

[tarheelsunc]

101. Stop shouting at me, Bernie. eom

[McCamy Taylor]

104. Attorney General Harris keeps her eyes on the prize! Trump is a criminal!

[rurallib]

105. So is Stephanopolous working for the repugs?

"What about the taxes? What about the taxes? What about the taxes? What about the taxes?"

[McCamy Taylor]

114. No, he isn't. ABC/Disney profits when children have enough

disposable income to buy Disney shit. So the Mouse is a Democrat.

[Funtatlaguy]

106. Kamala again goes after Trump. Smart.

[emmaverybo]

108. I guess Sanders and Warren do not realize some folks get vested, earn health coverage for life, and

that employers pay the premium in full plus retirement benefits pay the Medicare fee.And that is for 100 percent coverage including coverage out of country. Many are on group plans that are terrific and carry over in retirement, for affordable costs! They need to get out there and talk to the folks who like their plans.

[Thekaspervote]

297. Indeed!! Married to one who has that, now retired. My daughter and family as well. It's managed

Well, very cost effective and a great gig for keeping top of the line employees

[CentralMass]

302. What percentage of working Americans have that benefit ?

[emmaverybo]

309. I think about fifty percent of Medicare recipients have supplemental insurance they like, at group

rates. My benefits package was through the state, but in education sector. My mom paid 260 a month for Kaiser plus Medicare, all covered, no deductibles, low drug cost. She was in education, too.

I am just saying, if they want to make an honest case, they need to look at retirement benefits. Some of these were union negotiated. It is simply not true that everyone loses coverage through
job loss. Some are vested. I was at 50, though my state no longer vests at the lower years of service.

[madaboutharry]

109. Bernie Sanders sounds 1,000 years old.

It isn't fair, I know. But he looks really old tonight. And standing next to Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren, also in their 70's, really is a contrast.

[YOHABLO]

284. Because being old is really really bad. We don't like old people, they're bad.

[madaboutharry]

286. No, nothing against old people.

Just making an observation about his voice and demeanor.

[Blue_true]

291. Warren is 66 or 67. But I get your point. nt

[Thekaspervote]

298. Elizabeth Warren is 70

[Blue_true]

301. I stand corrected. nt

[Sancho]

110. Go Kamala!!!

No ideas matter if we don't get rid of MF45!

[bdamomma]

176. and McConnell

for damn sure

[extvbroadcaster]

111. Bernie looks kind of wacky

Biden, Warren, Harris look good. Biden seems energized.

[ecstatic]

127. Yeah. Not presidential at all.

Yelling. There's no in between with him.

[Cha]

267. Good to know.. Thank you, extvbroadcaster.

[calimary]

308. That's exactly how he'll be characterized by the bad guys

if, Heaven forbid, he winds up being our nominee. They’ll lambaste him as a socialist, a Communist, a fascist, and some “ists” we never heard of. And he WILL lose. Too many voters who pay little attention will be taken in by that manipulative trick and not vote, or write somebody else in, which will further water-down the shoulder-to-shoulder support we need, en masse.

And nobody understands ignorance and how to take advantage of it like the bad guys do.

He’s too big a turn-off for the mainstream electorate. I WILL vote for him if he’s all we’ve got. After all, as a proud and active Indivisible member, I did take the Indivisible Pledge to vote for whoever the Democrats nominate. But if it’s him I will do so half-heartedly.

[underpants]

113. Joe just called Bernie a socialist.

[DesertRat]

123. Yes he did. More than once.

[redstateblues]

135. Well- he is

[underpants]

149. My wife's observation - Kamala is vetting herself as a VP slot.

She's should be a lock as at least VP.

[OrlandoDem2]

251. I would love love love a Biden/Harris ticket. African-American women are the backbone

of the Democratic Party. She could GOTV of African American women like no other candidate on the stage. They deserve recognition and if Biden were smart he’d select her if he is fortunate enough to win.

[underpants]

263. Totally agree.

That's a lock. We HAVE to get turnout up. That's they whole key.

[emmaverybo]

145. Well, that's what he calls himself. And Biden said Bernie, ironically, believes more in corporations

than he does.

[ecstatic]

116. oh shit! "For a socialist, you sure have a lot more

faith in corporations than I do..."

[milestogo]

138. Funny, I always thought Joe had a lot of faith in corporations.

[Blaukraut]

117. Biden ONLY going after Bernie, but not Warren. Interesting...n/t

[underpants]

122. Just called Bernie a socialist. Kamala seems to be vetting for a VP spot.

[Ilsa]

158. I thought the same thing. nt

[underpants]

188. ✅

[McCamy Taylor]

125. Is Biden really here to swat down Bernie to give the nomination to Warren?

[nolabear]

129. I think he's being smart. Bernie's bleeding right now.

We’ll see if the two engage later.

[Funtatlaguy]

118. Dang. Biden just called Bernie a Socialist. Wow.

[scheming daemons]

130. Bernie calls himself a socialist.

[redstateblues]

140. Always has

[Funtatlaguy]

186. Being fair to Bernie, he is a "Democratic Socialist"

[TwilightZone]

226. He only added the "democratic" part relatively recently.

He's been calling himself a socialist, without the modifier, for decades.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/aug/26/bernie-sanders-socialist-or-democratic-socialist/

[Mr.Bill]

279. Doesn't matter.

Trump will be calling whoever gets nominated a Communist.

[underpants]

132. Yep. My wife's observation- Kamala is vetting herself for a VP slot.

[bdamomma]

197. Warren

would be great if she is chosen.

I like all of them.

[Mr.Bill]

280. Every one on thet stage

is worthy of at least a cabinet position. Any one of them would be better that everyone Trump has appointed.

[nolabear]

120. I didn't even understand that exchange between Joe and Bernie.

[OKNancy]

124. Go Joe

No one can say he’s not strong

[scheming daemons]

126. Bernie is having a bad debate.

Taking on hits from everyone else on stage... and his laryngitis is distracting as hell.

[DrToast]

128. Too much focus on the top candidates

Give everyone a chance to talk.

[tishaLA]

157. Agreed

[Sherman A1]

200. Agreed

The time isn’t near even.

[McCamy Taylor]

131. Love the Texas bashing by Beto!

[gristy]

133. Beto's speaking style and stage presence beats all today I think.

His content isn't too bad either!

[redstateblues]

156. Beto has a bright future

[yellowdogintexas]

266. He could easily be the VP nominee but if not

he is pretty much a shoo in for a Cabinet position if we get a new president.
If I were choosing, he would be Secretary of Veterans Affairs; he speaks of the plight of our veterans with extaordinary passion and eloquence.

Tonight he is much more like the Beto who won the hearts of Texans all across the state. Another 5% voter turnout and he would not be on this stage tonight

[MustLoveBeagles]

262. He's doing very well

A big improvement compared to the first debate.

[riversedge]

134. Warren is every woman when two of her male coworkers get in a dick-measuring contest during a meeti

Elizabeth Warren is every woman when two of her male coworkers get in a dick-measuring contest during a meeting. #DemocraticDebate

Link to tweet

?s=20

[McCamy Taylor]

137. So true!

[barbtries]

136. Beto scores

on the health care question.

now Castro.

[McCamy Taylor]

147. So does Castro. Sadly, O'Rourke/Castro can not fly due to they are

both from Texas. Oh, and bonus points to Castro for accusing Biden of being senile.

[ecstatic]

139. Maybe Amy, Biden, and Pete formed an alliance. nt

[gristy]

141. Terrible. This forgetting BS from Castro.

[nolabear]

151. Castro. But yeah, crappy.

[gristy]

168. fixed!

[Susan Calvin]

189. That was garbage. nt

[hedda_foil]

264. Bad strategy. He just comes across as mean on that attack.

[ecstatic]

142. Castro just lost my support. Not cool. nt

[emmaverybo]

152. He was gettin ugly there. And desperate.

[underpants]

171. Yep. He thought this was home ground and had been off camera from the opening.

Dirty shot.

[nolabear]

143. Damn, Julio. That was low.

[DrToast]

148. I think that was a mistake. The crowd didn't like it.

[McCamy Taylor]

150. And calling Bernie a "socialist" was not low?

[tarheelsunc]

178. Well, he calls himself that, so...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

183. Doesn't Bernie call himself a socialist?

[Jose Garcia]

185. Sanders has proudly called himself a socialist for years

[TwilightZone]

234. Sanders has been calling himself a socialist for decades.

I'm not sure why people keep insisting otherwise.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/aug/26/bernie-sanders-socialist-or-democratic-socialist/

[tishaLA]

146. Castro wielding an axe. Dang.

[underpants]

159. Over the line. He got called on his grandstanding.

[tishaLA]

184. Yeah, it was WAY over the line

I can't believe he went there

[Jirel]

268. Totally appropriate but it'll end him.

Sorry, folks. Love and honor Biden. But he HAS been making horrible blunders, some of them memory related. We need to talk about it - in private - before the GOP turns it into a favorite and unrebuttable talking point. However, this was a crappy time to do it, when the candidates are all stronger by sticking together. That was ugly, and he just effectively ended his candidacy.

[DrToast]

163. Yeah, but I think he missed and hit himself.

[tishaLA]

191. Agreed.

[SamKnause]

153. Horrible debate.

Horrible format.

[gristy]

198. It's ok. My back is to the screen as I read DU.

[Funtatlaguy]

155. More punches thrown here than the NFL game.

[McCamy Taylor]

160. No, Yang! Do not go there!

"I am Asian so I know lots of doctors"....

[Celerity]

192. that was bizarre nt

[Glimmer of Hope]

161. Castro needs to stop.

[nini]

162. Castro just lost any chance of moving on

wow

[Ilsa]

172. Or being selected as a VP. nt

[pangaia]

164. Yang. "I'm Asian so I know a lot of doctors." HUH!!!

[gristy]

173. Yeah, that was weird

[ecstatic]

190. Ridiculous. He is veering into clown territory

at this point.

[madaboutharry]

166. Julian Castro just came off awfully bad, imo.

Starting a food fight isn't going to help anyone.

[underpants]

177. Yep

[OrlandoDem2]

167. I just lost a ton of respect for Castro.nt

[Susan Calvin]

195. Bad move. nt

[Turin_C3PO]

216. What did he say?

I’m not watching right now.

[MustLoveBeagles]

271. I was listening with half an ear

It sounded like he called him senile. Pity. I was starting to like him again.

[Doreen]

169. Why does being Asian

mean you know a lot of doctors?

[Susan Calvin]

203. A joke.

Like an Asian F which is a B. But not a good joke to make in this forum.

[Blue_true]

292. It's a bad joke. Many Doctors today are Indian, Chinese, or Vietnamese.

So Asians are well represented in the profession. My own Doctor is Hispanic, but my choice had nothing to do with race or ethnicity.

[nolabear]

170. "I'm Asian so I know a lot of doctors." ??

Kind of a chuckle I guess but I think Yang and Castro are out as of now.

[HelpImSurrounded]

180. I know right?

I can NOT believe he just said that.

[underthematrix]

174. Oh Dear. To my brother, Julian Castro that was not a good move

on VP Biden. Not good.

[McCamy Taylor]

179. I like Booker but I am not sure America is ready for the shaved head

for POTUS. Presidents usually have lots of hair (or wigs)

[bdamomma]

217. I like him

I wish we can keep all of them and appoint them to Cabinet appts. Mayor Pete hang in there.

[emmaverybo]

181. Everyone paying homage to Obama tonite, even the ones who threw him under the bus last time.

[nolabear]

196. LOL, right? They learn fast at least.

[ecstatic]

214. Yep. They are listening to the pundits who said: Do NOT

attack President Obama and attack trump! Great advice and I'm glad they listened. Some more than others. Some coming across slightly fake, but it's still much better than last time.

[Kahuna7]

235. When I say Obama, you say Biden! Obama! Biden!...

[Cha]

260. This is so Good to hear, emmaverybo!

Thank you!

Last time was bizarre!

[Blaukraut]

182. Yeah, Castro lost any goodwill n/t

[gateley]

193. Downright cruel. nt

[Susan Calvin]

211. Downright stupid. nt

[McCamy Taylor]

187. Thank you for pointing out the elephant in the room--Trump's racism.

[McCamy Taylor]

194. Yes, reparations! Go Beto!

[Sugarcoated]

199. Don't care what Castro has to say from here on out

I'm done with him

[nolabear]

205. I know. He can hear his campaign crashing I'll bet.

[Susan Calvin]

223. Me too. He sure shot himself in the foot. nt

[Cha]

270. Aloha, Sugarcoated.. Did Biden

reply to that?

Mahalo

[McCamy Taylor]

202. I still think if Clinton had run with Castro, she would have won

despite the Russian hacking and dirty tricks.

[StevieM]

221. Russia was nowhere near as big a factor as James Comey was.

The FBI dominated that race from start to finish. And they were never going to let her win.

I personally preferred Tom Vilsack.

[JI7]

228. nope, Castro is not liked in Texas

he is one of those the media is always pushing but doesn't have much real support.

[grantcart]

306. I thought he had promise but turned out to be a lightweight

[emmaverybo]

207. At this juncture, Pete needs to talk about his Frederick Douglass plan.

[elleng]

213. Doing it.

[Blaukraut]

209. Okay. I'm ready for a Warren-Harris ticket right f''ing now n/t

[McCamy Taylor]

215. Warren-Beto with Harris as attorney general

[Blaukraut]

222. Or that. I like all three of them.

[cannabis_flower]

265. Yes!

That's my choice.

[madaboutharry]

219. Mayor Buttigieg sounding like a smart man, of course!

He seems wise beyond his years and has so much to offer to this country.

"Not enough to replace a racist policy with a neutral one."

[McCamy Taylor]

224. He reminds me a bit of Michael Dukakis for those who are old like me.

[elleng]

232. OH NO, can't have a good administrator!

[McCamy Taylor]

247. Americans do not like their politicians too smart

[elleng]

256. sadly

[Blue_true]

294. Same here. Don't know whether that is a good thing. nt

[elleng]

225. ALWAYS sounds like a smart man.

[bdamomma]

229. He really does

he has a lot of promise.

[mia]

227. Buttigieg is always on point.

It's refreshing every time he speaks.

[Funtatlaguy]

230. Black ABC reporter with gotcha ? To Harris - why?

[elleng]

244. Giving her opportunity to explain,

NOT 'gotcha.'

[ecstatic]

255. The russians and others have been targeting black voters with

very negative info about Harris for at least a year or more. Ever since the KKKavanaugh hearings I think.

[IcyPeas]

233. **NEW THREAD PLEASE?**?

[McCamy Taylor]

238. Agree

[nolabear]

236. Warren isn't getting much time here. She needs to step forward.

[McCamy Taylor]

237. Complaining that Harris was "tough on crime" as a prosecutor

is like accusing a veteran of being a "killer"

[Kahuna7]

257. I'm not a Harris fan, but to attack her on law and order is ridiculous. nt

[dweller]

239. i need a #2 ... be right back

I MEAN A THREAD 2 ... jeez


✌🏼

[underpants]

243. You jumped my joke.

💩

[bdamomma]

246. Just

started Thread 2

[nolabear]

249. Thanks!

[TwilightZone]

254. Thread #2 here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287274904

Thanks, bdamomma.

[MustLoveBeagles]

274. I've started another debate thread for anyone interested

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287275109

[IcyPeas]

300. thanks for starting this thread Nolabear