Biden Smacks Down Bernie Sanders For Lecturing Him On Cancer Coverage

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Link to tweet

During Thursday night’s Democratic primary debate, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders tried to say that his health plan is better for those with cancer than Joe Biden’s, and the former VP was having none of it.

Not only did Biden tell Sanders that nobody under his plan would ever go bankrupt if they were diagnosed with cancer, but the former VP reminded the Vermont senator that Medicare for All would take years to implement, while the Biden health care plan would kick in immediately at a lower cost.

“Every single person who is diagnosed with cancer or any other disease can automatically become part of this plan,” Biden said. “And we’re talking 4, 6, 8, 10 years … before we go Medicare for All. Come on!”

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/09/12/biden-bernie-coverage-cancer-health-care.html

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1. KICK!

[BlueMississippi]

2. BS should stick to stuff he knows about

like naming post offices.

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3. Mahalo for the K&R, BlueMississippi

Guess it's too late in the night to discuss this.

[Thekaspervote]

8. Ha!! Good one, and I agree

[snowybirdie]

29. I'm noticing

that very little is being written about Bernie today. He came off as a cranky old man who didn't belong there. Waving his arms, pointing at everyone and yelling loudly is getting old. I especially noticed his eyes would bulge out and face got very red. I feared for his health. No one seems to want to address this.

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37. I didn't see the debate so

appreciate comments from those who did..

Thank you, snowbirdie

[crazytown]

4. ewarren will be delighted to have M4A transformed in a Biden v Bernie debate.

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12. Meanwhile Biden did an excellent job

telling it like it is to BS.

[crazytown]

13. Yes he did.

It's a clever strategy in the Primaries - insulating herself from attacks from the left, while leaving it to BS to defend M4A. The GE will be another story.

[comradebillyboy]

25. Fortunately Biden won't have to defend MFA if he wins the nomination.

Warren will have to defend MFA if she's the nominee however. I think her embrace of MFA will hurt her.

[crazytown]

26. "I think her embrace of MFA will hurt her".

There are a lot of Warren supporters who feel the same way. Including me.

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27. 70% of Americans support Med for All

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43. And, yet..

Link to tweet

[blm]

44. And yet, polls change depending on media attention

We will see.

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46. And, yet.. I know that.

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30. NEW POLL: Biden's health care proposal more popular than Medicare for All

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287273587

[Thekaspervote]

51. Yes.. why would anyone want to give up employee based health care for an unknown?

And right now, m4a is a grand idea without a whole lot else. I agree we need some form of public option but to throw everything out and start over makes no sense

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53. Mahalo, kasper!

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42. I know.. I would think she

would have her own plan instead of BS'.

[CatMor]

5. A plan like Biden's is what the country needs ..

the cost of cancer treatment is astronomical. My son has cancer and with the emotional burden taking it's toll the financial burden bankrupting families should not be added to that.

[emmaverybo]

7. Oh, so sorry. Wishing your son recovery.

[CatMor]

10. Thank you for your thoughts, I appreciate it.

[Thekaspervote]

9. Oh so,sorry!! That's really rough.. hope he's better soon

[CatMor]

11. Than you, I appreciate your thoughts.

[peggysue2]

21. Cancer is an awful disease and you're right

No one should be left carrying the financial burden of bankruptcy because of illness.

Good luck to you and your son. My family has been there, too.

Btw, I agree that Biden's plan is the best direction, particularly for people who need treatment now, in the moment. In the meantime, we can work on getting a handle on costs associated with healthcare services and pharmaceuticals, costs which need to be reduced to make Medicare 4 All or any other universal plan viable. The greatest good for the greatest number is where we start while moving to the ultimate goal that all our candidates now share: healthcare for every American, womb to tomb. We'll get there but it won't be easy or quick.

[CatMor]

32. Thank you Peggysue ...

You are so right about getting the costs for health care and pharmaceuticals down. Every American deserves health care. I can't imagine someone going through cancer with no insurance. The surgery, endless tests and doctor and hospital visits is never ending with something like cancer. One thing everyone should be able to have is a colonoscopy. I can't stress the importance of that enough.
I wish research could come up with a simple test for that.

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22. I wish the very best for

your son, CatMor

[CatMor]

33. Thank you Cha ....

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we have hope.

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36. Good to know!

[emmaverybo]

6. Sick of the damned scare tactics used to sell M4All and the idea that there are no other options

for getting every one covered.

[crazytown]

14. And scare tactics to damn M4A?

M4A would replace Medicare for seniors with something new, something risky?

[emmaverybo]

15. But it would, for seniors who have affordable supplementary insurance plus Medicare. It is an

untested program. Many seniors have retirement benefits packages. Their retirement benefits act like employers who continue to either offer affordable premiums insurance or to pay the premiums.
Those benefits are carried over from employment. With Medicare, they give 100 percent coverage, no deductible, low drug costs.

My mom had Kaiser at 260 per month, everything covered and group drug rates. I have benefits that pay my Medicare fee and the premium for a PPO insurance in addition, in full.

If Sanders and Warren are to make a good case, they need to see why some like their plans, not just their doctors.

PS. Neither mom nor I had high paying jobs. Instead, we had good benefits. Fairly, I will pay more
taxes to see others covered. But heck no, I don’t want to give up my plan. It even provides for out of country emergency and urgent care.

The only other large scale fed healthcare program I know of as tested is the V.A. Great sometimes for some, terrible sometimes for others.

And Bernie, NHS is not a good sales model for comparison.

[crazytown]

16. So is scaring Seniors acceptable -

they are going to take away your Medicare and replace it with something untested?

[emmaverybo]

18. M4All is untested.

[wellst0nev0ter]

23. So was Obamacare

[emmaverybo]

24. Not nearly as huge an undertaking and yet look what political capital it took. The VA system would

be a better comparison.

[wellst0nev0ter]

34. Then go for broke instead of going halfway

and it's not true that M4A is "untested" just look at every sane country with universal health coverage.

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50. I don't care if it's "untested" or not.

The majority like Biden's plan and I can see why.

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52. "Go for broke"? Sorry, Dems want to win in 2020. They'd rather

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not risk losing the General Election with a candidate unconditionally wed to M4A.

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48. Yeah, and there's

a lot of people who don't want to lose their private insurance.. Those are facts not "scare tactics".

Thank you!

[Kahuna7]

17. C'Mon!

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39. lol! Sign of the times!

Mahalo, Kahuna!

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19. Joe's ready and America's ready for Joe.

Thanks for the video Cha.

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41. You're Welcome, oasis..

Mahalo to you!

[Scurrilous]

20. K&R

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47. Thank you, Scurrilous..

[NYMinute]

28. Biden was sharp and BS was befuddled nt

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49. Thank you for

that report!

[bloom]

31. With Biden's idea - anyone could wait until they were sick and then join up

At least that is how it sounded to me.

And no - that would not work because why would anyone bother with paying for insurance if they could get catastrophic coverage for free whenver they needed it.

That is why it makes sense for the money that people are paying NOW into insurance go into a M4All fund.

The other thing that MFAll does is that it relieves doctors from having to deal with insurance - which is costly.

There are possible problems with M4All - esp. in this country if we get people in charge who want to shortchange the coverage / medical care that people get. But that is not the argument that people who are against it make.

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35. Biden's plan works and is more popular..

I don't want mfa.

[betsuni]

38. "RomneyCare" was successful. When the ACA is funded, it works and is popular.

A single payer system was attempted in Vermont and only lasted a few years before being abandoned. And I believe single payer health care couldn't get enough votes in California.

It's clear to me what's the best way. Add a public option, make Medicare available at age 55, add other things to the ACA. Who cares about slogans.

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40. Kick

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45. Mahalo, oasis!