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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 11:18 PM Sep 2019

It's so obvious that any woman or man on that stage tonight would make an infinitely better

president than Trump. So since I would take any of them perhaps I should concentrate on supporting whoever has the best chance of beating Trump. l haven't yet decided on who I think that person is, but when I decide that is I where I will offer my support.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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It's so obvious that any woman or man on that stage tonight would make an infinitely better (Original Post) totodeinhere Sep 2019 OP
Agreed. TDale313 Sep 2019 #1
Agree. But I don't think we did anything to ensure a landslide in 2020. Hoyt Sep 2019 #2
Recent polls show the top 3-5 beating Trump bigbrother05 Sep 2019 #3
National polls. Amimnoch Sep 2019 #4
It's not so obvious that everyone on stage can win an Election to become President... brooklynite Sep 2019 #5
Hell, the custodian who swept the floor after the debate would be better LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2019 #6
They may all be better than Trump but they are by no measure equals. comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #7
A cardboard box Sherman A1 Sep 2019 #8
i like Warren but am waiting to donate to the actual candidate! demigoddess Sep 2019 #9
The Senate ought to be the focus treestar Sep 2019 #10
Unless what is claimed to be so "obvious" translates into an electoral victory, elocs Sep 2019 #11
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Agree. But I don't think we did anything to ensure a landslide in 2020.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 11:57 PM
Sep 2019

I think it will look better to that 3 to 5% of voters who might swing Democratic in 2020 when we are down to just a few candidates. Those are the folks who will determine if GOPers lose in GE.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
3. Recent polls show the top 3-5 beating Trump
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 10:58 AM
Sep 2019

Margins are closer the farther down the list, but the top tier are not too far apart right now to think there is a clear winner at this time.

HRC looked like the sure winner at this point in 2008, particularly with Black voters, so there's no way to see what will come about before the first contests early next year.

My view is to look to the proposals/policies and temperament to get a comfort level going into the primaries.

Our success in Nov 2020 is as dependent on folks like you and me getting involved locally as it does on picking a particular politician right now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
4. National polls.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:03 AM
Sep 2019

We've really got to start focusing less on those. We already know, all too painfully, that our candidates can win the popular vote.. by a large margin, and still lose the presidency.

Battleground match-up polls are the ones that we have to focus on:
Vs Trump in Pennsylvania
Vs Trump in Wisconsin
Vs Trump in Ohio
Vs Trump in Michigan
Vs Trump in Arizona
Vs Trump in Florida

Was REALLY hoping to see Vs Trump in Texas, Georgia, and North Carolina come into battleground territory, but the more this season goes on the less I'm feeling that's going to happen.

What matters to those voters.. that is what will either give us progress or 4 more years of disaster.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
5. It's not so obvious that everyone on stage can win an Election to become President...
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 01:25 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 
6. Hell, the custodian who swept the floor after the debate would be better
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 10:57 PM
Sep 2019

than the president we have. And smarter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,143 posts)
7. They may all be better than Trump but they are by no measure equals.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 12:42 AM
Sep 2019

Some are vastly more qualified than others.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
8. A cardboard box
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:12 AM
Sep 2019

Would be better than Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
9. i like Warren but am waiting to donate to the actual candidate!
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 03:36 PM
Sep 2019

we all should donate then.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
10. The Senate ought to be the focus
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 03:52 PM
Sep 2019

That's the roadblock for every man and woman on the stage too.

As usual, we obsess about the Presidency as if that's enough. I remember the "disappointment" in Obama that went on throughout his Presidency. Regardless of what Congress looked like. Even when it's both houses with a Dem. majority, it doesn't produce most of the policies desired.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

elocs

(22,567 posts)
11. Unless what is claimed to be so "obvious" translates into an electoral victory,
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 07:04 PM
Sep 2019

it doesn't mean anything.
How many people on the Left in WI, MI, and PA who normally vote Democratic believed the polls there that Clinton would win and so that freed them to vote for a 3rd party or not vote at all because they bought the Big Lie that there was no difference between Clinton and Trump?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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