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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

elocs

(22,569 posts)
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:35 AM Sep 2019

If Biden & his supporters think that there are those being tough & unfair to him now,

this will look like a Sunday school picnic compared to how hard and nasty Trump will come after him if Biden gets the nomination.
Trump will mock him and ridicule him, come after him and his family, both living and dead. Trump will goad him into playing his game because he is very, very good at it.
So Biden may as well get toughened up in taking some shots now because they will be love taps compared to what Trump will do.

So we all had better be ready to get out and support and vote for Biden if he is the nominee because this will be a street fight.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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If Biden & his supporters think that there are those being tough & unfair to him now, (Original Post) elocs Sep 2019 OP
Dotard has no grounds for attack treestar Sep 2019 #1
That doesn't matter to him. we can do it Sep 2019 #2
Since when has that ever stopped him? Blaukraut Sep 2019 #4
No but his hypocrisy would be obvious treestar Sep 2019 #5
The agenda will be set by the media by chasing the shiny objects Trump tosses at them Blaukraut Sep 2019 #10
Attack the Dotard treestar Sep 2019 #16
Obvious to whom? SergeStorms Sep 2019 #21
It won't matter who our nominee is, that is exactly what will happen still_one Sep 2019 #27
That's his favorite strategy of distraction TheRealNorth Sep 2019 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #3
Vice President ran on the prez ticket with President Obama TWICE. underthematrix Sep 2019 #6
Which is exactly why I didn't watch last night's debate or the coverage. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #12
Trump will do that to whoever the nominee is. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #8
I'm not so sure. vsrazdem Sep 2019 #24
Trump's act has worn thin and this isn't Biden's first foray into politics. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #9
Mark My Word. Trump Won't Step on the Debate Stage Regardless Who the Dem Nominee is. Indykatie Sep 2019 #28
Castro comitted political suicide... TrunKated Sep 2019 #11
Biden is not the one whining about how mean the press is to him. comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #13
+1000000000000 treestar Sep 2019 #17
How many political campaigns has Biden run? BlueIdaho Sep 2019 #14
Biden has experience debating crazies treestar Sep 2019 #18
Hah! Great point. BlueIdaho Sep 2019 #19
Biden is tough enough - he handled the attacks last night (and previously) very well and... George II Sep 2019 #15
It isn't Biden complaining. The backlash to Castro is coming from those who saw it hlthe2b Sep 2019 #20
This is my impression too. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #26
Forty years ago SCVDem Sep 2019 #22
It's not about 40 yrs. ago. He suggested black families didn't know how to raise their kids floppyboo Sep 2019 #23
I thought that was pretty condescending. I was shocked he said that. vsrazdem Sep 2019 #25
That is a whirlwind spin only touted by BS supporters. nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #32
Let's just say CDerekGo Sep 2019 #29
I'm not supporting anyone yet, but I've kind of scratched Booker off the list. Vinca Sep 2019 #30
"Tough" had nothing to do with Castro's Cha Sep 2019 #31
Joe knows better than anyone what to expect. Your concern.. Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Sep 2019 #35
Touchy touchy. Don't get mad at me because you assume Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #36
Nah, I don't get mad at condescending people, elocs Sep 2019 #38
Oh good. Neither do I. You were condescending about Biden. nt Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #39
Well, one would think fellow Democrats would be a bit more civil and fair than Trump and his goons. honest.abe Sep 2019 #34
Biden took his shots and still standing tall DIVINEprividence Sep 2019 #37
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
1. Dotard has no grounds for attack
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:36 AM
Sep 2019

that can't be applied to him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

we can do it

(12,184 posts)
2. That doesn't matter to him.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:39 AM
Sep 2019

Baseless lies are an every day occurrence with that asshole.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
4. Since when has that ever stopped him?
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:40 AM
Sep 2019

He will, with no sense of irony, attack Biden and anyone else by projecting his own shortcomings on them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
5. No but his hypocrisy would be obvious
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:41 AM
Sep 2019

Why let him set the agenda because he is shameless?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
10. The agenda will be set by the media by chasing the shiny objects Trump tosses at them
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:48 AM
Sep 2019

So our eventual nominee has to be able to counter the noise. I'm not sure ignoring Trump's attacks and sticking to the issues only will work.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
16. Attack the Dotard
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:59 AM
Sep 2019

immediately, by pointing out he cannot use that line of attack as he is guilty.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
21. Obvious to whom?
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:06 PM
Sep 2019

It would be obvious to democrats only, because republicans don't care. Republicans are incapable of feeling hypocrisy, compassion, empathy etc. Those feelings have been replaced by avarice and hate. Republicans have de-evolved to the point where their reptilian brain has taken over every aspect of their lives.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,185 posts)
27. It won't matter who our nominee is, that is exactly what will happen
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 01:10 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
7. That's his favorite strategy of distraction
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:44 AM
Sep 2019

He attacks others on the weaknesses he has.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to elocs (Original post)

 

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
6. Vice President ran on the prez ticket with President Obama TWICE.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:41 AM
Sep 2019

There's no way any Biden supporter thinks the media is being unfair. The MSM treats elections and our government like performance art. The issue is not the media. It's us. When the media goes there I just change the channel because I have that power. If we want to change the conversation we have to change the channel.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
12. Which is exactly why I didn't watch last night's debate or the coverage.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:50 AM
Sep 2019
The issue is not the media. It's us. When the media goes there I just change the channel because I have that power. If we want to change the conversation we have to change the channel.


I was fed up with it being pitched as some showdown between Warren and Biden.

Apparently it was moderated much better than the previous debates, but I still don't really regret doing something else with my evening. My vote isn't going to change based upon a debate performance.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
8. Trump will do that to whoever the nominee is.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:46 AM
Sep 2019

We know it. They know it. I'm sure they all expect it and are ready for it. This certainly isn't Biden's first rodeo; I'm sure he knows exactly what's coming and doesn't need any toughening up. I'm quite confident he can handle Trump's playground insults and name-calling.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
9. Trump's act has worn thin and this isn't Biden's first foray into politics.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:47 AM
Sep 2019

I think he'll be able to handle a moron who apparently thinks the Continental Army seized airports in the 1770s.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Indykatie

(3,696 posts)
28. Mark My Word. Trump Won't Step on the Debate Stage Regardless Who the Dem Nominee is.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 01:22 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TrunKated

(210 posts)
11. Castro comitted political suicide...
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:48 AM
Sep 2019

In my eyes.

Policy differences are one thing.

Obvious dispicable lies are another.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,144 posts)
13. Biden is not the one whining about how mean the press is to him.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:51 AM
Sep 2019

Some of his supporters complain but supporters are usually defensive of their candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. +1000000000000
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:00 PM
Sep 2019

Dotard is the whiner - even Faux Noise doesn't please him now!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
14. How many political campaigns has Biden run?
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:55 AM
Sep 2019

Plenty. I doubt Trumpsky scares him. I don’t think the press bothers him. As for supporters, I really think they don’t want to see fellow Democrats hand the GOP any ammunition.

Personally, I think it’s a terrible idea for any Democratic candidate to receive a load of friendly fire. I see no value in gotcha bullshit zingers or prolonged personal attacks - regardless of the candidate. I want to know who has the best chance of beating that tyrant in the White House. Not who can throw the most dirt at fellow Democrats in a vain attempt to crawl to the top of the heap.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
18. Biden has experience debating crazies
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:01 PM
Sep 2019

He debated Palin!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
19. Hah! Great point.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:03 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. Biden is tough enough - he handled the attacks last night (and previously) very well and...
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 11:55 AM
Sep 2019

....most importantly, diplomatically.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
20. It isn't Biden complaining. The backlash to Castro is coming from those who saw it
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:05 PM
Sep 2019

and are appalled at this tactic from a fellow Democrat, not to mention the failure to recognize his mistake. That includes both supporters and non-supporters. Castro's tactic was one we'd expect from Trump, so there is that if you think Biden isn't prepared for what is coming.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
26. This is my impression too.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:52 PM
Sep 2019

Looks to me like Joe Biden CAN take it. What Castro did he did to himself, so far as I can tell.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
22. Forty years ago
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:08 PM
Sep 2019

Most of the candidates were either in diapers or in elementary school.

That's what makes the question of racial decisions made while a junior senator in a different world a little unfair.

Nobody on that stage has a resume like Joe. The important part is the willingness to adapt to a changing world.

Joe connects with people.

tRump won't hit him on that because of the mirror effect. He has a long history with NO willingness to adapt.

I trust Joe Biden can take down tRump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
23. It's not about 40 yrs. ago. He suggested black families didn't know how to raise their kids
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:25 PM
Sep 2019

and that the state should show them how. Now, being sensitive to the whole Residential School thing and re-education of Indigenous people, this is a super big deal.

He didn't say that 40 years ago - he said it yesterday.

In his reply to a question on slavery:
"We bring social workers in to homes and parents to help them deal with how to raise their children. It’s not want [that?] they don’t want to help. They don’t ― they don’t know quite what to do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
25. I thought that was pretty condescending. I was shocked he said that.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:47 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
32. That is a whirlwind spin only touted by BS supporters. nt
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 05:51 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CDerekGo

(507 posts)
29. Let's just say
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 01:47 PM
Sep 2019

That I certainly hope should Biden get the nomination, and trump comes after his with his nasty ways, that Biden comes back and comes back HARD! That was one of the ways I truly believe Hillary maybe should've gone after trump. Yes, politics is a dirty business, and one we'd all love to see 'cleaned' up, but trump has certainly dragged it out of the gutter, into the MUD PIT!

When I see someone as with no qualifications, who has a history like trump, and now that Democrats can even load Epstein association along with trump, NO ONE, no matter who gets the Democratic Nomination should NEVER let any of the Republicans forget what a lying POS this man is. And for that matter, bring his whole family into the matter. They've let this whole thing skate way too long. Dump the kid gloves, it's time for bare knuckles with this low-life. As well, keep reminding the Media every chance they get what a lying, low-life, traitorous, orange shitler we have in the White House.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
30. I'm not supporting anyone yet, but I've kind of scratched Booker off the list.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 02:02 PM
Sep 2019

We're trying to get rid of a bully not install a new one. As for Castro, he owes Joe an apology. He badgered him to make a point about Joe's age while at the same time becoming completely confused about what had been said himself.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,180 posts)
31. "Tough" had nothing to do with Castro's
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 05:48 PM
Sep 2019

disingenuous big gotcha that had nothing to do with reality.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
33. Joe knows better than anyone what to expect. Your concern..
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 05:54 PM
Sep 2019

is duly noted.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #33)

 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
36. Touchy touchy. Don't get mad at me because you assume
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 06:39 PM
Sep 2019

that someone who has been in politics for 45 years wouldn't be prepared for trump. I don't even know what the purpose of directing that caution to Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

elocs

(22,569 posts)
38. Nah, I don't get mad at condescending people,
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 07:25 PM
Sep 2019

I just put them on ignore.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
39. Oh good. Neither do I. You were condescending about Biden. nt
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 08:26 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
34. Well, one would think fellow Democrats would be a bit more civil and fair than Trump and his goons.
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 05:55 PM
Sep 2019

Its starting to remind me of how some Democrats criticized Hillary. Those comments hurt her in the general. I think many stayed home thinking Hillary was no better than Trump. Lets hope that doesnt happen with our nominee this election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DIVINEprividence

(443 posts)
37. Biden took his shots and still standing tall
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 06:42 PM
Sep 2019

I 100% agree, Biden has to earn it. And far as I can see he is right there in the arena doing just that. Most of the candidates had a good showing I thought.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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