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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 04:41 PM Sep 2019

MSNBC's Joy Reid is getting desperate, pushing for Joe to leave race. She's getting lots of backlash

Joy has her favorite candidate so she is making a last ditch effort. The thing is, this latest move is backfiring on her. When will they ever learn?

The twitter comments say it all...




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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MSNBC's Joy Reid is getting desperate, pushing for Joe to leave race. She's getting lots of backlash (Original Post) Skya Rhen Sep 2019 OP
i turn off MSNBC when Joy and Steve KORNACKI COME ON trueblue2007 Sep 2019 #1
I read "three pages" of comments on her twitter feed--She's getting scorched. hlthe2b Sep 2019 #2
Here's one.. so far the replies are dead on! Cha Sep 2019 #47
Pretty darned spot-on. hlthe2b Sep 2019 #59
"I'm seriously pissed off that Democrats are eating their own. Now let me attack some Democrats." Clash City Rocker Sep 2019 #71
I LOOOOVE Joy, but, I agree, cilla4progress Sep 2019 #3
Yeah, it's a good thing because this desperate move is causing people to coalesce around Joe. BTW Skya Rhen Sep 2019 #8
Nobody's "coalescing around Joe" because of anything Joy Reid says EffieBlack Sep 2019 #25
Joy's bashing Biden sure is making a lot of people stand up for him.. Cha Sep 2019 #48
Noticed Reid's only one among many pushing this theme at once. Hortensis Sep 2019 #58
Great post. Thanks wiley Sep 2019 #80
Actually, I think it is Harris she wants most, Big Blue Marble Sep 2019 #9
Definitely; I saw her one night treestar Sep 2019 #87
Believe she favors Harris by other comments on her show FloridaBlues Sep 2019 #41
She had a wonderful segment with cilla4progress Sep 2019 #46
You love her homophobia? redstateblues Sep 2019 #72
If she believes in Warren, you would think she'd believe Warren can earn the support needed to emmaverybo Sep 2019 #76
Joy lost me awhile ago. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #4
She lost me when she lied and said her account had been hacked. cwydro Sep 2019 #64
Wow, I haven't been supporting Biden but this makes me want to. Quixote1818 Sep 2019 #5
Reid isn't calling for Biden to leave the race. She interviewed someone... Garrett78 Sep 2019 #6
She is pushing this narrative by making this a centerpiece of her show. Everyone knows what she is Skya Rhen Sep 2019 #10
Right back atcha ... EffieBlack Sep 2019 #12
Biden's response is newsworthy and Reid is hardly the only one who thinks so. Garrett78 Sep 2019 #19
Good. Keep calling her out on her crap wiley Sep 2019 #81
IKR? EffieBlack Sep 2019 #11
Sure, Biden made a racist and ignorant comment, as he has numerous times before. But... Garrett78 Sep 2019 #20
The question was not a simple answer for a debate format, and Biden tried to answer still_one Sep 2019 #30
He was quoted as saying we bear no responsibility for the sins of the past and was then asked... Garrett78 Sep 2019 #35
Obviously you choose to ignore what I wrote, or all that question entails still_one Sep 2019 #38
There are many ways to address the legacy of slavery question. Garrett78 Sep 2019 #43
Me too. cilla4progress Sep 2019 #44
Biden was quoted as saying we bear no responsibility for the sins of the past and was then asked... Garrett78 Sep 2019 #45
Every election the Democratic frontrunner is found Hortensis Sep 2019 #61
Putin and Trump surrogates are prepared to use Biden's racist comments... Garrett78 Sep 2019 #62
I didn't mean to pull the bad string, Garrett. Hortensis Sep 2019 #63
I haven't called for him to drop out, but I don't buy the premise of a certain narrative. Garrett78 Sep 2019 #66
You may notice I'm "undecided." The frontrunner at the end is the Hortensis Sep 2019 #68
This. This. This. Scary. This. emmaverybo Sep 2019 #77
Drama! wiley Sep 2019 #90
Whatever it is it's Backfiring. Cha Sep 2019 #49
LOL at Jayne's hypocrisy. Garrett78 Sep 2019 #55
It's Backfiring. Cha Sep 2019 #57
Anand Giridharadas was her guest... JaneQPublic Sep 2019 #67
And those characterizing it that way know that. They know their characterization is bullshit. Garrett78 Sep 2019 #69
Yep. JaneQPublic Sep 2019 #70
Granted. He is a racist asshole on the Dinesh Joseph D'Souza level wiley Sep 2019 #88
But there is no doubt that is what she wants treestar Sep 2019 #86
Can't stand Joy Reid as she has become a huge Joe Biden underminer and democratisphere Sep 2019 #7
I'm one of the ones in that thread doing the "scorching" OKNancy Sep 2019 #13
Me too. nt Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #29
Me three! OhZone Sep 2019 #32
Me too Green Line Sep 2019 #37
Me too FloridaBlues Sep 2019 #42
Good for you.. I haven't gotten there Yet! Cha Sep 2019 #50
I just wrote to MSNBC to drop Joy Reid BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #14
Lots of people are calling for a boycott. Big fail for Joy. Skya Rhen Sep 2019 #16
She is MSNBC's version of Sean Hannity nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #17
I agree. democratisphere Sep 2019 #22
no she isn't, and I am NOT a fan of Joy Reid either. still_one Sep 2019 #84
Agreed wiley Sep 2019 #89
why ? most of msnbc is against Biden and it hasn't hurt him at all JI7 Sep 2019 #23
What is the address of MSNBC. I want them to drop her. She has zero credibility redstateblues Sep 2019 #73
Here BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #78
I like Joy but Love Joe! WA-03 Democrat Sep 2019 #15
Anti-gang Joy Reid? That Joy? Drunken Irishman Sep 2019 #18
Here's how this works. Miles Archer Sep 2019 #21
That's funny, I find myself just watching Ari now. dem4decades Sep 2019 #24
I feel bad too because on the same morning Trump calls her out OKNancy Sep 2019 #26
Not content with twitter, she posted the same thing on facebook and... Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #27
I so appreciate Reid is getting called out.. Cha Sep 2019 #52
Joy lost me a long time ago. n/t TDale313 Sep 2019 #28
After Joy's gay bigotry, in my view, she has little credibility still_one Sep 2019 #31
Exactly OhZone Sep 2019 #33
Good! I hope it blows up in her face... we've seen this b4 with her. No apologies, just excuses Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #34
Joy Reid can push that line all she wants peggysue2 Sep 2019 #36
Nope. Hope she's enjoying the backlash. Cha Sep 2019 #53
joy reid..lol evertonfc Sep 2019 #39
Why would she promote this type of divide we have enough of it daily with trump and company FloridaBlues Sep 2019 #40
Whether or not they support him, people love Joe Biden. Chemisse Sep 2019 #51
Solid point, Chemisse.. she may be learning this the hard way.. Cha Sep 2019 #54
Who's her candidate? Kurt V. Sep 2019 #56
Kamala Harris obnoxiousdrunk Sep 2019 #60
She posted a "question" on FB asking if he should drop out. She got an earful! nolabear Sep 2019 #65
Good to know.. Thanks, Nola! Cha Sep 2019 #74
SOMEBODY's definitely getting desperate. But it's not Joy Reid ... EffieBlack Sep 2019 #75
+1 jcgoldie Sep 2019 #79
Well it's not Skya, either, then.. Reid is the Cha Sep 2019 #83
After all that came out about her kerfuffle with anti-LGBTQ+ onetexan Sep 2019 #82
Psh. She's been shilling for Kamala for weeks. NCLefty Sep 2019 #85
I turned AMJOY off during that sagment Gothmog Sep 2019 #91
AMJOY was down on Joe Biden back in May and she lost viewers due to it Gothmog Sep 2019 #92
 

trueblue2007

(17,194 posts)
1. i turn off MSNBC when Joy and Steve KORNACKI COME ON
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 04:44 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(102,142 posts)
2. I read "three pages" of comments on her twitter feed--She's getting scorched.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 04:44 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,893 posts)
47. Here's one.. so far the replies are dead on!
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 07:38 PM
Sep 2019


She's only getting people to stand up for Biden.. way to go, Joy!

Thanks for the reminder about replies!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(102,142 posts)
59. Pretty darned spot-on.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 08:04 PM
Sep 2019

Good!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Clash City Rocker

(3,390 posts)
71. "I'm seriously pissed off that Democrats are eating their own. Now let me attack some Democrats."
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:39 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cilla4progress

(24,718 posts)
3. I LOOOOVE Joy, but, I agree,
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 04:47 PM
Sep 2019

she is using social media to push a campaign for Biden to drop out.

Maybe that's a good thing.

Yes, I believe she favors Warren.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
8. Yeah, it's a good thing because this desperate move is causing people to coalesce around Joe. BTW
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:10 PM
Sep 2019

Kamala is her favorite. Everyone who loooooves Joy, should know this fact.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
25. Nobody's "coalescing around Joe" because of anything Joy Reid says
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:42 PM
Sep 2019

at least not anyone who isn't already coalesced around him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(296,893 posts)
48. Joy's bashing Biden sure is making a lot of people stand up for him..
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 07:40 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
58. Noticed Reid's only one among many pushing this theme at once.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 08:02 PM
Sep 2019

It's no doubt both orchestrated for professionals like Reid to hit and spread by others who recognize their cues without being told.

As I commented on another thread, I very, very strongly suspect spreading these anti-Democrat themes is a job requirement for anyone who wants a daytime cable show, and those who want to appear on them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wiley

(2,921 posts)
80. Great post. Thanks
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 02:02 AM
Sep 2019

Joy also has a serious problem with having guests other than black women that she believes also love Kamala, Cory or Warren. Add Chcuk Todd to your list BTW.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Big Blue Marble

(5,056 posts)
9. Actually, I think it is Harris she wants most,
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:11 PM
Sep 2019

then Warren or Bernie. in watching her, it seems she viscerally against Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
87. Definitely; I saw her one night
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 05:40 AM
Sep 2019

and it was clear she wanted Harris and was really upset that Biden is polling better.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FloridaBlues

(4,007 posts)
41. Believe she favors Harris by other comments on her show
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:46 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cilla4progress

(24,718 posts)
46. She had a wonderful segment with
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 07:38 PM
Sep 2019

Frank Schaffer and John Fugeisang about Falwell Jr

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
72. You love her homophobia?
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:41 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
76. If she believes in Warren, you would think she'd believe Warren can earn the support needed to
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 12:43 AM
Sep 2019

surpass Biden’s, not need Biden to drop out in order to better her chances. Same for any other candidate she might prefer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
4. Joy lost me awhile ago.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:05 PM
Sep 2019

Not so much because of her bias - these shows are essentially the equivalent of newspaper op-eds and I expect the expression of opinions one way or another - but because she often seems to be sloppy with facts. You can have whatever opinion you want but you can't have your own facts.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
64. She lost me when she lied and said her account had been hacked.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 08:50 PM
Sep 2019

Never owned up to her anti-gay comments. I would have respected her if she had simply said she had changed and was sorry for the comments.

But she didn’t.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Quixote1818

(28,921 posts)
5. Wow, I haven't been supporting Biden but this makes me want to.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:06 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
6. Reid isn't calling for Biden to leave the race. She interviewed someone...
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:06 PM
Sep 2019

...who thinks Biden gave an answer in the debate that is essentially disqualifying. I agree with her guest. His answer was horrific.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
10. She is pushing this narrative by making this a centerpiece of her show. Everyone knows what she is
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:14 PM
Sep 2019

trying to accomplish and it is backfiring, big time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
12. Right back atcha ...
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:16 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
19. Biden's response is newsworthy and Reid is hardly the only one who thinks so.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:32 PM
Sep 2019
Tim Wise, among others, also thinks it's newsworthy.

Therefore, one segment of Reid's show was about this issue.

I think you want desperately to underestimate how atrocious Biden's statement was.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

wiley

(2,921 posts)
81. Good. Keep calling her out on her crap
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 02:05 AM
Sep 2019

This is truly unprofessional, manipulative, and fuct. I don't like lying homophobes either. And I now support Biden - because of Castro and Booker.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
11. IKR?
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:16 PM
Sep 2019

Today's marching orders must have been to drag Joy Reid. First Trump goes after her this morning and now, like clockwork, comes the factless follow-up ...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
20. Sure, Biden made a racist and ignorant comment, as he has numerous times before. But...
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:36 PM
Sep 2019

...let's take the heat off of him by vilifying Joy Reid for helping bring attention to what he said and how awful it is.

Talk about scorching, folks should read what Tim Wise has been tweeting about Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

still_one

(92,062 posts)
30. The question was not a simple answer for a debate format, and Biden tried to answer
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:04 PM
Sep 2019

it including what it entails, and I suspect many failed to grasp what he was trying to say, or even grasp the complexities of the question.

This conversation does not just apply to one demographic either, it applies to all, and to suggest that environment and home life does not mold someone growing up, I believe ignores much

The answer is not so easy though, because it infringes on the rights of parents to raise their children as they see fit

For example, a child brought up in a family which advocates the views of racism and bigotry, how will that child turn out?

It is not that far different than those who say, no one can tell me whether my kid can be vaccinated or not. While it can be argued legitimately, that this represents a public health hazard that affects the well-being of everyone, the environment a child is brought up in will also have an impact on society.

"No one tells me how I am going to raise my child"

At what point, if ever, should society intervene?

That is easy to determine if the child is provided with drugs or other concrete things that endanger that child, but that can't be done in cases with parents who don't involve themselves in what their children are doing, because it infringes on our freedoms.

That is why things like the school lunch programs, big brothers, head start, etc. are so important to try to address those deficiencies.

This is not the first time this issue has been brought up. This discussion has been going on for some time.

It is related to the reparations

It is related to the busing issue. To try to move students into a better environment where they can be in a better learning environment.

This is not simply a binary issue, it is far more complex, and involves individual rights, parents rights, and societies responsibilities, and I would argue those who want to simplify it to absolutisms, that if you go one way you are a racist, and if you go another way you are not, I believe are ignoring the compmlexities of the entire issue

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
35. He was quoted as saying we bear no responsibility for the sins of the past and was then asked...
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:27 PM
Sep 2019

...how we repair the legacy of slavery. His response was to suggest that Black parents don't know how to parent.

There's no sugarcoating this. It was a horrible, horrible response.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

still_one

(92,062 posts)
38. Obviously you choose to ignore what I wrote, or all that question entails
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:43 PM
Sep 2019

I question that people really want to have an honest discussion on this

It isn’t a simple answer, and I would challenge all the candidates to answer that question with a simple answer

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
43. There are many ways to address the legacy of slavery question.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:50 PM
Sep 2019

Suggesting that Black parents don't know how to parent is not the way to answer that question, unless you're a Republican. But that's precisely how Biden chose to answer the question.

We're talking about systemic racism, which continues to influence every aspect of American life. We're talking about the very foundation of this nation. But, hey, the problem is Black parents don't expose their children to enough spoken words. Jesus H Christ.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

cilla4progress

(24,718 posts)
44. Me too.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:53 PM
Sep 2019

It was Anand Ghiraridas.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
45. Biden was quoted as saying we bear no responsibility for the sins of the past and was then asked...
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:57 PM
Sep 2019

...how to repair the legacy of slavery. Essentially, how do we address institutional and structural racism that permeates American society.

And his response is to suggest Black parents need to be taught the importance of exposing their children to more spoken words.

I swear, there are Republicans who could give a better and less offensive answer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
61. Every election the Democratic frontrunner is found
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 08:20 PM
Sep 2019

so unworthy for some reason that hostiles in the media demand he or she withdraw, spread wide by those eager to take the hand-off.

You can make all the excuses and rationalizations you want, and even believe it's right for you to call for the candidate who's been far out ahead since before he even announced to withdraw entirely.

But Biden's the frontrunner this time and the demands to take him out that you are part of are as predictable as wildfire in summer, as is race as the weapon of choice. Our own RW agents and Putin's never stopped stoking racial divisions to defeat us, and are just revving up the output.

February 3 is only 142 days away. And THAT is why right on schedule after the third debate we're seeing this coordinated attack on our current frontrunner. Using whatever material can be mined from it. If this wasn't used, something else would. Probably also chosen race related, but quickly advancing senility is possible.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
62. Putin and Trump surrogates are prepared to use Biden's racist comments...
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 08:38 PM
Sep 2019

...to suppress Democratic turnout. Jamil Smith is right that we need someone versed in anti-racism to take on Trump. Not merely a non-racist and certainly not someone who has a history of making racist comments, even if they are borne out of ignorance and not hate.

Biden wasn't a good presidential candidate in 1988. Or in 2008. Or now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
63. I didn't mean to pull the bad string, Garrett.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 08:45 PM
Sep 2019

I'm actually as sure as I can be that inside somewhere you know Biden's a good guy and demanding he pull out is rushing to trouble, not to what is right.

I'm hoping for, even if delayed (perhaps to the middle of the night?), some reaction that resents being used by Russia and people like McConnell to defeat yourself and turn the U.S. into a broken democracy, ruled by right wing autocracy. I don't know if you have children who might generate a little reasonable fear, but we now know it really can happen here. And like all bad things it'll happen worst to minorities. This isn't some stupid ball game we get to scream and yell at and then just go home from.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
66. I haven't called for him to drop out, but I don't buy the premise of a certain narrative.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 09:03 PM
Sep 2019

People have convinced themselves that only Biden can win, based largely on a false narrative about what happened in 2016 and why.

Some honestly seem to think the key to winning is flipping Trump voters in PA, MI and WI. As opposed to boosting turnout among our base. Hundreds of thousands who showed up for Obama didn't show up for Clinton in key battleground states (it isn't that they voted for Trump; it's that they didn't vote at all or voted 3rd party). But people think flipping Trump voters is the key (and that nominating an old white male will do the trick). It's madness. This will be a base election. We need to boost turnout among POC, youth and white suburban women. That's what wins us the White House.

By the way, Jamelle Bouie wrote a good piece about the Obama-Trump voter that I've posted several times before: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/11/why-did-some-white-obama-voters-for-trump.html

People can't seem to grasp that A) some racists voted for Obama (like the racists who are married to a person of color and, therefore, can't be racist) following 8 years of Bush-Cheney and B) some of those Obama voters had become completely blinded by racism after 8 years of racist attacks on Obama (and are never coming back). Instead, they insist that a key to winning in 2020 is winning back a fraction of a fraction of voters who happened to vote for both Obama and Trump (due to *white* economic anxiety, 'cause - you know - POC don't experience economic anxiety--yeah, that's sarcasm). And, therefore, we need to nominate an old white man to defeat an old white man. Again, it's madness.

Jamil Smith of Rolling Stone is exactly right that non-racism isn't enough. We need someone well-versed in anti-racism. That ain't Biden. And Biden has made comments that suggest he's not even versed in non-racism.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
68. You may notice I'm "undecided." The frontrunner at the end is the
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 09:32 PM
Sep 2019

only one that counts, and there's still a lot of campaigning to go. However, people who know we must win this election simply don't try to take out the currently most redoubtable candidate -- at any time.

As for the reality that racist attitudes are pervasive among every racial group in every nation on the planet, including the Democratic Party, and are always exacerbated in anxious times, is this supposed to be new? Or suddenly such a compelling problem in our party that we must turn our backs on the Republicans to stomp it out -- right now, starting with our currently strongest candidate?

No one should ever turn their backs on these Republicans. I wasn't being frivolous in pointing out that everything that happened after the far right took control, and we couldn't get it back, would happen worst to minorities. These people are mean and their racism isn't the ingrained "white liberal" thoughtlessness type, it's aggressively vicious.

The Repubs can't win free elections any more, so at most they'd put on phony ones, which they are already doing where they can. And with that minorities would lose the power of the vote that all rights and protections depend on. AAs above all know that'd be true, of course, but maybe past time to consider just how bad it could become.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
77. This. This. This. Scary. This.
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 12:51 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wiley

(2,921 posts)
90. Drama!
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 06:30 AM
Sep 2019

Like,which one? Go ask one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(296,893 posts)
49. Whatever it is it's Backfiring.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 07:46 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
55. LOL at Jayne's hypocrisy.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 07:57 PM
Sep 2019

The man was asked how to repair the legacy of slavery. He could have answered that any number of ways, but he chose to suggest that Black parents need to be taught how to parent. It's not surprising that people are outraged. It's disappointing that there aren't more people who are outraged--and, instead, they're outraged that Joy Reid had on a guest who is outraged.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(296,893 posts)
57. It's Backfiring.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 07:59 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
67. Anand Giridharadas was her guest...
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 09:30 PM
Sep 2019

...who called Biden's answer to be disqualifying.

I watched her entire show in real time, and found her to simply be moderating a lively discussion, not making a full-throated attack against Biden the way people are characterizing her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
69. And those characterizing it that way know that. They know their characterization is bullshit.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 09:35 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
70. Yep.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:16 PM
Sep 2019

And they are ignoring the fact that Joe's answer was indeed wretched.

Seriously, his plan for addressing a culture of racism is to send social workers to the homes of black families to teach them how to raise their kids?!?

Willful acceptance and defense of a leader's faults is what GOPers do with Trump.

And blaming Joy won't make Joe a better candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wiley

(2,921 posts)
88. Granted. He is a racist asshole on the Dinesh Joseph D'Souza level
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 06:23 AM
Sep 2019

But she should have known better. This is not the first time she has done something this fuct.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
86. But there is no doubt that is what she wants
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 05:39 AM
Sep 2019

Interviewing someone else to say it gets it out there.

Interesting people think the only way to beat Biden is for him to drop out. If he gets the most votes, too bad. The other candidates need to get more votes, not hope someone beating them drops out so they can win. It's silly anyway.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
7. Can't stand Joy Reid as she has become a huge Joe Biden underminer and
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:07 PM
Sep 2019

detractor. She is beyond disgusting and disgraceful.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
13. I'm one of the ones in that thread doing the "scorching"
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:20 PM
Sep 2019

LOL

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,893 posts)
50. Good for you.. I haven't gotten there Yet!
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 07:47 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueMississippi

(776 posts)
14. I just wrote to MSNBC to drop Joy Reid
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:20 PM
Sep 2019

She is a disgrace and should work for a smaller outfit like TYT. Her views belong there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
16. Lots of people are calling for a boycott. Big fail for Joy.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:26 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueMississippi

(776 posts)
17. She is MSNBC's version of Sean Hannity nt
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:28 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
22. I agree.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:36 PM
Sep 2019

Perfect comparison.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,062 posts)
84. no she isn't, and I am NOT a fan of Joy Reid either.
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 03:35 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wiley

(2,921 posts)
89. Agreed
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 06:27 AM
Sep 2019

But maybe her entire personality and integrity were also hacked. Or the same demon that possessed Castro in some santeria invasion type thingy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JI7

(89,241 posts)
23. why ? most of msnbc is against Biden and it hasn't hurt him at all
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:37 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
73. What is the address of MSNBC. I want them to drop her. She has zero credibility
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 10:45 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueMississippi

(776 posts)
78. Here
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 12:55 AM
Sep 2019

Sam Go <msnbc.digital.editors@nbcuni.com>
MSNBC Admin <MSNBCTVinfo@nbcuni.com>

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WA-03 Democrat

(3,037 posts)
15. I like Joy but Love Joe!
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:24 PM
Sep 2019

Sorry Joy...next let’s beat the Republicans!
GOTV

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
18. Anti-gang Joy Reid? That Joy?
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:29 PM
Sep 2019

Yeah I'm not too keen on her opinion.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
21. Here's how this works.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:36 PM
Sep 2019

It's her show, she's free to do what she wants.

The audience demographic of the show is another matter.

I don't watch her show. I'm down to Maddow, O'Donnell, and Williams, Monday through Friday, and she does occasionally guest host shows in that block.

I didn't see the segment that set off the fireworks. Don't really need or want to.

If she is advocating a "get out Joe" agenda, either through her own words or by giving her guests a forum to do so, she's putting herself on the wrong side of that audience demographic.

And that's her choice. She's an adult, and I'm not going to attack her for it, nor will I defend her if there's blowback...and it looks like there is.

I don't base my actions on the opinions of others. When it comes to Joe Biiden, I make my decisions based on Joe Biden. Not Joy Reid.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dem4decades

(11,270 posts)
24. That's funny, I find myself just watching Ari now.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:41 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
26. I feel bad too because on the same morning Trump calls her out
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:44 PM
Sep 2019

she does this. I would be so sympathetic to her because of the Trump b.s. Then she does this. What do you bet a bunch of new people were watching because of Trump. Then they see this Adnan character call Joe a racist. FWIW that guy has been a Joe hater all along. He was just waiting for something.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
27. Not content with twitter, she posted the same thing on facebook and...
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:46 PM
Sep 2019

is getting dragged there too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,893 posts)
52. I so appreciate Reid is getting called out..
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 07:50 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
28. Joy lost me a long time ago. n/t
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 05:48 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,062 posts)
31. After Joy's gay bigotry, in my view, she has little credibility
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:07 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,716 posts)
34. Good! I hope it blows up in her face... we've seen this b4 with her. No apologies, just excuses
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:18 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,825 posts)
36. Joy Reid can push that line all she wants
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:34 PM
Sep 2019

Ain't going to happen.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,893 posts)
53. Nope. Hope she's enjoying the backlash.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 07:52 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
39. joy reid..lol
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:44 PM
Sep 2019

Is there anyone less relevant. I'm now more likely to support Joe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FloridaBlues

(4,007 posts)
40. Why would she promote this type of divide we have enough of it daily with trump and company
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 06:45 PM
Sep 2019

Stopped watching whenever she comes on months ago.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Chemisse

(30,804 posts)
51. Whether or not they support him, people love Joe Biden.
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 07:50 PM
Sep 2019

She may be learning that you attack him or be mean to him at your peril.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,893 posts)
54. Solid point, Chemisse.. she may be learning this the hard way..
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 07:53 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
56. Who's her candidate?
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 07:58 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

nolabear

(41,938 posts)
65. She posted a "question" on FB asking if he should drop out. She got an earful!
Sat Sep 14, 2019, 08:53 PM
Sep 2019

This is not a smart tactic on her part.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,893 posts)
74. Good to know.. Thanks, Nola!
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 12:17 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
75. SOMEBODY's definitely getting desperate. But it's not Joy Reid ...
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 12:38 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(296,893 posts)
83. Well it's not Skya, either, then.. Reid is the
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 03:21 AM
Sep 2019

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one promoting Biden to drop out on FB and her show.

Skya is giving her opinion about that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onetexan

(13,025 posts)
82. After all that came out about her kerfuffle with anti-LGBTQ+
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 03:16 AM
Sep 2019

Comments, i was sympathetic given she apologized. I dont watch her show, but considering she is not delivering news but peddling hwe political views, she has now lost me completely.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
85. Psh. She's been shilling for Kamala for weeks.
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 03:58 AM
Sep 2019

But Joy lost me back when she tried to act like her past homophobic comments were from a hacker. She really tried to weasel out of that one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(144,951 posts)
91. I turned AMJOY off during that sagment
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 09:38 AM
Sep 2019

AMJOY has attacked Joe before and lost viewers

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(144,951 posts)
92. AMJOY was down on Joe Biden back in May and she lost viewers due to it
Sun Sep 15, 2019, 01:11 PM
Sep 2019

Today Joe gave a truly great speech and two of AMJOY's panelists were mad that Joe gave such a good speech. Here is all of Joe's speech today


Tiffany Cross and some guy name Jason were mad at Joe in effect because he gave such a good speech.

I will start boycotting AMJOY and will mute the TV when Cross or this Jason guy are on.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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