Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumDoug Schoen, of Fox News, has this take of Biden's performance in the Debate.
What he says matches what I felt about Joe's performance and how many eople will see it. It's Fox News, but Douglas E. Schoen has more than 30 years experience as a pollster and political consultant. He also has a new book is "Putin's Master Plan" and has been critical of Trump.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/doug-schoen-democratic-debate-detroit-joe-biden-kamala-harris-gabbard-inslee
I am only posting what he said about Joe. I don't believe his opinion that Sanders and Warren were losers, but as far as the health care debate goes, W4A might have be seen as the loser.
Former Vice President Joe Biden dominated the debate stage and weathered the attacks of nine opponents for the Democratic presidential nomination Wednesday night, emerging the clear winner and standing by his promise to not be overly polite.
In possibly the most contentious Democratic primary debate thus far, frontrunners Biden and Sen. Kamala Harris of California sparred with each other and the other candidates over the issues of health care, immigration, race relations and climate change.
Following Harris and Bidens heated exchange over busing to achieve school integration in the first debate, Biden was far more aggressive than in his previous debate performance in responding to attacks from every candidate on stage.
The former vice president delivered his message compellingly and convincingly. Even during his less strong moments, Biden remained the focal point of the conversation, speaking for over 21 minutes more than any other candidate on stage.
On health care, in particular, Biden displaying his in-depth policy knowledge while also rebutting repeated attacks from Harris. Biden gave a strong defense of his pragmatic plan to strengthen ObamaCare, while the confusion and lack of clarity around Harris plan hindered her position.
Biden also successfully took aim at what he has called Harris have it every which way approach.
Health care is the single most important issue facing the public, Biden said to Harris. To be very blunt ... you can't beat President Trump with doubletalk on this plan.
However, I disagree with him on the seismic shift away from the centrist position. I think Joe is right on mark.
Despite Bidens strong performance and solid frontrunner status, it is clear that the party has seismically shifted away from the centrist Democratic Party of the 1990s, making his path to the nomination far from certain.
Moreover, despite Bidens strong performance and solid frontrunner status, it is clear that the party has seismically shifted away from the centrist Democratic Party of the 1990s, making his path to the nomination far from certain.
Though Biden controlled this debate in many ways, his two leading opponents were absent from the stage of the CNN debate in Detroit. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, both competing for the support of the far left, debated Tuesday night.
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Under attack for being too moderate, Biden delivered a powerful response when asked how he can appeal to progressives in the Democratic Party. He drew on his past success in winning elections and scoring major achievements in governing during his long career and emphasized his clear appeal to Midwest and working-class voters.
I was asked to manage an $87 billion plan that would be spent in a total of 18 months that revived this state and many others and it kept us out of a depression, Biden said, referring to his work as vice president to help the auto industry and the country as a whole climb out of the Great Recession shortly after he took office with former President Barack Obama.
Biden said he led the economic recovery effort with just a fraction of 1 percent waste or fraud, and our administration pushed bailing General Motors out saving tens of thousands of jobs here in this state.
Ultimately, the strength of Bidens performance made it clear that he is prepared to combine the policy knowledge and experience necessary to take on President Trump and potentially win in November 2020. He clearly remains the candidate who will be tough to beat for the Democratic presidential nomination.
Other aspects of his presentation might be criticized, but on the health issue I think he knocked it out of the park.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bucolic_frolic
(43,111 posts)when the election is underway, Democrats have to appeal to the middle and most elements left and some on the right.
I wrote months ago this was going to be a Biden-Klobuchar ticket targeted a lot to the heartland because it makes electoral college sense. Without thinking through the entire list of other candidates, no other ticket does that. Not to say they are not great candidates, they are. But bring that geographic balance. Candidates from California, Massachusetts bring no additional electoral college votes - their home states are Blue. Beto might bring Texas, but it's a roll and not a good fit for Biden. Joe Biden reaches back to the solid Democratic Party of the 1970s, the working lunch pail union-supporting Democrats of the post-Watergate generation. The New Deal was still intact, pre-Reagan. Patriotism was still red, white, and blue. They can't make Biden into a socialist. THe worst thing they can say is he's 76. He's in better shape than Trump.
I sure given an edge to Warren on progressive policies, think tank brainpower, and on the fly flexibility. An academic though won't appeal to a lot of working class Democrats. Biden has held high office over 4 decades. He's the man to beat at this point.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UncleNoel
(864 posts)but I thought Klobuchar did well in the debate. I for one liked her line I read the bill, "Page 8".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,037 posts)Democrat Doug Schoen Reconsiders Backing Clinton: I Am No Longer Supporting Hillary For President
Dem analyst Doug Schoen: 'As of today, I am not a supporter of' Clinton
- 10/31/16 08:11 AM EDT
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fiendish Thingy
(15,568 posts)The GOP see Biden as the most beatable candidate of the top 4 - they are terrified of running against Warren, Sanders or Harris, they see Biden as the most vulnerable.
P.s. This article appears to be about the second debate, not the one in Houston.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided