Joy Reid went after Ed Rendell today for calling Warren a hypocrite, right after she complained

[highplainsdem]

about Biden supporters objecting to criticism of Biden.

She was unhappy with Rendell for his opinion piece pointing out how Warren was raising money last year, before she started criticizing the people who'd helped her then. (Rendell made it clear the opinion piece was his idea. He supports Biden but doesn't work for the campaing.)

Reid didn't see how silly she looked going after a Biden supporter for daring to say anything critical about Warren, after she made it clear she didn't think Biden supporters should complain about criticism of their candidate.

I caught just a few minutes of her show while checking to see if MSNBC was carrying any of the 16th St. Baptist Church service. Just enough to see she's unhappy with the reaction to her giving a platform to Biden critics who are saying he should drop out.

Then I turned the TV off.

[Demsrule86]

1. I never listen to Reid these days and I loved her...but Warren is a sure loser in the general.

[Perseus]

5. Would you mind explaining why? At least a summary of your analysis would help

There are still many of us who are undecided and it seems you have done some analysis on Warren that has led you to that conclusion, it would be great if you can share, it may help many of us decide.

[Thekaspervote]

12. I really like EW, would luv to see a fe prez and am envious when I look at other fe leaders in the

Free world

No, I’m not the one you were asking. But Here’s what I find in unbiased polling

EW polling with the AA community is not good. SC is the bellwether for the AA voter- these poll numbers reflect the national numbers as well.

As 2016 proved we cannot win without the AA voter... in big numbers


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primaries/democratic/south-carolina/

I will definitely vote for the nominee regardless

[thesquanderer]

16. re: "As 2016 proved we cannot win without the AA voter... in big numbers"

You don't think Hillary had sufficient AA support?

Also, I'm skeptical that we won't get good AA turnout in 2020 for ANYONE we put up against Trump.

[Demsrule86]

25. We didn't in 16...a small drop in AA vote was it for us...and EW does not have AA support thus she

should not be our nominee as AA vote is very important part of our party.

[Salviati]

35. In October 2007 Hillary had a 24 point lead over Obama in the AA Community...

By January, that lead had reversed. We shouldn't overlook the polling among the most solid group of Democratic voters, but we shouldn't believe that those numbers can't change either...

[Demsrule86]

39. Obama was liked by AA voters...he ran in a moderate sort of way...EW has gone quite left...and

I don't think they support her...not a matter of if she can win or not like it was with Obama ...but she simply is not a candidate they support...thus I don't see the numbers changing.

[thesquanderer]

47. The fact that Biden leads among AA voters does not mean Warren does not have their support.

Someone can like multiple candidates, but you still have to pick just one when you vote.

Latest relevant poll seems to be this one:

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/NPR_PBS-NewsHour_Marist-Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_1909091558.pdf#page=3

Biden and Sanders have 47% favorability among non-white voters (they didn't break out AA specifically), Warren's is right there at 46%. And Warren has more room to go up, because 21% haven't yet formed an opinion about her, compared to only 12% who haven't yet formed an opinion about Biden.

Just because Biden is not someone's FIRST choice when they can only choose one, you can't assume they wouldn't be similarly happy to vote for someone else. Just as I currently list Warren as my first choice, but if it ended up being my second choice Buttigieg in November, I'd be equally enthusiastic to cast that vote.

[Demsrule86]

26. I live in the Mid West and lived in Wisconsin before Ohio...I worked elections for years.

Elizabeth Warren is way to the left of people here...she will be attacked as a socialist and as an 'East Coast' elite like Kerry...She will not win WI, MI and PA...we need to win these states. We could also lose the House as moderates gave us the house...also I work with many people of color...and they are not particularly progressive...moderate some leaning toward conservative...she is the wrong candidate for the states we need in 20 even though she has my vote. Trump could win...in fact it will be a huge victory if he doesn't the progressive idea that anyone can beat Trump is false.

[thesquanderer]

18. Sure loser? Why Warren can win:

Reasonable assumption: Any state that chose Clinton over Trump is not going to choose Trump over Warren. So Warren starts with all the states Clinton won.

Still well in advance of the first primary and with a lag in name recognition (compared to Biden, Sanders, or Trump), she is shown as winning or at least very competitive in enough additional states to swing the election back to us. As I posted elsewhere:

Warren vs. Trump in Pennsylvania: 2 polls, she wins both.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_warren-6865.html

Warren vs. Trump in Michigan: 3 polls, she wins all.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/mi/michigan_trump_vs_warren-6769.html

Warren vs. Trump in Wisconsin: 2 polls, she wins one.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/wi/wisconsin_trump_vs_warren-6852.html

Warren vs. Trump in Florida: 2 polls, she wins one.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_warren-6844.html

With that info in mind, what's the foundation for considering her a sure loser?

[Demsrule86]

24. Polls show Joe can win overwhelmingly...Warren will not win the states we need...some of the polls

you have there also used non-registered voters...and in most she is up by the margin of error.

[Demsrule86]

28. Hillary was preceived as a moderate...Warren will not be...she will be seen as far left...most

likely branded a socialist by the lying GOP so you can't count on her taking states Hillary won either and she is not very much ahead as I pointe out...mostly around the margin of error...Biden is much farther ahead.

[thesquanderer]

45. Maybe Clinton wasn't branded as a socialist, but she was branded as a whole lot of other things,

including a criminal ("You can't elect someone under FBI investigation" "lock her up" "you'd be in jail" ).

Even before all that started, her "favorables" were worse (though Warren's aren't great).

But I'll be looking at polling as we get closer to primary day. I want someone who polls well against Trump in the swing states, and whose favorability is good outside the Dem base.

I still find it hard to imagine any state who picked Clinton over Trump going for Trump over Warren, though, no matter what they throw at her.

[Demsrule86]

69. Winning the states Clinton won will not help us with the electoral college, we need the blue

wall states and Warren won't win them IMHO.

[thesquanderer]

70. We need HRC's states plus 3 out of 4: MI/WI/PA/FL.

As I posted earlier, polls show Warren very competitive against Trump in all of them, even this far out when her name recognition still lags.

I can see rationale for thinking that, at least at this point, Warren isn't a lock, and someone else (i.e. Biden) may be a safer bet. But I see no rationale for saying she's incapable of winning those states, certainly based on the polling so far. (I'll be keeping an eye on the polling as it gets closer to my day to vote...)

[left-of-center2012]

2. I quit her when it became known she hates gays

She first apologized.
Then said, no, she'd been hacked.

[Thekaspervote]

7. This!! Not going down that rabbit hole again. She blew her credibility with me long b4 this started

[cwydro]

63. Same here.

Not a fan.

[DURHAM D]

3. She was not "unhappy" nor did she look "silly".

jftr - MSNBC carried Biden's speech live. CNN did not.

[highplainsdem]

6. I'm not the only one who noticed her hypocrisy. For instance:

Link to tweet

Wow. @amjoyshow Joy Reid bashing Biden supporters for defending him. So it’s ok for Biden to be attacked, but his supporters should say nothing. And Warren is above scrutiny.

That was exactly how I heard it.

[locks]

4. Though I don't always agree with her

Joy Reid does a good job. You should have listened to the whole show.

[highplainsdem]

11. I listen to her fairly often. And there have been times I've defended her when I thought she was

being attacked unfairly:

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210098846#post9

But I don't like her giving a platform to, and agreeing with, people who call Biden a racist, even if they qualify that by saying at least he isn't as obvious as a Klan member.

And I think it's stupid beyond belief for anyone who opposes Trump to call on the Democratic front-runner to drop out, when we have no idea yet if any of his rivals will be able to reach even the level of support he has now.

I also think it's stupid, and that it provides lots of ammo for the GOP, to suggest as Reid did that black voters are supporting him only because they feel they have to settle for him because they couldn't elect a progressive or a POC.

She has a very short memory, considering that Obama was in office still less than three years ago.

And she has a very low opinion of Obama as well as Biden if she thinks Obama "settled" for Biden and knowingly chose someone he considered racist.

[brush]

8. I watched the show. My view of it is not what you say. She presented Rendell who supported...

Biden and Tiffany Cross and Jason Johnson, younger African Americans, who stated that Biden is favored by most older African Americans but is not the choice of younger AAs.

In my view that was fair coverage to have both sides on the issue have their say. Rendell was there and he spoke well of Biden being the one who can bring America back to a less chaotic and decent time of political discourse.

And do you think a candidate is not going to get criticism? Please, even among African Americans, younger African Americans, Biden gets critiqued unfavorably. That's real. You heard what Cross and Johnson, both younger AAs said.

And btw, that's how the primary process works. Everyone doesn't agree with your choice all the time. Same with the other candidates. It actually toughens them up for the general election and if Biden gets the nomination he needs to know how to push back strongly against the much, much worse vitriol that will be coming his way from trump and his campaign.

Your bias against Reid is showing clearly and it's over the top to say the least.

[SharonClark]

41. I watched the show and agree with you.

There are to many people on DU who "hate" anyone who hasn't fallen in love with their primary preference.

[emmaverybo]

54. Does Joy ever have older AAs on the show to explain their support for Joe? Or do they not

count?

[FloridaBlues]

9. Listened to Bidens speech it was heartfelt, strong and brought it to the present time

Well done

[qazplm135]

10. seriously?

Whether you agree with her or not, the focus of her commentary was the reaction of Biden supporters to criticism of Biden, which is EXACTLY what Rendell was responding to, Warren's criticism of Biden's fundraising.

Feel free to disagree, but calling it hypocrisy is nonsense.

[Perseus]

13. "the reaction of Biden supporters to criticism", we don't have to go far to see that happening

Just here in DU if you say something that Biden supporters don't like you are in danger of being reported for "bashing" a Democrat, we can see this passion which at some times ignores the facts of what Biden did or said, so her comment is right on point. That goes for Pelosi as well, it seems there is a huge passion for Pelosi who in some people's understanding, she can do no wrong.

We need to be more open minded, constructive criticism is good, it makes us better. When I paint a portrait I show it to many in my family, my wife being the toughest of all, and I take all their criticism to make sure that when I am done the face I painted has likeness to the subject, when we leave our passions on the side we can see better, and other people can many times, when they are truthful, they can see what our eyes and ears are not willing to accept. We are liberals, democrats, we need to behave as such and allow constructive criticism, we need to do it to make sure we make the right decision in choosing a great candidate.

I am undecided, and I will vote for the nominee, no matter who he/she is, but we need to vote for the best, to do that we need to be objective, think with our heads and not our hearts.

[Demsrule86]

30. Really it happens to Biden supporters too...hate to tell you.

[highplainsdem]

14. Rendell felt Warren had criticized him personally, and other donors as well, a point he also made

to the NY Times before that WaPo opinion piece came out:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/09/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-2020.html

As Ms. Warren has risen in the polls on her populist and anti-corruption message, some donors and, privately, opponents are chafing at her campaign’s purity claims of being “100 percent grass-roots funded.” Several donors now hosting events for her rivals organized fund-raisers for her last year.

“Can you spell hypocrite?” said former Gov. Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania, who contributed $4,000 to Ms. Warren in 2018 and is now supporting former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.

Mr. Rendell said he had recruited donors to attend an intimate fund-raising dinner for Ms. Warren last year at Barclay Prime, a Philadelphia steakhouse where the famed cheesesteak goes for $120. (The dish includes Wagyu rib-eye, foie gras, truffled cheese whiz and a half-bottle of champagne.) He said he received a “glowing thank-you letter” from Ms. Warren afterward.

But when Mr. Rendell co-hosted Mr. Biden’s first fund-raiser this spring, Ms. Warren’s campaign sent brickbats, deriding the affair as “a swanky private fund-raiser for wealthy donors,” the likes of which she now shuns.

“She didn’t have any trouble taking our money the year before,” Mr. Rendell said. “All of a sudden, we were bad guys and power brokers and influence-peddlers. In 2018, we were wonderful.”

[qazplm135]

15. yes, it was a reaction to an attack on Biden

if you want to criticize it for that reason, feel free...but it's not hypocritical in the context of what Reid was saying.

It's exactly on point in fact.

[Gothmog]

19. Warren used to use high dollar fund raisers and will do so again if she is the nominee

Last edited Sun Sep 15, 2019, 02:14 PM - Edit history (1)

Attacking Biden for using these fundraisers irks me.

BTW, I have attended such events for both Clinton and I attended one of these events for Biden on Friday

[qazplm135]

22. What's Harris got to do with this?

And where did I comment one way or the other on Biden?

You're just attacking to attack aren't you?

Kinda makes Reid's point doesn't it.

[Gothmog]

17. Ed held his own

AMJOY went after Biden back in May and it hurt her ratings. I boycotted this show for a long while. AMJOY had a guy name Jason and Tiffany Cross on who attacked Biden after the speech. It seems that the Jason guy and Cross were pissed that Biden gave a good speech.

I will be boycotting AMJOY for a while. Her attacks on Biden are sad

[Thekaspervote]

20. Me too!!

[revmclaren]

21. I will too.

Used to watch her all the time but her bias against Biden taints her objectivity and this is inexcusable for a journalist.



ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

[Gothmog]

49. Agreed-

[brush]

46. Try viewing it thru another lens. Cross and Johnson are younger African Americans and many whites...

don't realized that many GenXer and Millennial African Americans have issues with many of Biden's political stances and decisions from the many years he had been in the public eye— i.e., busing, the crime bill he authored, the Anita Hill hearings denial of witnesses appearances (he was the committee chairman), the seemingly fond reminiscences of working with segregationists who called him son and grown black men boy (he actually said that and somehow thought that would endear him to blacks), the bumbling response to the reparations question at the last debate which inferred that African Americans don't know how to raise their kids.

Those are serious issues and Joy Reid, being a journalist reports it on her show which enrages many Biden supporters. It is what it is though, older African Americans still support Biden but younger ones just don't.

It's a new reality in the black community and many whites don't know it. Reid's show reports it and many white just can't deal with the new dichotomy that is the current situation with the once monolithic black voting block.

[Gothmog]

48. I will be boycotting MSNBC when these two are on

They were mad that Vice President Biden gave a good speech and that their candidates who want to cram down MFA and other fundamental changes are not likely to get the nomination.

BTW, did the Jason person even vote for a Democrat in 2016?

[brush]

50. You don't have to watch her show. Just know many younger black voters have issues with Biden...

and considering the history, good reasons for them. I am African American and would vote for Biden with no hesitation should he get the nomination. Should that happen I will keep my fingers crossed and hold others do the same.

[Docreed2003]

51. +1

I don't understand why it's so hard for some to understand that criticizing Biden's past and asking for him to explain more clearly his current positions doesn't equate to calling him racist. Voters are asking for all candidates to do the same. Biden just happens to have more history than all the others.

[brush]

52. Yes, he has a long history, some good, some not so good.

He and his supporters have to accept that. His staff needs to anticipate difficult questions and prepare him better.

[StarfishSaver]

67. Case in point

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

71. Here is an interesting article

Link to tweet

Biden consistently has commanded a staggering lead among black voters. Two-thirds of black voters over 65 are backing Biden, as well as 42 percent of black voters overall; Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) comes in a distant second with about 12 percent support. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is down at 8 percent and South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg is not even registering at 1 percent.

This sounds like a pretty interesting story. Instead, “frontrunner, but …” is a common refrain. Consider the new Axios-NewsWhip 2020 tracker that found Biden has been bombarded by negative coverage. Of the 100 stories about Biden that got the most social media attention, 77 were negative. Presumably, the same is true of cable news.

Even with the magnification of Biden’s gaffe-du-jour and the flow of media admiration of Warren’s surge — both of which reflect a true story — Biden’s backers are the most committed. Nearly 65 percent of his supporters say they’ll definitely support him, as opposed to just 34 percent of those who support other candidates.....

Why is it so hard for people to grasp that Biden isn’t just the most “electable” but, rather, the candidate with positions most in line with Democrats’ preferences? His platform is made up of policies that poll incredibly well and his supporters aren’t masking their love for progressives in favor of a safe bet. They like Joe.

[brush]

72. That seems to back up that many younger AAs aren't in the Biden camp, though it isn't the...

the clearest article.

[Cha]

23. Not sure it was just Biden "supporters" who were

upset with her.. it seemed like from reading the tweet replies and her FB page(promoting Biden dropping out) that there were allies who didn't like what she was promoting, either.

"Our guest author Anand Giridharadas is not the only person who thinks Biden should drop out of the 2020 race after his debate comments. What do you think, #reiders? Watch and weigh in:"

LOl@first reply..

Robert Miller Biden drop out??? I thought it was a typo, and the title meant to say Castro! Castro was wrong about everything regarding his exchange with Biden. Biden knew exactly what he had said. If anyone should go, it should be Castro!

Bridget Davis Enough with the bashing of candidates. Joy everyone knows you aren't for Biden and try at every opportunity to hurt his campaign. I will vote for who ever the nominee is whether it be Biden or someone else.

https://www.facebook.com/joyreidofficial/posts/2306261106153165

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=280234

Reid doesn't have to say it directly "Biden drop out".. she's promoting it.

Maye James-Holler I don’t agree with your guest! Sure he could have handle the question better. But when i see how ALL the channels put Trump in the White House by giving him free publicity, as he lied everyday and couldn’t answer a damn question so he called people names. That didn’t bother the pundits, when Joe makes a mistake or a gaffe, oh my, lets kick him out. PLEASE!!! I’m a person of color and I’m for JOE!

Debbie Marijanovich It's obvious that many MSNBC hosts have their favorites! They have been after Biden before he even tossed his hat in the ring

Bonnie Blancett Anand Giridharadas is insufferable. I watched that interview. There was no respect for Vice President Biden. And, I'm sick of Joy having these people on with their immature points of view. All they want is purity. Have they lived seasoned lives. NO! Have they the ability to appreciate anyone before their existence. And shame on Julian Castro for daring to think he has more sway with Obama than Biden. Even Warren dodges confrontation. Did Joe melt into the background when attacked? NO! He was stunned but stood his ground. Joe would never stoop to the behavior of these jealous, self serving people. ie, Booker and Castro. He has my vote, my family's vote, and most of us are older. We know what it means to be a true Democrat.

Asiwaju Femi Falade Nonsense, Joe Biden drop out? I like Joy Reid, but one thing I have noticed about her, is that she is always happy to report negative news about Joe Biden. I am really getting tired of this so called liberal and progressive media, they like to batch their own politicians, most especially if they don't want certain politician to get to a certain position. They did the same thing with Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election. They devoted about 75% of their time covering negative stories about Hillary Clinton e.g email scandal, server sandal, Benghazi scandal etc. Enough is enough.

So who's the hypocrite now?

[brush]

33. We can't make GenXer and Millennial African Americans support Biden when they have issues...

with many stances he's taken over a long career (busing, the crime bill, the Anita Hill witnesses denial, the seemly fond reminiscences of working with segregationists, the jumbled response to the debate reparations question). We can't force people to like him just as we can't force Reid not to report the dichotomy that now exists among African American voters.

Older African Americans support Biden but many younger ones just don't. That's the reality of the now non-monolithic black vote.

I myself have recently begin favoring Biden as I feel he can beat trump as he has a blue collar/unionist appeal in the rust belt and the repugs won't be able to make the socialist tag stick to him like they will against more left-leaning Sanders and Warren because voters have known Biden for decades and know he's a middle of the pack Dem.

I like Warren and many of Sanders' positions but my reason for leaning towards Biden is I'm a pramatist. We need to beat trump and he may be the one who can do it, but I don't speak for all AA voters.

[blm]

27. All those criticizing Dem candidates sound like idiots. Even posts like this.

So sick of all the increasingly thinning skin these days.

Start asking yourselves if you’re part of it. Are you REALLY outraged or just jockeying for position.

DU needs to start acting more like leaders in the Dem party and our campaigns. We are NOT thin skinned victims. We are leaders. Act like it.

[Demsrule86]

31. No, I always felt that the media including MSNBC helped Trump win and hurt Hillary...they

gave so much time to Hillary haters...the emails... so when I see Joy Reid and others at it again giving Trump free coverage and going after Biden...and Sanders too...it makes me sick. I have turned off MSNBC as a protest...and no longer listen to their BS opinions...all they will do is help elect Trump. I taped every show and watched Joy and others faithfully but no more.

[blm]

32. Oh. Fvcking. Geez.

[still_one]

38. Good advice but isn't going to happen. This is the primary season

[Boxerfan]

29. This poster seems very concerned...

Yes indeed......

and a theme ta bootz?

Or maybe I'm wrongly concerned having seen this just 2 days ago.

[dflprincess]

34. The hypersensitivity of Biden's supporters is getting old

and may do him more harm than good. People may like Joe, but his supporters could turn people off.

[Demsrule86]

44. Same could be said of Warren or Harris supporters...but I don't really like threats. We have a right

to voice our opinion and object when our candidate is smeared...and as I said it cuts both ways. I would hope that you mean in a primary and not a general. Personally, I will vote for any nominee in the general...Trump turns me off way more than any Warren supporter.

[dflprincess]

62. I will vote for the nominee

But I'm a political back who has been active since McGovern ran. I'm used to voting for candidates I'm less than enthused about. I was thinking of people new to the process being turned off just as they were in 2016.

[Demsrule86]

68. You know what I am enthused to vote for all Democrats...because that means a Republican lost.

I vote in the primary for the candidate I like and who I hope can win...and vote blue no matter who. I have no nead to fall in love...some candidates I like more than others...but the GOP is said to fall in line not love and right now despite Demographics they are winning the ideology battle with more states in their control, and a senate that makes you weep for our side...so maybe they are right. We have always need a big tent to win...and when we stopped picking candidates for the districts or states, we lost very badly. So maybe a new strategy is needed...simple. Vote blue no matter who.

[dem4decades]

36. Joy lost her credibility, why watch her?

[still_one]

37. I have no problem with Joy Reid expressing her opinions, that's what she does, but sorry Joy, if you

give your public opinions on various things, or have guests promoting certain views, expect feedback from that, good or bad, because just as Joy has every right to express her opinion on things, so do others

[StarfishSaver]

42. The same advice applies to Biden and his supporters

The whining and swarming by some of his supporters of anyone and everyone who offers even the mildest criticism of him is just really weird.

[still_one]

43. absolutely, and that is what is happening, even with the "mildest" criticism

It is human nature

Leaving Joy Reid out of this, it happens all the time with exchanges here, especially in the Democratic primary forum

I think a lot of us, including myself get wrapped up in this

It is like not seeing the forest for the trees i think

[Thekaspervote]

53. That's your opinion

When the complaints are as shallow, without good intention or any kind decency of the dem front runner, no it isn’t “weird.” If anything it’s the reverse that posters here would call him on his hair plugs, his tooth veneers, corn pop was tiny, not small is nothing short of disgusting.

So I ask you as I have asked many others which I get no reply, how do all these shallow complaints truly relate to the bigger picture of removing the illigal squatter from the WH?

At least Joe Biden we all know has good intentions.

[StarfishSaver]

55. Yes, that is my opinion.

That I posted in response to another poster's opinion.

I know. A crazy thing to do on an online political discussion board. But I'm a rebel...

[Thekaspervote]

56. If I missed what you were saying fair enough

I do NOT post negatively and as much as I would like to snipe back at other candidates via the awful awful things that are said here by posters in supposed support of their candidate of choice I don’t and find it nothing short of contemptible. Negative posting does nothing to change voters minds, I’m sure it would not be welcomed by any candidate and in general damages our chance to win

[emmaverybo]

57. The criticism has not been mild. We are not whining. We are challenging misinterpretations,

distortions, and bias. Calling that whining is itself a problem.

[Buzz cook]

40. Just another attack piece by proxy.

Warren has decided to not accept donations from big donors anymore. Biden's camp wants you to think that makes her a hypocrite.

This is the Biden MO attack by surrogates while Joe acts like he's above the fray.

Rendell did not come up with this on his own this was a coordinated attack.

[Tarheel_Dem]

58. Why are y'all still watching Joy? You know she has an agenda. I removed her from my DVR...

lineup, and don't intend to go back until the primaries are over, IF then.

[StarfishSaver]

60. My question is "Why are y'all still talking about her?"

Joy Reid, who is supposedly irrelevant, biased, discredited, etc., said something on Saturday morning that some Biden supporters didn't like. It's Monday evening and they are STILL fussing about her.

[Tarheel_Dem]

61. One thread was about Saturday's show, this one is about Sunday's show. Hence my question....

"Why are y'all still watching Joy", especially after the Saturday broadcast. I dropped her a couple of months ago, and haven't looked back.

[StarfishSaver]

64. One thread?

No.

[Tarheel_Dem]

65. Yes.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287279485

[StarfishSaver]

66. Ok.

[BlueMississippi]

59. Joy Reid is going off the deep end

I foresee long psychotherapy in her future

[wyldwolf]

73. MSNBC opinion/entertainment hosts like Reid should have the candidate they support listed...

... in the corner of the screen when they're on.