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Alhena

(3,030 posts)
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:29 PM Sep 2019

I'm disappointed in Beto for continuing this cussing routine of his - link

“Well, shit,” O’Rourke responded, hours later, tearing into candidates he said are “triangulating, poll-testing, focus-group driving their response,” adding that “Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell pretending to be interested in something that is literally a life-or-death issue … is simply not enough.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/17/buttigieg-beto-gun-control-2020-1501024

I originally thought the media was being unfair with Beto by suggesting that he was trying to revive his campaign by cussing. I gave him the benefit of the doubt that his dropping the "f bomb" in connection with the mass shootings was organic and unplanned. But now that he keeps on doing it, it's pretty clear that the media was correct.

Beto is in danger of becoming a meme candidate at this point. Not because of his policy positions, but because this apparent strategy of his of dropping in a cuss word into his policy discussions is a transparent and sad ploy for attention. I had really hoped for better from him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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I'm disappointed in Beto for continuing this cussing routine of his - link (Original Post) Alhena Sep 2019 OP
I still think he has a bright future... just needs to stay in the game for the long haul Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #1
It's not a new thing for him, not specific to his Presidential candidacy. Lisa0825 Sep 2019 #2
I fuckin' love it!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #3
It's the only thing I like Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #5
I'm with you fucking 100%. SamKnause Sep 2019 #39
Shit, I don't care world wide wally Sep 2019 #4
Think of the children crazytown Sep 2019 #6
Beto is owning the narrative on gun control jcgoldie Sep 2019 #7
He sure is... good for him!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #42
We are in an existential crisis. Our situation is dire and our enemy is evil. dalton99a Sep 2019 #8
Zactly. Duppers Sep 2019 #11
he is angry so let him do what he is doing. why not just be happy JI7 Sep 2019 #9
He's heart-felt and all, but the cussing is so 60's college-drop out white boys reading R Crumb. I emmaverybo Sep 2019 #10
That's the way I feel too Raine Sep 2019 #13
I agree. cwydro Sep 2019 #38
I don't care about his cussing. I care that he seems to be using it as a "schtick" Maru Kitteh Sep 2019 #12
I guess he uses it for the "shock" value but Raine Sep 2019 #14
What's getting old and tiresome is kids fearing for their lives every time they walk into school liskddksil Sep 2019 #29
Well Ok Raine Sep 2019 #34
We're surging in several polls taken since the debate. liskddksil Sep 2019 #36
He needs to cuss because his policies are not getting him anywhere. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #15
Republican Mayor agrees with Beto on Ban JI7 Sep 2019 #16
He's hot in Clearwater. lol aikoaiko Sep 2019 #19
Its a buy back not confiscation. If we can't get the facts correct on a Democratic discussion forum liskddksil Sep 2019 #25
I'll let Beto's words speak for themselves: 'Hell Yes, We're Going To Take Your AR-15 aikoaiko Sep 2019 #27
If there is anything extreme happening, it is the continued slaughter of Americans with guns. LonePirate Sep 2019 #30
By why do something so extreme when a different approach worked? aikoaiko Sep 2019 #32
"His extreme gun confiscation policy" PDittie Sep 2019 #17
It's even more extreme than the way we handled machine guns. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #20
Agreed. Joe941 Sep 2019 #18
Lol. MrsCoffee Sep 2019 #22
Hey I'm just saying.... lol. Joe941 Sep 2019 #24
Welp, we're at the "Old Man Yells At Clouds" level of political analysis. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #21
When he did that I was so shocked my monocle fell out QC Sep 2019 #23
Jesus does this circular firing squad ever take a break njhoneybadger Sep 2019 #26
If someone driven to swearing because of the fucked state of this country bothers you, then tough LonePirate Sep 2019 #28
If you don't like to hear FUCK and SHIT JanetLovesObama Sep 2019 #31
This! nt liskddksil Sep 2019 #33
I like it! Newest Reality Sep 2019 #35
I do not care if Beto cusses Gothmog Sep 2019 #37
I hope you can Sinistrous Sep 2019 #40
As Sondheim wrote in Gypsy: Politicub Sep 2019 #41
 

Thekaspervote

(32,705 posts)
1. I still think he has a bright future... just needs to stay in the game for the long haul
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:35 PM
Sep 2019

He’ll get it!!

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Lisa0825

(14,487 posts)
2. It's not a new thing for him, not specific to his Presidential candidacy.
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:37 PM
Sep 2019

He cursed occasionally during his senate campaign also. I don't give a shit if he cusses. He is not my candidate of choice this go-round (though I was fully on-board for his last campaign), so he should be his authentic self, IMO. If that means cussing, fucking go for it!

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
3. I fuckin' love it!!
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:43 PM
Sep 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!
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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
5. It's the only thing I like
Tue Sep 17, 2019, 11:56 PM
Sep 2019
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SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
39. I'm with you fucking 100%.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 12:09 PM
Sep 2019
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
6. Think of the children
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 12:01 AM
Sep 2019

think of the children bleeding to death from the injuries caused high velocity ammunition, because the ambulance services are overwhelmed by the sheer number of wounded.

What kind of triangulated, poll-tested, focus-group driven language is appropriate here? What words suffice when MAGAts want your children to grow up without a daddy?

When it comes to gun violence, Beto can fucking tell it like it is.

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jcgoldie

(11,612 posts)
7. Beto is owning the narrative on gun control
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 12:05 AM
Sep 2019

He is keeping that issue in the forefront. His message is passionate, it is overdue, it is bold, and it deserves appreciation. If all you hear are a cuss words, then that sounds like your problem.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
42. He sure is... good for him!!
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 04:02 PM
Sep 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!
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Undecided
 

dalton99a

(81,392 posts)
8. We are in an existential crisis. Our situation is dire and our enemy is evil.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 12:09 AM
Sep 2019

I don't care what language people use to describe the enemy or mobilize our troops.


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JI7

(89,240 posts)
9. he is angry so let him do what he is doing. why not just be happy
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 12:14 AM
Sep 2019

about your candidate being the frontrunner.

it's not like beto is saying these things as a way to attack others.

it's anger over what trump McConnell and others like that are doing.

what you posted was not even that that serious. why get upset over something like that.

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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
10. He's heart-felt and all, but the cussing is so 60's college-drop out white boys reading R Crumb. I
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 02:53 AM
Sep 2019

have a pet peeve about it. Around the house fine, but...

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Raine

(30,540 posts)
13. That's the way I feel too
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 04:21 AM
Sep 2019

I'm a filthy talker but I keep it at home where it belongs and control my mouth in public.

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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
38. I agree.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 11:30 AM
Sep 2019

I remember in the early days of his campaign a woman with children at one of his rallies asked him why he had to curse in front of children.

He apologized and promised to clean it up.

Guess that didn’t stick.

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Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
12. I don't care about his cussing. I care that he seems to be using it as a "schtick"
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 03:53 AM
Sep 2019

I think Beto has the potential to be amazing, but I think he still needs some seasoning.

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Raine

(30,540 posts)
14. I guess he uses it for the "shock" value but
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 04:23 AM
Sep 2019

it's getting old and tiresome.

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liskddksil

(2,753 posts)
29. What's getting old and tiresome is kids fearing for their lives every time they walk into school
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:50 AM
Sep 2019

and the cowardly and spineless politicians in both parties who've done jack shit in the last 30 years to stop this.

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Raine

(30,540 posts)
34. Well Ok
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 10:28 AM
Sep 2019

I guess we'll see how well the language works for him in the end.

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liskddksil

(2,753 posts)
36. We're surging in several polls taken since the debate.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 11:20 AM
Sep 2019

Beto is the leader on this issue and has reset the terms of this debate and made even just a ban on future sales of weapons of war the mainstream moderate position.

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aikoaiko

(34,162 posts)
15. He needs to cuss because his policies are not getting him anywhere.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 06:27 AM
Sep 2019

His extreme gun confiscation policy helped him rise from 2.3% to 3.0% but he is sliding back to 2.8% on the national polls.

He’s done and doesn’t have anything else except cussing. It is his schtick.

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JI7

(89,240 posts)
16. Republican Mayor agrees with Beto on Ban
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 06:39 AM
Sep 2019
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aikoaiko

(34,162 posts)
19. He's hot in Clearwater. lol
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 08:19 AM
Sep 2019
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liskddksil

(2,753 posts)
25. Its a buy back not confiscation. If we can't get the facts correct on a Democratic discussion forum
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:30 AM
Sep 2019

we have no legs to stand on in the war on the truth. And since you decided to take cheap shot, there's been about 4 national polls conducted since the debate, all but 1 showing Beto having increased support since the debate.

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aikoaiko

(34,162 posts)
27. I'll let Beto's words speak for themselves: 'Hell Yes, We're Going To Take Your AR-15
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:46 AM
Sep 2019

A rose is a rose. Requiring them to be turned in the government under penalty of law is confiscation.

The use of the term buyback is to conflate it with voluntary buyback programs.

I'll let Beto's words speak for themselves: Beto O'Rourke: 'Hell Yes, We're Going To Take Your AR-15'

And yes, Beto did see an increase in polling. 2.1% to 3% temporarily.
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LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
30. If there is anything extreme happening, it is the continued slaughter of Americans with guns.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:56 AM
Sep 2019

Extreme problems sometimes require extreme solutions. Mandatory gun buy backs and confiscations are minor compared to another school or grocery store or church filled with corpses from the latest massacre. I sure hope the vast majority of DU recognizes Beto’s gun policies as the sensible policies that they are.

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aikoaiko

(34,162 posts)
32. By why do something so extreme when a different approach worked?
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 10:13 AM
Sep 2019

Homicides with legally owned machine guns went to new zero after the requirement to register them through the NFA in 1934.
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PDittie

(8,322 posts)
17. "His extreme gun confiscation policy"
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 07:07 AM
Sep 2019

Well, there you have it.

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aikoaiko

(34,162 posts)
20. It's even more extreme than the way we handled machine guns.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 08:26 AM
Sep 2019


When machine guns were being used too much in criminal homicides we registered them and it worked. We didn’t confiscate them.

It’s indefensible to say that semi-auto rifles are somehow more dangerous than machine guns that we have to confiscate them.
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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
18. Agreed.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 07:31 AM
Sep 2019

There are a couple guys at work who also have... shall I say a limited vocabulary with ever other word cussing. Not the sharpest tools in the shed. It doesnt help one's perception.

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MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
22. Lol.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 08:48 AM
Sep 2019

Some of the smartest people in the world have been fluent in cussing.

But interesting perception you try to paint there.

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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
24. Hey I'm just saying.... lol.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:13 AM
Sep 2019
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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,905 posts)
21. Welp, we're at the "Old Man Yells At Clouds" level of political analysis.
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 08:36 AM
Sep 2019

Of any problems I have with Beto, this is the bottom of the list. Actually, it's not on the list, because I don't fucking care.

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QC

(26,371 posts)
23. When he did that I was so shocked my monocle fell out
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:07 AM
Sep 2019

and shattered on the floor!

Shattered, I tell you!

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njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
26. Jesus does this circular firing squad ever take a break
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:42 AM
Sep 2019
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LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
28. If someone driven to swearing because of the fucked state of this country bothers you, then tough
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:49 AM
Sep 2019

We all need to be angry about the state of our country. If Beto swears about it to help process this situation and to make people pay attention, then he should continue swearing.

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JanetLovesObama

(548 posts)
31. If you don't like to hear FUCK and SHIT
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 10:12 AM
Sep 2019

don't listen to him. The young people adore him.

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Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
35. I like it!
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 10:35 AM
Sep 2019

It is time to get past the idea of putting so much emphasis on words being "good" and "bad", as per our childhood. Much of that is based on class issues and elitism from the past, along with a good dose or religious moralism about cursing.

That's mature to me and I think Beto is bold in making that point. We are all adults, I hope, and can make the distinction between words and actions and how much difference that alone can make.

My only caveat is, (concerning expletives) don't wear them out. We need them for the emphasis they provide.

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Gothmog

(144,919 posts)
37. I do not care if Beto cusses
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 11:21 AM
Sep 2019

Beto can cuss if he wants to

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Sinistrous

(4,249 posts)
40. I hope you can
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 02:22 PM
Sep 2019

pry your fingers from around that string of pearls.

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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
41. As Sondheim wrote in Gypsy:
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 03:39 PM
Sep 2019

“Kid, you gotta have a gimmick
If you wanna get ahead.”

Using salty language is Beto’s flair.

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