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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

randr

(12,412 posts)
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:22 PM Sep 2019

Assume we will beat Trump no matter what

He will continue to destroy his own chances at re election.
Who do we think is our best candidate in a walk in?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Assume we will beat Trump no matter what (Original Post) randr Sep 2019 OP
I think u underestimate the stupidity we have to BootinUp Sep 2019 #1
I think he will be in some deep shit soon randr Sep 2019 #4
Most POTUS are re-elected Gothmog Sep 2019 #12
Disagree. This election is as close to a sure thing as it gets. Joe941 Sep 2019 #14
If the Demcoratic Party nominates a weak or far left candidate, then trump can easily win Gothmog Sep 2019 #15
Just out of curiosity.... Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #19
Beto O'Rourke JI7 Sep 2019 #2
Isn't he like, at 3% or less? cwydro Sep 2019 #17
I'm confident Trump will lose in a fair election captain queeg Sep 2019 #3
I agree totally randr Sep 2019 #6
There will be GOP voter suppression Gothmog Sep 2019 #13
At least Israel uses paper ballots MyMission Sep 2019 #5
VP choice will be geographical randr Sep 2019 #7
Or from the south MyMission Sep 2019 #9
. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #8
Marianne Williamson, love defeats hate IronLionZion Sep 2019 #10
Trump can win re-election according to the betting odds Gothmog Sep 2019 #11
I'm not assuming anything. cwydro Sep 2019 #16
Interesting question, but what I'm hearing is: NurseJackie Sep 2019 #18
 

BootinUp

(47,144 posts)
1. I think u underestimate the stupidity we have to
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:29 PM
Sep 2019

Overcome.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

randr

(12,412 posts)
4. I think he will be in some deep shit soon
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 10:22 PM
Sep 2019

In any case, I am curious about who we would choose were we not running against Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
12. Most POTUS are re-elected
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 12:53 AM
Sep 2019

We cannot assume that trump will lose

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
14. Disagree. This election is as close to a sure thing as it gets.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:49 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
15. If the Demcoratic Party nominates a weak or far left candidate, then trump can easily win
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:31 AM
Sep 2019

The betting markets are giving trump great odds of being re-elected


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
19. Just out of curiosity....
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:41 AM
Sep 2019

...how many non-Joe Biden candidates are not "weak" or "far-left"?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
17. Isn't he like, at 3% or less?
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:33 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

captain queeg

(10,196 posts)
3. I'm confident Trump will lose in a fair election
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 09:45 PM
Sep 2019

There in lies the rub. As long as the election is on the up and up Trump will lose massively. And I think it’ll be so lopsided even if and when the repugs cheat, it won’t be enough.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
13. There will be GOP voter suppression
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 12:56 AM
Sep 2019

I volunteer in voter protection. We are gearing up but there will be a fight. Controlling the office of Governor in North Carolina, Michigan and Wisconsin will help

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
5. At least Israel uses paper ballots
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 10:24 PM
Sep 2019

Which are counted under observers scrutiny.

Our electronic voting is full of problems and potential fraud on many levels. But if BB, who is facing corruption charges like rump, has lost his edge I want to believe 45 will lose too

Our society is also full of fraud and corruption. Just saw a headline on how wall Street does not want Warren. She is too scrupulous for them, they fear her plans of regulations.

That said, I hate to say what I've perceived since he announced his candidacy.
Biden has the best chance. He's not my choice, but many trust him, see him as safe, not disruptive, and he represents the status quo. We need to change the status quo, and if elected he may be the catalyst.

Some who voted for Trump could easily vote for another old white guy of a certain era. And he's a bit of a buffoon, which the general public seem to embrace. I'd rather have a smart, progressive younger president.

I think Biden is too old, but for the sake of winning we may need to support his candidacy.
I'm leaning towards Warren, but I fear too many will oppose her, for different reasons than they opposed Hillary. Spoke with some right wing nuts the other day, I said I don't think USA is ready for a female president. They disagreed. I said I was impressed with Warren, they liked Tulsi best out of all Dem candidates. I think she's a closet repug, and their opinions reinforced mine.

We need to move forward, not backwards, but America is so damaged by this presidency, and fearful. Biden represents safety to too many.

My question is who should his VP be?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

randr

(12,412 posts)
7. VP choice will be geographical
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 10:25 PM
Sep 2019

We need someone from the midwest

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
9. Or from the south
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 10:56 PM
Sep 2019

I forget that geography is often a factor when choosing the VP candidate. I'd like to see a younger, progressive VP candidate if Biden is the nominee.

Klobuchar is only 60, so not too old and may be a good choice, but she is more moderate than I'd like. Abrams has been suggested by some as a VP, she's from the South. Pete Buttigieg is a possibility, very impressive, and younger.

A funny thought, how about Sanders for VP? Two too old white guys?!? But then he's not from the Midwest or the South.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
10. Marianne Williamson, love defeats hate
Wed Sep 18, 2019, 11:09 PM
Sep 2019
or Yang with free money
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
11. Trump can win re-election according to the betting odds
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 12:52 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
16. I'm not assuming anything.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:32 AM
Sep 2019

We assumed that in the last election too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
18. Interesting question, but what I'm hearing is:
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:35 AM
Sep 2019

Interesting question, but what I'm hearing is: "If electability was not an issue, who would you choose?"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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