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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 04:21 PM Sep 2019

Working Families calls on Sanders Campaign to denounce racism, threats of violence.

"We refuse to concede to white terror from the Left as well as the Right."

Since endorsing Elizabeth Warren, Working Families leaders have been on the receiving end of extreme racial abuse, and threats of violence by self identified and well known supporters of Senator Sanders. They have drafted a letter addressed to the Sanders Campaign: We demand that the Sanders campaign unequivocally denounce the racism in its ranks, and issue a public statement separating themselves from these abhorrent attacks.

Excerpt.

This week, the Working Families Party (WFP) issued an endorsement of Presidential contender Elizabeth
Warren. ... And apparently, some folks aren't happy about it.

(WFP) leaders ... are being threatened on a daily basis, by self-identified Sanders supporters, with hateful, violent and racist threats ...These kinds of threats have no place in our movements, and are reminiscent of the threats Black people would receive when daring to vote even though the white supremacists would try and discourage
Black people from doing so.

The virulent, racist attacks on these leaders are unacceptable and dangerous. What do we do when
racism and sexism is present in progressive movements? What is the prospect of strengthening
democracy when old habits just won't die?

Many of us, the undersigned, are no stranger to these kinds of attacks—too many of us receive threats
like these ones every day because we dare to organize our people towards freedom. But if we hope to
take back this democracy. if we dare to struggle for electoral justice. if we really want a world where Black
Lives do in fact matter, all of us must take a stand against these real and persistent threats.

Online attacks, threats and smears against Black leaders are unacceptable — especially when there is so
much at stake for our movements. While we punch horizontally, those who have real power over our lives
take advantage of our disintegration and our disorganization. Bemie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and
perhaps a number of other candidates would be much better than what we've got now. And that is the
real fight ahead of us.

We refuse to concede to white terror from the Left as well as the Right. We can argue about the
differences between Sanders and Warren. but not if we can't be distinguished from our real opposition.

As Black leaders in this movement. we are calling on each other to keep reaching for each other. even
when it gets hard, even when we disagree, even when we're disappointed. We demand that the Sanders
campaign unequivocally denounce the racism in its ranks, and issue a public statement separating
themselves from these abhorrent attacks. And we call on our movement to recommit to the real fight
ahead of us....


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Working Families calls on Sanders Campaign to denounce racism, threats of violence. (Original Post) crazytown Sep 2019 OP
check this thread. Otto Lidenbrock Sep 2019 #1
Wow.. thanks for this.. Retweeted. Cha Sep 2019 #9
This is disqualifying BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #2
Ouch. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #3
Not surprising OKNancy Sep 2019 #4
If the campaign does that they'll have to denounce some of the highest staffers in the campaign. George II Sep 2019 #5
Bernie has millions of Supporters - a few of whom are nuts ritapria Sep 2019 #6
... OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #21
IKR? sheshe2 Sep 2019 #29
Wow! peggysue2 Sep 2019 #7
What is wrong with these people? sheshe2 Sep 2019 #8
same shit as last time JI7 Sep 2019 #10
Yes it is, JI7. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #12
This needs to happen! BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #11
Simple answer, no. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #13
I am so afraid that BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #15
Hey you sheshe2 Sep 2019 #17
Like you, I don't BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #20
I suspect this behavior is coming straight from the top echelons BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #25
With Dem "friends" like these, BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #30
Bernie is calling for Reparations. zentrum Sep 2019 #14
Will Sen. Sanders finally denounce these extremists? mcar Sep 2019 #16
Obviously not all his supporters... murielm99 Sep 2019 #18
Me either mcar Sep 2019 #36
No. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #19
He does always seem to look the other way mcar Sep 2019 #37
I'm suspicious of this whole drama ... philly_bob Sep 2019 #22
If it actually happened? It is right there on twityer for heaven's sake!! nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #26
Well it did happen at the DNC. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #31
I was there when this happen Gothmog Sep 2019 #32
I know, Gothmog. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #33
Thanks Gothmog Sep 2019 #41
I dont know why Sanders attracts people like this. honest.abe Sep 2019 #23
It is subliminal messaging, winks and nods nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #27
Generally people that run toward an extreme attract to same type of people. Blue_true Sep 2019 #40
No evidence that letter is from WFP. Eric J in MN Sep 2019 #24
lmao BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #28
If it's on Reddit it has to be true? No links needed? NT Eric J in MN Sep 2019 #34
Splinter News reports on the letter they have a copy of: betsuni Sep 2019 #38
"He can't control his supporters. The playbook is very clear. Sanders supporters attack, attack, betsuni Sep 2019 #35
Reminds me of what happened to the Black Lives Matter protesters at one of his rallies Blue_true Sep 2019 #39
This type of conduct will alienate voters Gothmog Sep 2019 #42
 

Cha

(296,688 posts)
9. Wow.. thanks for this.. Retweeted.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 04:47 PM
Sep 2019
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TwilightZone

(25,418 posts)
3. Ouch.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 04:36 PM
Sep 2019

As I mentioned in another thread, we should avoid the politics of fear, but that doesn't seem to stop some people.

Plus, when you employ people like David "vote for my guy or people gonna die" Sirota....

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OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
4. Not surprising
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 04:38 PM
Sep 2019

Hillary supporters got the same treatment from a few of the acolytes of you know who.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
5. If the campaign does that they'll have to denounce some of the highest staffers in the campaign.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 04:39 PM
Sep 2019
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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
6. Bernie has millions of Supporters - a few of whom are nuts
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 04:41 PM
Sep 2019

Of course anyone who issues threats against anyone are repulsive creatures …..

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OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
21. ...
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:32 PM
Sep 2019
Since endorsing Elizabeth Warren, Working Families leaders have been on the receiving end of extreme racial abuse, and threats of violence by self identified and well known supporters of Senator Sanders.
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peggysue2

(10,819 posts)
7. Wow!
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 04:44 PM
Sep 2019

This sounds ugly. And personally, I don't see any upside in these intra-party fights. Only a loss of support and donations.

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sheshe2

(83,590 posts)
8. What is wrong with these people?
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 04:45 PM
Sep 2019

These actions need to be condemned.

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JI7

(89,235 posts)
10. same shit as last time
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 04:48 PM
Sep 2019
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sheshe2

(83,590 posts)
12. Yes it is, JI7.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:00 PM
Sep 2019

I have a lot more to say on the subject, however I can't as you well know.

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BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
11. This needs to happen!
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 04:59 PM
Sep 2019

His supporters got out of hand at various times and places in 2016. And his campaign did not denounce them then.

Will it now?

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sheshe2

(83,590 posts)
13. Simple answer, no.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:00 PM
Sep 2019
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BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
15. I am so afraid that
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:01 PM
Sep 2019

you are correct, ss2!

Great to "see" you anyway! As always!

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sheshe2

(83,590 posts)
17. Hey you
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:18 PM
Sep 2019

Haven't been around much...well I read but don't say all that much.

Mom care and forced retirement takes all my energy.

Love ya back, hon.

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BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
20. Like you, I don't
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:23 PM
Sep 2019

say too much - unless I can say something positive.

I do bite my tongue a lot though! And I love posting good articles about EW!

Sorry to hear about your situation and hope that you and your mom are both doing as well as possible.

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BlueMississippi

(776 posts)
25. I suspect this behavior is coming straight from the top echelons
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:13 PM
Sep 2019

Such tactics are likely encouraged -- just as voting for Jill Stein by David Sirota, Nina Turner and Brihana Joy-Grey. Not only encouraged but rewarded with top cushy campaign jobs.

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BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
30. With Dem "friends" like these,
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:20 PM
Sep 2019

Republicans don't have to do anything but sit back and watch gleefully. It's such a shame.

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zentrum

(9,865 posts)
14. Bernie is calling for Reparations.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:00 PM
Sep 2019
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mcar

(42,272 posts)
16. Will Sen. Sanders finally denounce these extremists?
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:03 PM
Sep 2019

It's obviously not all his supporters, but the virulent crowd have been around for a long time.

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murielm99

(30,712 posts)
18. Obviously not all his supporters...
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:21 PM
Sep 2019

However, I don't see anyone else's supporters doing this.

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sheshe2

(83,590 posts)
19. No.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:22 PM
Sep 2019

He did not before and will not now.

Sarandon/ Huerta... Bros booing John Lewis at the convention.

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mcar

(42,272 posts)
37. He does always seem to look the other way
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:55 PM
Sep 2019

He's busy campaigning, you know.

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philly_bob

(2,419 posts)
22. I'm suspicious of this whole drama ...
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:42 PM
Sep 2019

but as a Sanders 2016 supporter, I denounce any "extreme racial abuse and threats of violence" by Sanders supporters ... IF they actually happened.

Hard to track down what really happened -- most of this is links to comments -- I advise people to see what Sanders and Warren say about this.

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BlueMississippi

(776 posts)
26. If it actually happened? It is right there on twityer for heaven's sake!! nt
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:14 PM
Sep 2019
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sheshe2

(83,590 posts)
31. Well it did happen at the DNC.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:28 PM
Sep 2019
Some DNC delegates booed during speeches given by people of color. Here's what was going on.

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12279822/democratic-national-convention-boo-cummings-fudge-platform

We also have a member here that was at the convention and has reported many times about what went on. He was a delegate and his daughter was called the 'C' word when she refused to get her father to change his vote to Sanders.

Not "IF" it happened, it did happen.
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Gothmog

(144,845 posts)
32. I was there when this happen
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:29 PM
Sep 2019
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sheshe2

(83,590 posts)
33. I know, Gothmog.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:33 PM
Sep 2019

I was talking about you but did not want to mention your name. I let you do that.

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Gothmog

(144,845 posts)
41. Thanks
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 12:19 AM
Sep 2019

This incidents described in the OP are very familiar to me

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honest.abe

(8,607 posts)
23. I dont know why Sanders attracts people like this.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 05:55 PM
Sep 2019

Seems there are quite a few... more than any of the other campaigns.

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BlueMississippi

(776 posts)
27. It is subliminal messaging, winks and nods nt
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:15 PM
Sep 2019
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
40. Generally people that run toward an extreme attract to same type of people.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:57 PM
Sep 2019

Senator Sanders has good ideas, but he has seemed to always be a "my way or the highway type".

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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
24. No evidence that letter is from WFP.
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:06 PM
Sep 2019

Anyone can post a letter to Reddit.

The letter isn't at the WFP website. I'm subscribed to WFP emails but didn't receive it. No journalist posted the letter.

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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
34. If it's on Reddit it has to be true? No links needed? NT
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:33 PM
Sep 2019

NT

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betsuni

(25,357 posts)
35. "He can't control his supporters. The playbook is very clear. Sanders supporters attack, attack,
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 06:35 PM
Sep 2019

attack anyone that challenges Senator Sanders. They did it to me this morning. I was added to a list called 'human garbage' and I'm not even running for president. Sanders supporters are very clear if anyone challenges King Sanders they are there to destroy and divide and there will be no unity. We can pretend there is, but I know the playbook and I know it well, and we will see it all play out next year. It's going to be telling to see if people are really interested in other policies or ideas or are they just simply part of Sanders' cult."
Former Sanders staffer Tezlyn Figaro

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
39. Reminds me of what happened to the Black Lives Matter protesters at one of his rallies
Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:48 PM
Sep 2019

in 2016, or the gauntlet of hate that Hillary supporters had to walk through in California later that same year.

If this keeps up in 2020, we just have to immediately write off that faction, don't let them stain our platform meeting or convention. Spend our efforts working our asses off to get more of the 40% non-voters voting this time around.

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Gothmog

(144,845 posts)
42. This type of conduct will alienate voters
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:07 AM
Sep 2019
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