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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:17 PM Sep 2019

The NYT's Ken Vogel on Biden. Two tweets comment on the video, draw your own conclusions.

Asha Rangappa
@AshaRangappa_

So basically Vogel is saying that if Trump and Rudy would tone it down and not make it so obvious that they are illegally seeking foreign election assistance it would be much easier for the NYT to help them weaponize the disinformation they are trying to spread 🤔




Aaron Rupar
@atrupar

Here's @kenvogel of the New York Times saying on MSNBC that he views Joe Biden son's work in Ukraine as "a significant liability for Joe Biden." "There is a story here," Vogel adds, saying "we're going to continue to, sort of, pull that back." (I'm sure Trump is very grateful!)


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The NYT's Ken Vogel on Biden. Two tweets comment on the video, draw your own conclusions. (Original Post) Miles Archer Sep 2019 OP
I'm pretty sure this will backfire on shithole. Iliyah Sep 2019 #1
Ken Vogel is David Sirota's buddy -- enough said. nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #2
Oh really? Cha Sep 2019 #8
I messed up (but fixed it, see below)...it's Ken Vogel. Sorry. n/t Miles Archer Sep 2019 #10
P.S. please see here for more on nyt "lofty" reporting.. Cha Sep 2019 #11
I heard this too. It was appalling. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #3
You're right, I fixed it, thank you Miles Archer Sep 2019 #4
I'm done with NYT, time to cancel my subscription. AJT Sep 2019 #5
trump retweeted a nyt story on it so they're carrying his H20.. Cha Sep 2019 #6
Remember when the NYT was crowing about an "exclusive" on that lie book Clinton Cash? emulatorloo Sep 2019 #7
I'll never forget mcar Sep 2019 #9
You're welcome... Miles Archer Sep 2019 #12
Yes.. I remember a lot of the nyt pushing bullshit.. Cha Sep 2019 #14
Yep. Scurrilous Sep 2019 #16
So glad I dropped my subscription to the NYTimes, and subscribe to the Washington Post still_one Sep 2019 #13
Yeah! Please see this from the WaPo on the nyt.. Cha Sep 2019 #15
Thanks Cha still_one Sep 2019 #17
 

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. I'm pretty sure this will backfire on shithole.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:25 PM
Sep 2019
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BlueMississippi

(776 posts)
2. Ken Vogel is David Sirota's buddy -- enough said. nt
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:27 PM
Sep 2019

Last edited Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:44 PM - Edit history (1)

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
10. I messed up (but fixed it, see below)...it's Ken Vogel. Sorry. n/t
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:47 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
3. I heard this too. It was appalling.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:30 PM
Sep 2019

By the way, I thought it was Ken Vogel, but I'm probably wrong. IMO he is way worse than Haberman.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
4. You're right, I fixed it, thank you
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:34 PM
Sep 2019
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AJT

(5,240 posts)
5. I'm done with NYT, time to cancel my subscription.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:42 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(297,222 posts)
6. trump retweeted a nyt story on it so they're carrying his H20..
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:45 PM
Sep 2019
But that has not stopped Giuliani, who tweeted last week: “how deep and how high did the alleged Ukraine conspiracy go?” He was responding to a story in the New York Times (the Times apparently not “failing” on this occasion, since Trump retweeted the paper’s story), which analyzed the theories around the Bidens’ Ukraine connection. The article ticked all the journalistic boxes, giving father and son space to deny wrongdoing, but still raised a cloud of smoke for those shouting “fire.” If a major newspaper devotes 2,500 words to conflict-of-interest questions, then those questions presumably exist. How often do you beat your wife?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/08/why-joe-bidens-alleged-ukraine-conspiracy-doesnt-hold-up/

Retweeted AshaRangappa! Thank you, Miles!
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emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
7. Remember when the NYT was crowing about an "exclusive" on that lie book Clinton Cash?
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:45 PM
Sep 2019

The book was discredited before it was even published. Yet they kept running stories based on that Mercer funded pack of lies.

So it does surprise me to hear Vogel pedaling this bullshit about Biden.

Thanks for posting!

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mcar

(42,331 posts)
9. I'll never forget
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:47 PM
Sep 2019

NYT has to do both sides, and in their opinion, Democrats are always worse.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
12. You're welcome...
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:50 PM
Sep 2019

...as I said in the OP, I came to my own conclusions after watching the video and reading the two tweets I shared, and I wanted to see what DU thought about it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,222 posts)
14. Yes.. I remember a lot of the nyt pushing bullshit..
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:53 PM
Sep 2019

Here's more "reporting" from the nyt..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=288473

Mahalo, emulatorloo..

P.S. did you mean it doesn't surprise you about Ken Vogel?

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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
16. Yep.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:00 PM
Sep 2019

They were giving that book away for free but the NYTimes paid to excerpt it in their rag.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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still_one

(92,190 posts)
13. So glad I dropped my subscription to the NYTimes, and subscribe to the Washington Post
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:51 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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