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"Leave Joe Biden alone." --Kamala Harris earlier today in Iowa (Original Post) PunkinPi Sep 2019 OP
Cause she's got class! Iliyah Sep 2019 #1
Also, because I am pretty sure she is aware that that was the policy of the Obama and bush still_one Sep 2019 #3
Exactly! Cha Sep 2019 #6
Oh yeah! mcar Sep 2019 #2
Hope every candidate will follow @SenKamalaHarris's lead Cha Sep 2019 #45
I think that Kamala is getting ready to settle for VP More_Cowbell Sep 2019 #4
"getting ready to settle for VP" FailureToCommunicate Sep 2019 #12
we'd be the ones settling for the president Skittles Sep 2019 #27
Absolutely not! She's far more effective as a Senator or in the Cabinet. Besides... TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #13
Except Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and Barack Obama StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #34
She's been running for VP for a while now SCantiGOP Sep 2019 #17
I honestly don't think this one is over. musicblind Sep 2019 #44
lol.. Yeah.. this on trump and ghouli.. she Cha Sep 2019 #5
Biden/Harris would be a hell of a team . . Iliyah Sep 2019 #7
Yes it would.. luv your HRC sign by the way.. one class act she is Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #16
Bravo Kamala!! onetexan Sep 2019 #8
Kamala should take her own advice!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #9
so she shouldn't call out trump lies ? JI7 Sep 2019 #10
I'm talking about Kamala not leaving Joe alone during the 1st debate... InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #29
Debates aren't friendly, back-slapping gatherings Tarc Sep 2019 #38
I don't disagree... it's just seemed a bit strange that Kamala said that in that context. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #39
she made 2 main mistakes, one was foundational, the other was a gamble that did not pay off Celerity Sep 2019 #14
Lovely. A patriotic and eloquent defense of democracy. She rightfully points out the duty of the emmaverybo Sep 2019 #11
.. Cha Sep 2019 #20
Good for her! highplainsdem Sep 2019 #15
She wants to be his running mate Polybius Sep 2019 #18
Are you suggesting she wouldn't be defending Biden unless she wanted to be his running mate? highplainsdem Sep 2019 #21
Thank you for saying this StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #35
I criticized her and now I'm applauding her.. and Cha Sep 2019 #36
I figure that is where this is going directly to Congress. gordianot Sep 2019 #19
👍😊 Gelliebeans Sep 2019 #22
Brava, Kamala! brer cat Sep 2019 #23
Brava, Kamala Harris peggysue2 Sep 2019 #24
Well done, Senator Hekate Sep 2019 #25
Agree! Cha Sep 2019 #31
Trump plans to knock off all the Dems one at a time. Getting under their skin, into their heads, ... Hekate Sep 2019 #26
Biden / Harris world wide wally Sep 2019 #28
I respect this deeply. herding cats Sep 2019 #30
Love to you, Cats! Cha Sep 2019 #40
I love you too, Cha! herding cats Sep 2019 #41
I miss you, too! I saw your Cha Sep 2019 #42
Senator Harris has decorum, decency, dignity, courage and class PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #32
K&R Scurrilous Sep 2019 #33
Kick for Kamala! Cha Sep 2019 #37
I've said it before and I'll say it again. musicblind Sep 2019 #43
This is one of the reasons I love Kamala Sunsky Sep 2019 #46
 

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. Cause she's got class!
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:44 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,061 posts)
3. Also, because I am pretty sure she is aware that that was the policy of the Obama and bush
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 07:48 PM
Sep 2019

administration, that the Ukraine Prosecutor was not pursuing corruption cases, and should be removed. Most Western leaders also agreed with that assessment also


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Cha

(296,846 posts)
45. Hope every candidate will follow @SenKamalaHarris's lead
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 06:22 AM
Sep 2019


Joyce Alene is Woke!
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More_Cowbell

(2,190 posts)
4. I think that Kamala is getting ready to settle for VP
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:04 PM
Sep 2019

She's right about Trump and Biden, though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
12. "getting ready to settle for VP"
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:12 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skittles

(153,111 posts)
27. we'd be the ones settling for the president
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 10:33 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
13. Absolutely not! She's far more effective as a Senator or in the Cabinet. Besides...
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:17 PM
Sep 2019

Candidates rarely choose their competitors as Veep.

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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
34. Except Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and Barack Obama
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 11:59 PM
Sep 2019

But other than that ...

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SCantiGOP

(13,865 posts)
17. She's been running for VP for a while now
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:42 PM
Sep 2019

N/T

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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musicblind

(4,484 posts)
44. I honestly don't think this one is over.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 03:52 AM
Sep 2019

Right now it looks like it's going to be either Warren or Biden, BUT I've seen things change so fast in the past and since 2016, elections seem so erratic... I believe Harris, Buttigieg, Sanders, Booker, and even O'Rourke all still have a shot at this. Though I feel like O'Rourke's shot is getting longer by the day. O'Rourke's a really great guy from all I've seen, but he needs some good fortune at his back and soon.

If Kamala Harris settled for VP this early on, I think she'd be making a huge mistake.

And that's coming from a person whose first choice is Joe Biden. I don't want someone like Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren, someone who truly feel this office is their calling, to just settle. As long as no one is out there smearing fellow democrats, I say keep duking it out until at least the Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada caucus/primaries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,846 posts)
5. lol.. Yeah.. this on trump and ghouli.. she
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:08 PM
Sep 2019

knows that!

Mahalo, Kamala!

Thank you, Punkin!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. Biden/Harris would be a hell of a team . .
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:15 PM
Sep 2019

Both fighters!

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Thekaspervote

(32,705 posts)
16. Yes it would.. luv your HRC sign by the way.. one class act she is
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:36 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
9. Kamala should take her own advice!!
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:29 PM
Sep 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JI7

(89,239 posts)
10. so she shouldn't call out trump lies ?
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:05 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
29. I'm talking about Kamala not leaving Joe alone during the 1st debate...
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 10:49 PM
Sep 2019

but, you obviously already knew that.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tarc

(10,472 posts)
38. Debates aren't friendly, back-slapping gatherings
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 08:10 AM
Sep 2019

Joe handled himself just fine, his followers should follow his lead and spine up a bit.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
39. I don't disagree... it's just seemed a bit strange that Kamala said that in that context.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 09:11 AM
Sep 2019

Politics is not beanbag... so why should any candidate, from any party, leave any other candidate alone? It's gonna be a battle royal... so let's dance!! As the old saying goes: if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Celerity

(43,105 posts)
14. she made 2 main mistakes, one was foundational, the other was a gamble that did not pay off
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:30 PM
Sep 2019
1. She never should have went hard left, and thus into the lane owned by Sanders and Warren. She should have matched, say Buttigieg, policy-wise, going with a slightly to the left of Biden stance and plans, but still a very clear and lucid centre-left solid liberal course.

Pete is being knee-capped by two main things (and both are centred with my fellow black voters): his sexual orientation (older A-A's, especial the fundie religious ones in the South are way behind most other demos in terms of LGBTQ acceptance, especial gay males) and then the South Bend PD issues, especially that tragic shooting that halted all his momentum (he was zooming up the charts and even had went to 7% with black voters in in South Carolina, right before the shooting.) The Boykins issue was much more nebulous and so mis-reported, and he had, more or less somewhat contained that damage. Harris has/had neither of those issues.

Harris, if she had mirrored (with her own flair of course put in) Pete in terms of an overall stance and policy scheme, would have had far less resistance, and not have had to walk back her support for MFA, which (fair or unfair) was disastrous and made her look unclear and a semi-flipper. She could have really had a clear path to challenge Biden for the centrist and centre-left votes.

2. Her calculated attack on Biden. She went for a boundary shot and instead got bowled out (a little cricket analogy there, lol). I am sure she would not do it again given a time machine, but, well, time machines do not exist (yet?) and hindsight is 20/20.


I would, if Biden doesn't pick Stacey Abrams, LOVE to see Harris as VP (I have changed my mind on this to a point, as she finally dumped the pipe dream that is MFA.) I still think Abrams puts more states into solid play (specifically NC, FL, GA) than Harris does, BUT both would be superb choices. Susan Rice, whose name I see tossed around a fair amount for VP, unfortunately drops that damn RW stinkbomb that is Benghazi right into the playpen, something I do not see the risk-adverse Biden wanting to roll the dice on. The other, (and non-female) VP option I see Joe going for is Obama potential POTUS-favourite (for years) Deval Patrick, who is very compatible with Biden from a philosophical standpoint and is a wonderful speaker as well. Maybe toss Cedric Richmond into that mix as well. He is also dynamic, and obviously very close with Biden, as he is helping run his campaign atm.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
11. Lovely. A patriotic and eloquent defense of democracy. She rightfully points out the duty of the
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:06 PM
Sep 2019

president and the congress and reaches out to the Whistle-blower with her own authority.

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highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
15. Good for her!
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:36 PM
Sep 2019

Brava, Senator Harris!

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Polybius

(15,334 posts)
18. She wants to be his running mate
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:49 PM
Sep 2019

I can see that happening if he wins the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
21. Are you suggesting she wouldn't be defending Biden unless she wanted to be his running mate?
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 10:14 PM
Sep 2019

I don't think that's fair to her.

Kudos to her for defending Joe Biden by name.

All of our candidates should be doing that. If Trump were going after any of the others the way he's going after Biden, he''d be defending them, very directly, and probably at length, as usual.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
35. Thank you for saying this
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 12:02 AM
Sep 2019

When she criticized him, people went after her. When she's gracious to him, people go after her.

I'm starting to wonder if some people just want her to be silent ...

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Cha

(296,846 posts)
36. I criticized her and now I'm applauding her.. and
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 12:25 AM
Sep 2019

so are the majority on this thread.

And, 62 RECS so far!

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gordianot

(15,233 posts)
19. I figure that is where this is going directly to Congress.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 10:04 PM
Sep 2019

What is the use of playing by the rules in a country without rules? Someone will go down fighting after all this conflict was started by bullies and cowards.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Gelliebeans

(5,043 posts)
22. 👍😊
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 10:17 PM
Sep 2019

They should all stand together. 👏 I imagine they all will release a statement in the coming days.

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Undecided
 

peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
24. Brava, Kamala Harris
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 10:21 PM
Sep 2019

Wish all our candidates would unite on this one because regardless of who our eventual nominee is Trump and his enablers will go to any length to smear reputations, make up fake stories and run continuous propaganda pieces. The Trump team has too much to lose if Don the Con fails to win a 2nd term.

This is going to be junkyard dogfight.

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Hekate

(90,556 posts)
25. Well done, Senator
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 10:22 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hekate

(90,556 posts)
26. Trump plans to knock off all the Dems one at a time. Getting under their skin, into their heads, ...
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 10:24 PM
Sep 2019

...and ruining them. Breaking their hearts if he can.

It is what he does.

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world wide wally

(21,738 posts)
28. Biden / Harris
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 10:45 PM
Sep 2019

As I've said it d all along

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herding cats

(19,558 posts)
30. I respect this deeply.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 11:13 PM
Sep 2019

Kamala is trying to break that cycle here. I appreciate that deeply. I still like her a lot, even though that's not cool since I'm a Biden supporter. Screw it, no one owns me, and no one owns my mind but me.

I think our candidates are for the most part getting the feel of how Trump's playing the game.

Before anyone judges my comment, I'll passionately support the nominee with my time (I plan to travel if I need to) and my vote. They'll have my money without a doubt.

I'm in this to win it this time, period. All the drama prone folks... have fun, but people like me are the majority right now. I love so many of our candidates deeply, but I'm not tearing down anyone and I've been lifting up several on my social media outlets.

Y'all keep being you, and I'll keep being me. Ultimately it's a test to see if good triumphs over evil. We're all doing our things where we chose to fight.

I'm knocking down Russian trolls hand over fist on social media, as are my friends who support a myriad of candidates. Even still I have a 6% following from Russia. I'm not making that up, it's in Twitters metrics. Some extend back as far as 2013 and are currently dormant accounts I can't get them banned. I haven't flushed them all out yet, but I will eventually.

This is modern reality everyone. This fight is big and on so many fronts. More than most realize!

Me and my peers want to win before anything else in 2020. As we all should. We're #BlueNoMatterWho people. We're different but we are the same when it comes to saving our democracy.

Peace to everyone here. Here's to a blue wave in 2020!

Love to all here,

Cats

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Cha

(296,846 posts)
40. Love to you, Cats!
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 08:51 PM
Sep 2019

Mahalo for your post

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herding cats

(19,558 posts)
41. I love you too, Cha!
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 08:05 PM
Sep 2019

My deepest hope is we knock down enough trolls and take back our democracy from foreign intervention. We're working on it, but they keep propagating. It's literally a game of whack a mole,daily.



We're smarter this time. I had no clue the Russian trolls were on social media in 2013, but the proof is there. I've seen it with my own eyes. Luckily it was a test run and we didn't succumb. We know better now and we're coordinating to combat them. We can't rely on social media's algorithms to control them, because it literally kneecaps those of us fighting them. If the MAGA accounts see what we're doing they report and get us shadowbaned, put in timeout, or comment deboosted. It is what it is and it's ugly.

We're #StrongerTogether against this mess, but it's not easy to put out the RW/Russian fires.

I miss you!

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Cha

(296,846 posts)
42. I miss you, too! I saw your
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:18 AM
Sep 2019

post before I took the bus to the beach and knew I would respond when I got back.

Mahalo for all you're doing to combat Russian trolls, Cats.. I know it must be so hard with twitter not giving as much ***** as they should.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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PhoenixDem

(581 posts)
32. Senator Harris has decorum, decency, dignity, courage and class
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 11:17 PM
Sep 2019

Brava!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,846 posts)
37. Kick for Kamala!
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 06:29 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
43. I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 03:47 AM
Sep 2019

She'd make a great president.

Whoever the nominee is, I hope we win in 2020. I miss having an adult in the White House.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
46. This is one of the reasons I love Kamala
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 08:24 AM
Sep 2019

We will not fall for their divisive tactics. I'm no Biden supporter but this Ukraine scandal, is a Trump scandal not a Biden scandal as the right and some in the media would like you to believe. Biden did nothing wrong.
It's time for us the go on the offensive and not be defensive.

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