Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumKen Vogel's claim of a Biden "liability" - Nonsense, concludes a Washington Post Fact Checker piece.
The Washington Post, May 2019:
"For the purposes of fact checking Trumps statement, though, we note that neither news organization is asserting that Biden pushed to oust Shokin to get his son out of a jam.
Bloomberg reported that the U.S. plan to push for Shokins dismissal didnt initially come from Biden, but rather filtered up from officials at the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, according to a person with direct knowledge of the situation and that, in the same month Biden traveled to Ukraine, hundreds of Ukrainians demonstrated outside President Petro Poroshenkos office demanding Shokins resignation, and he was dismissed.
The current prosecutor general of Ukraine, Yuriy Lutsenko, was quoted in a May 16 report, also by Bloomberg, saying he had no evidence of wrongdoing by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden or his son. Hunter Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws at least as of now, we do not see any wrongdoing, Lutsenko told Bloomberg. A company can pay however much it wants to its board.
No evidence has surfaced that the former vice president intentionally tried to help his son by pressing for the prosecutor generals dismissal, the Times reported. Some of his former associates, moreover, said Mr. Biden never did anything to deter other Obama administration officials who were pushing for the United States to support criminal investigations by Ukrainian and British authorities and potentially to start its own investigation into Burisma and its owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, for possible money laundering and abuse of office."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/05/23/fact-checking-president-trumps-wild-jabs-joe-biden/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(102,276 posts)at his implications.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zoonart
(11,866 posts)To be turned around on Biden is beyond fucked up.
This needs to be smacked down and smacked down hard.
I am so sick of this shit.
MF45 and his criminal cartel are breaking the kaw and shitting on the Constitution every day... But lets look at Biden?! Bullshit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,061 posts)BEFORE this BS spreads.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)It's t-rump that is constantly looking over his shoulder.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,230 posts)https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/08/why-joe-bidens-alleged-ukraine-conspiracy-doesnt-hold-up/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Polly Hennessey
(6,797 posts)I watched the segment on Nicolles show. I had the impression Vogel had his panties in a wad because no one paid any attention to his May 2019 story on the Ukraine/Hunter Biden issue. Ken, baby, it might be because you were trying to smear Biden through his son. I wont forget your Hillary hating, either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,230 posts)this Vogel person.. but I don't have a tv.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)Once I saw Ken Vogel and their short clip of Biden being asked about his son's business in the Ukraine, I knew that this was where it was headed. Lo and behold, Chuck Todd and Brian Williams are going there, too. This was utterly predictable.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden