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lindysalsagal

(20,666 posts)
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 11:12 AM Sep 2019

WAPO has the accusations against Hunter Biden: about a loan guarantee:

Seems to me, if you want a loan, there might be strings attached. This is not a scandal. Don't like the conditions? Get your money elsewhere. I still love Joe and so will democrats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-ukraine-scandal-may-also-hurt-bidens-campaign/2019/09/20/772aaba0-dbe6-11e9-ac63-3016711543fe_story.html

Trump’s campaign has spent months focused on Biden’s family, attempting to cast the former senator and vice president as a lifelong politician whose family has been personally enriched off his powerful positions.

Trump’s lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani has suggested that Biden improperly used his influence to get Ukraine to dismiss its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, in 2016. The prosecutor general’s office had opened an investigation into Burisma Holdings, a national gas company on whose board Hunter Biden had a position starting in April 2014.

Biden traveled to Ukraine in March 2016 and said the United States would withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees unless Shokin was removed.

The push was part of a wider effort — which involved other Western allies as well as the International Monetary Fund and World Bank — to remove Shokin, who was viewed as corrupt.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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WAPO has the accusations against Hunter Biden: about a loan guarantee: (Original Post) lindysalsagal Sep 2019 OP
Trump has a lot of nerve Ohiogal Sep 2019 #1
With them, it's all about BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #2
I don't think that was the accusation. lindysalsagal Sep 2019 #4
The press has investigated the Biden/Ukraine story and found that the claims against Biden are bogus Gothmog Sep 2019 #3
 

Ohiogal

(31,977 posts)
1. Trump has a lot of nerve
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 11:19 AM
Sep 2019

Accusing anyone of enriching themselves from government power!

I swear, the concept of hypocrisy is totally lost on these sycophants.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
2. With them, it's all about
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 12:16 PM
Sep 2019

projecting their own bad behavior and instincts on everyone else.

They really see no hypocrisy in that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lindysalsagal

(20,666 posts)
4. I don't think that was the accusation.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 03:24 PM
Sep 2019

Unless I'm misunderstanding, lots of governments were attempting the same bargain to get the guy removed. It was never about lining anyone's pocket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
3. The press has investigated the Biden/Ukraine story and found that the claims against Biden are bogus
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 01:12 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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