Biden in Des Moines: "Trump's doing this because he knows I'll beat him like a drum"

[Miles Archer]

VIDEO at the URL.

On Saturday in Des Moines, Iowa, former Vice President Joe Biden furiously laid into President Donald Trump amid reports he tried to strong-arm the Ukrainian government into digging up dirt on him and his son.

“Here’s what I know, I know Trump deserves to be investigated,” said Biden. “He is violating every basic norm of a president. You should be asking him the question, why is he on the phone with a foreign leader trying to intimidate a foreign leader, if that’s what happened? That appears to have happened. You should be looking at Trump. Trump’s doing this because he knows I’ll beat him like a drum and he’s using the abuse of power and every element of the presidency to try to do something to smear me.”

“Depending on what the House finds, he could be impeached, but I’m not making that judgment now,” continued Biden. “This appears to be an overwhelming abuse of power. To get on the phone with a foreign leader who is looking for help from the United States and ask about me and imply things — if that’s what happened, that appears to be what happened — we know that’s what Giuliani did. This is outrageous. You have never seen anything like this from any president.”

“I know what I’m up against,” Biden added to reporters asking whether it changes anything for his campaign. “I know what I’m up against, a serial abuser. That’s what this guy is. Abuses power anywhere he can, and if he sees any threat to his staying in power, he’ll do whatever he has to do. But this crosses the line. This crosses the line. I’m calling the president to release the transcript of the call, let everybody hear what it is. Let the House see it and see what he did. That’s what I’m calling on.”

Watch below: https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/furious-biden-goes-scorched-earth-on-serial-abuser-trump-over-smears-in-epic-rant/

[CatMor]

1. Biden is not afraid to speak out against trump ...

he is doing it using grown up words instead of childish rhetoric and silly names. Biden has to keep fighting the bloated orange bully and never let up.

[Miles Archer]

2. The "story" Trump wants to tell is far from an "imbroglio."

It's a story that neither Biden nor his son want to tell, but it's not a "career-ending scandal," and Trump is trying to deflect and turn it into exactly that.

I'm not Joe Biden, I can't speak for him, but if I were in the same shoes, I'd feel that the issue is that Trump is attempting to bully him, and that will go on for only so long.

There are two things we don't know today.

We don't know if Biden will become the Democratic candidate for president.

We don't know that Trump will agree to participate in debates with the Democratic candidate.

But if it is Joe, and if Trump shows up for the debates, Biden will flatten him.

And Trump knows this.

[CatMor]

9. The complicated story is trump and his dirty dealings ...

that go back many years. He is as crooked as they come. You are right that we don't know who the nominee will be but I'm sure Biden will keep on fighting trump even if it's not him. I would love to see them debate.

[patphil]

25. I agree, Trump is really scared of Biden.

[Gothmog]

3. The press has investigated this story and have found that any claims about Biden are bogus

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[Buckeyeblue]

4. This will be interesting

This puts Trump on defense. Of course Trump won't release the call. Biden and the other candidates are free to make this an issue. Keep it in the news.

[DownriverDem]

11. The Best Candidate

is Biden. Don't you think so?

[Buckeyeblue]

20. I think he is an excellent candidate and the least risky candidate

I think they all have good ideas. But on day 1 Biden will be able to start doing the work to restore our standing in the world. The world knows him and respects him. I also think he'll try to approach policy in a bi-partisan way as long as Republicans are willing to cooperate.

Joe Biden might be the person we need to be president.

[Iliyah]

5. VP Biden knows how to handle bullies . . .

[DownriverDem]

12. So how about

supporting Biden? You know he's the best to beat trump.

[BlueMississippi]

6. This is a preview of taking him behind the building

and knocking Trump's teeth out

[emmaverybo]

7. But for Harris, Biden is not getting support from the other candidates. Warren addressed Trump's

corruption, charged congress with complicity, called for impeachment, left out the fact that this latest potential crime was one intended to destroy Joe Biden.

I am disappointed to see that neither Warren nor the others, save for Harris, can suspend competition for a moment, transcend political self-interest, to unequivocally defend Joe Biden. He was, after all, Obama’s VP, a long serving public servant, one who has given freely of his advice and support to Dem candidates, including to some of them.

Also disgusting to see NYT pushing a horse-race angle—maybe Biden goes under with Trump if the truth be told! Raking for muck.

In the Ukraine phone call story, the big picture must focus on Trump’s alleged crimes and cover-up,
but Biden is under siege—eight times Trump tried to dig the dirt. Fellow-Dems, rivals or not, should
express outrage, specifically on his behalf.

[DownriverDem]

13. Those candidates

will regret not supporting Biden. Maybe a Biden/Harris ticket is in the works.

[calguy]

38. Yes. I feel it too.

When the primaries are over and Biden is the nominee, the ticket will be Biden/ Harris. Harris seems well prepared and qualified to prosecute the case against trump. She knows she's not going to be the nominee, and it seems like her actions lately have been focused on attacking trum, especially in the last debate. Her latest statements defending Biden against trump's attacks just seem to be auditioning for the VP slot.

[Skidmore]

23. Which is why

I will not lend support to any candidate who helps Trump in this campaign of lies to destroy our last duly elected vice president. A Biden -Harris ticket sounds great to me. Piling on Joe does not speak well to trustworthiness.

[Cha]

42. There's this from Beto, emmaverybo...

Link to tweet

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=288750

[emmaverybo]

43. Thanks I am seeing that now. Well Beto is a good egg.

[Freethinker65]

8. Hoor-fucking-ray for Biden!!!! That is the only story here. Abuse of Presidential Power. Hammer away

Never was a fan of Biden, but this is perfect.

Go Joe!!!

[DownriverDem]

15. How about now?

I am a big fan of Biden. You look like you could be persuaded.

[Freethinker65]

19. If Biden can stay on message, he will get the nomination and I will gladly vote for him

[peggysue2]

10. Kamala Harris gets big props . . .

for going on the record and defending Joe Biden. Because that's what we need is a united front against the gaslighting coming from the White House. Why is this important for all our candidates? Because this is just a taste of what the Trumpers will throw during the GE. Regardless of who our nominee is, the garbage spew will be nonstop, ugly and outrageous. This isn't just an attack on Biden and his reputation; it's an attack on all of us, who we are, what we believe in, the rule of law.

Btw, this brazen attack will not help any other candidate; it will merely set the standard for the entire election. All of our candidates need to start pounding on this drum and shining lights on the gross corruption, abuse of power that threatens the security of the United States.

This is exactly what it's all about and why losing 2020 is not an option!

[emmaverybo]

44. Agree agree

[efhmc]

14. I think all of our candidates are fabulous, especially compared to DJT.

[DownriverDem]

16. Really

We need to pick one.

[efhmc]

18. Interesting concept.

[cwydro]

26. That's what the primaries are for.

We’ll pick one, and time will tell who it’ll be.

[DownriverDem]

32. My pick

is who will win, not who I like. Biden is our best candidate to win the Electoral College which is state by state and beat trump.

[cwydro]

36. Well, you've certainly made that clear.

Many of us are not so sure.

I do like Biden, but I’m not sure he’s up to this.

[NBachers]

17. Go Joe!

[cstanleytech]

21. But if Biden wins will he actually do anything about what we all think Trump has done or will it be

allowed to get swept under the carpet? Personally I think whoever beats Trump should order the new DOJ under whoever replaces Barr to do a complete investigation into what Trump and everyone in his administration have done and to prosecute anyone for any crimes they may have committed.

[SunSeeker]

24. Exactly. The GOP investigated the shit out of Hillary after she left office.

We should do the same to the GOP, who ACTUALLY committed crimes, unlike Hillary.

[DownriverDem]

35. I believe

he will. He will have a very involved VP too. Biden running with a strong, progressive, Dem woman would be a formidable ticket.

[treestar]

22. That is the way to talk to and about

that Big Orange Bully.

[sprinkleeninow]

27. As per a tweet in this thread: 'DUMP THE DUPER'.

Duplicitous self-serving duper.

[njhoneybadger]

28. That's the way you do it. People in America respect a fighter

Contrast that with.....never mind

[VarryOn]

29. Seems like J.B. has been hitting his stride a little lately...

I like it. And I still think he’s probably the least one Trump wants to run against.

[H2O Man]

30. Recommended.

[True Blue American]

31. Trump lie debunked!

https://hillreporter.com/new-report-debunks-the-joe-biden-ukrainian-conspiracy-theory-being-put-forth-by-republicans-34517

[oasis]

33. "If it's what you say, I love it". Get after him Joe.

[Scurrilous]

34. K&R

[OKNancy]

37. sort of on topic, but a really good twitter to follow on this subject is

https://twitter.com/anders_aslund

Economist & author. Russia, Ukraine & Eastern Europe

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He was writing and around when all the stuff was happening.

[Joe941]

39. Take in out behind the gym and give it to him!

[Tarheel_Dem]

40. K&R

[ecstatic]

41. "Serial abuser" who "abuses power anywhere he can." Perfect description,

Joe! It's insane!