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highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 04:33 PM Sep 2019

McMullin: Did Trump realize his ploy would place mantle of defending democracy in Biden's hands?

That's paraphrasing, to fit the gist of this tweet from Evan McMullin into the subject line:






I wonder if Trump and Giuliani considered how their Ukraine ploy might place the mantle of defending American democracy in 2020 firmly in the hands of Joe Biden, their most feared rival whose candidacy some had tried to frame as a relic of the past. Probably not.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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McMullin: Did Trump realize his ploy would place mantle of defending democracy in Biden's hands? (Original Post) highplainsdem Sep 2019 OP
So Evan is seeing a sea change in Utah. Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #1
Interesting idea from Cha Sep 2019 #2
I doubt they consider anything bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #3
This whole episode kind of cements the idea that ecstatic Sep 2019 #4
There will be no squirming out from under this. Trump is toast. oasis Sep 2019 #5
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. So Evan is seeing a sea change in Utah.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 04:39 PM
Sep 2019

Interesting. Maybe the Dems will score 39% of the vote this time. Or is Evan worried that his Party will be back benchers for several decades.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,196 posts)
2. Interesting idea from
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 06:10 PM
Sep 2019

McMullin!

I hope it BACKFIRES like that on the traitors to our Democracy!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bucolic_frolic

(43,155 posts)
3. I doubt they consider anything
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 07:44 PM
Sep 2019

cheating is part of the game, as are the public denials and distractions to cover it all up. Long experience convinces them they are very good at it. It's just a matter of creating enough confusion and allowing the right parts of their team to attest to their innocence.

But they never before experienced a situation where the whole world, for and against them, was onto their scheme. There exists no rug to sweep this one underneath.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
4. This whole episode kind of cements the idea that
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 07:48 PM
Sep 2019

Biden is the best bet to defeat trump next fall. trump is truly scared shitless from whatever polling data and russian intel he has available to him. Maybe putin has warned that they can't hack beyond a 1 or 2 % margin without being discovered.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,382 posts)
5. There will be no squirming out from under this. Trump is toast.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 07:56 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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