Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,699 posts)I hope he is transparent about what it will take to help us, as Bernie has been from the start.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....not to mention getting it passed.
When you spend almost 30 years in Washington alienating both Democrats and republicans, you're not going to have many allies willing to go along with what you propose.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,699 posts)That's what we regular people Dems want. Who cares what the elite DC crowd wants?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,699 posts)Mostly boring as hell.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)a minority, nonetheless. Bidens policies include rolling back the tax giveaways. If we have both a Democratic senate and house, you will still not see progressive taxation and investment policies realized in their entirety.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)MOST Democrats support progressive causes. We're not Republicans!!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)center or centrist democrats. I am looking at the polls and the number of moderate democratic house members. If we get a democratic senate, it might also be predominantly moderate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)Do they support the US Constitution? Then that would make them progressive.
Do they support women, minorities, the LGBTQ community having equal rights? Then that would make them progressive.
Do they believe their children deserve clean air and water? Then that would make them believers in progress too.
If they don't support any of those things then they are Republicans.
Or are you merely concerned about style? Surely you are deeper than that. Our country is falling apart, suffering from mass shootings, grotesque income inequality, working overtime beyond the 8 hours per day we once enjoyed, and the president is breaking one law after another.
It's become a matter of just trying to maintain stability and law and order and the people shouting the loudest, the people who actually CARE about having a stable, clean, sane society of laws, are the so-called "progressives."
They are actually proud traditional Americans and you dare to denigrate them?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)for what you are for, and appalled by what appalls you. I simply contended that it may be difficult if not impossible to get the investment plans those who identify as economic policy progressives endorse and the taxation policies to pay for them. Period. You can disagree of course. Then we simply disagree on how feasible these plansin their entiretyare both in terms of political will and actual budget. I understand you to say the consensus is there among the American people.
Fair enough. I think both of us could argue. But lets not need abuse as you point out, we have a common enemy and cause, whatever policy differences and rationales for endorsing one agenda over the other.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)The cost of not pushing HARD for change is slipping back even further into criminal cops and white supremacists KILLING good Americans. The price of doing half measures is to not meet the 1.5f increase in avg. world temperature and setting up a chain reaction in about 10 years where climate changes will race ahead of any damn moderate position you might think is so dandy.
I like Biden. I think he has potential. Please educate him. He's not keeping up and we need all the leadership we can get. I'll vote for any Democrat in 20/20 but I cannot tolerate complacency. I have a son who will inherit this gradual slide into oligarchy and environmental devastation.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Doremus
(7,261 posts)Democrats need to STOP IT.
Do not advance GOPuke propaganda. Do not help them push their agenda.
When they ask "How will we pay for it" answer with this question: "Where was your deep concern when Repukes passed their latest $1 TRILLION DOLLAR tax cut?"
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LincolnRossiter
(560 posts)Uh. No. That's what's called a valid question. No responsible citizen should accept any promise made by any politician without that politician at least giving some broad sketches of what exactly the proposal is and how it's to be funded.
I pay taxes. I care how they're spent. You can't disabuse me of that right by hurling the "RW talking point" defense.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doremus
(7,261 posts)When there are equal howls of protest at each and every billionaire giveaway then I will acquiesce to the legitimacy of the question.
Until then it is a rightwing talking point straight from their "Two Santas" strategy. Whether you say so or not.
We are idiots to support their propaganda efforts.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
PhoenixDem
(581 posts)Just rolling back the Trump and Bush tax cuts and reinstating the State and local tax deductions will increase after tax income by 5% on the average for people making 250K and below. The tax increases will be in the upper brackets back to where they were before the Bush tax cuts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MontanaMama
(23,295 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)Sure sounds like it. I want details.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
applegrove
(118,492 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,848 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MurrayDelph
(5,292 posts)and if he's the candidate I will vote for him.
But his campaigning style sounds too much like John McCain's "I know how to do it, my friend."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hekate
(90,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blue-wave
(4,344 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,848 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,848 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden