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lol!@John Cusack.. Calm Down. (Original Post) Cha Sep 2019 OP
that's some crazy shit. full of victimhood and conspiracies JI7 Sep 2019 #1
Yes, also arrogance & projection. Cha Sep 2019 #4
I've noticed a lot of Sanders supporters become unhinged a bit in the past couple of weeks. W_HAMILTON Sep 2019 #2
Harris has had bad news also but you done see the crazy conspiracy JI7 Sep 2019 #3
Excellent point! Cha Sep 2019 #5
I would say John Cusack Cha Sep 2019 #13
Apparently Cusack thinks the media have lied about Sanders. Buzz cook Sep 2019 #6
He has a platform that a lot of people don't have. Blue_true Sep 2019 #15
If everyone had to present evidence everytime they spoke Buzz cook Sep 2019 #18
But of course. Allegations and bumper stickers are quite good enough for many people... LanternWaste Sep 2019 #21
People that make serious allegations that can affect the country and the world need to provide Blue_true Sep 2019 #22
Really? Buzz cook Sep 2019 #23
Oh, c'mon, John Cusack is incredibly powerful ... he needs to watch what he says ... mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #26
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight Fan of Da Bearse Sep 2019 #7
Do not forget the Knights Templar, Rosicrucians! betsuni Sep 2019 #9
I'm a member... Layzeebeaver Sep 2019 #11
I'm trying to remember... Grokenstein Sep 2019 #12
The parallels are shocking, and disappointing. nt Blue_true Sep 2019 #16
Good way to Cha Sep 2019 #17
You're being ridiculous ... he said the media ... not all that other bullshit ... mr_lebowski Sep 2019 #27
Tom Watson is unreliable and John Cusack isn't a 'surrogate.' NT Eric J in MN Sep 2019 #8
I said in the OP I didn't know what Cha Sep 2019 #10
Sounds like a salty Sanders. TidalWave46 Sep 2019 #14
"Salty Sanders"? I like that descriptor... comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #20
Ha! Tipperary Sep 2019 #19
John Cusack the actor? MustLoveBeagles Sep 2019 #24
Yes & Yes.. and he's been Cha Sep 2019 #25
 

JI7

(89,248 posts)
1. that's some crazy shit. full of victimhood and conspiracies
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 02:59 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Cha

(297,196 posts)
4. Yes, also arrogance & projection.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 03:05 AM
Sep 2019

Someone said they reported it for "targeted harassment".. Cusack is not doing his candidate any good.. perhaps just the opposite.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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W_HAMILTON

(7,864 posts)
2. I've noticed a lot of Sanders supporters become unhinged a bit in the past couple of weeks.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 03:01 AM
Sep 2019

I think the recent spate of poor news and poor polling have got them in an even more aggressive mode than usual.

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JI7

(89,248 posts)
3. Harris has had bad news also but you done see the crazy conspiracy
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 03:04 AM
Sep 2019

theories and drowning in victimhood.

many candidates go through tough times.

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Cha

(297,196 posts)
5. Excellent point!
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 03:12 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(297,196 posts)
13. I would say John Cusack
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 07:04 PM
Sep 2019

fits that description.

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Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
6. Apparently Cusack thinks the media have lied about Sanders.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 04:09 AM
Sep 2019

So if you could find examples in which the media has lied about Sanders it would bolster Cusack's claim.

Something like this. https://theintercept.com/2019/03/03/msnbc-yet-again-broadcasts-blatant-lies-this-time-about-bernie-sanders-opening-speech-and-refuses-to-correct-them/

That is a truth statement. It is either true or false; not both true and false or neither true or false.

If the media blamed Sanders for inciting a mass shooting, would that support Cusack's point?
https://fair.org/home/action-alert-with-sleazy-innuendo-nyt-lays-virginia-attack-at-bernie-sanders-feet/

If a media fact checking organization call a Sander's statement a lie, then when it was discovered that the statement was accurate, the organization didn't retract; would that tend to confirm Cusack's claim?
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/bernie-sanders-medical-bankruptcy-washington-post-fact-check-878120/

If people simply dismiss Cusack's claim, without examining the evidence, does that effect the truth or falseness of that claim?

Continually surprised how liberals, who have been burned by the media for decades, now happily give the media the benefit of the doubt.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. He has a platform that a lot of people don't have.
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 12:21 AM
Sep 2019

If Cusack has evidence, he need to present it, otherwise he need to stfu.

As I watch his camoaign, Bernie Sanders and his surrogates have been the people inflicting damage on his campaign.

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Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
18. If everyone had to present evidence everytime they spoke
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 02:56 PM
Sep 2019

Then we might as well close DU down.

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Undecided
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. But of course. Allegations and bumper stickers are quite good enough for many people...
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 03:53 PM
Sep 2019

As allegations and bumper stickers are great tools for those who, for the most part, rely heavily on, well... allegations and bumper stickers.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. People that make serious allegations that can affect the country and the world need to provide
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 06:36 PM
Sep 2019

evidence to back them up. No one on DU makes claims of the magnitude that I just listed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
23. Really?
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 11:45 PM
Sep 2019

A day rarely passes in which someone on DU doesn't make momentous charges. I think you mean no one on DU has the power or notoriety to make allegations that would effect the country.

And I'd say neither does John Cusack.

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mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
26. Oh, c'mon, John Cusack is incredibly powerful ... he needs to watch what he says ...
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 03:25 AM
Sep 2019

He's a regular Helen of Troy ... or POTUS ... that one!

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Fan of Da Bearse

(75 posts)
7. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 04:11 AM
Sep 2019

It's a conspiracy against Bernie, man! The Freemasons, the Illuminati, the Zionists, the Bohemian Grove, the Bilderburg Group, David icke's Lizard People, the Trilateral Commission and the Girl Scout who sells me cookies are all in on it!

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betsuni

(25,484 posts)
9. Do not forget the Knights Templar, Rosicrucians!
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 04:25 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Layzeebeaver

(1,623 posts)
11. I'm a member...
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 05:10 AM
Sep 2019

...of the tri-lateral commission.

Oh wait... you’re speaking of the A-list Tri-laterial commission.

I’m speaking of the D-list version, where my friends Dave and Kev, and I set the world to rights every so often.

The world need more D-list TLCs meeting more often. With less triggering than mr. Cusac!!!

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Grokenstein

(5,722 posts)
12. I'm trying to remember...
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 05:13 AM
Sep 2019

...which other candidate's people were constantly shrieking that the media was conspiring against him, right up to Election Night?

I think the candidate himself was going on about it as well. Something something enemy of the people.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. The parallels are shocking, and disappointing. nt
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 12:23 AM
Sep 2019
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Cha

(297,196 posts)
17. Good way to
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 01:15 AM
Sep 2019

to put it.

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mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
27. You're being ridiculous ... he said the media ... not all that other bullshit ...
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 03:26 AM
Sep 2019

Please try to keep it real, maybe?

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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
8. Tom Watson is unreliable and John Cusack isn't a 'surrogate.' NT
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 04:11 AM
Sep 2019

NT

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Cha

(297,196 posts)
10. I said in the OP I didn't know what
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 04:26 AM
Sep 2019

Cusack is.. but he needs to chill. He may think he's helping his candidate but he's not.

These are Cusack's words so Tom Watson is immaterial.. anyway Watson has more than 36,000 Followers so somebody thinks he's worth reading. I don't except Sanders' supporters to like him.

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TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
14. Sounds like a salty Sanders.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 07:28 PM
Sep 2019

Kind of funny in a way. He is promoting one of Sanders positions in a Salty Sanders way.

Please understand I don’t know this person.

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comradebillyboy

(10,144 posts)
20. "Salty Sanders"? I like that descriptor...
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 03:05 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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MustLoveBeagles

(11,599 posts)
24. John Cusack the actor?
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 11:58 PM
Sep 2019

If so how disappointing. Or am I misreading it?

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Cha

(297,196 posts)
25. Yes & Yes.. and he's been
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 01:29 AM
Sep 2019

doing this kind of thing for quite awhile now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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