Joe Biden speaking NOW...

[brooklynite]

[brooklynite]

1. "Not the conduct of an American President"

[Sugarcoated]

2. This is A LEADER

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. Except that he's one of the last candidates to call for impeachment

And only when Trump's crimes involved smearing him.

So more of a follower than leader, don't you think?

[Demsrule86]

6. Nope a true leader follows his own timeline...he doesn't rush to judgement.

[bluewater]

10. A true leader is the caboose? Not the engine of change?

Seriously, Biden was late to the dance in calling for impeachment of Trump.

[Demsrule86]

28. I disagree...

His speech has way more impact than those who called for it ...as a political strategy.

[MineralMan]

7. Please leave it alone, OK?

[Sugarcoated]

12. Nope, don't agree with you.

[peggysue2]

14. Oh, I guess calling Trump an existential threat to the country . . .

doesn't count? Or we're fighting for the soul of the country?

Truth is that Joe Biden is the only candidate who called Trump out for what he is from Day 1.

And yes, that is leadership.

[emmaverybo]

20. Simply true, a fact. Joe called Trump out day 1 and put his finger on what's at stake. There have

been followers, and of his call for unity, which some folks derided.

[Demsrule86]

4. He did a good job.

[Sugarcoated]

24. He struck the right tone

[bluewater]

5. meh

seemed very flat

Where was the anti-Trump fire? Noticeably missing.

[Demsrule86]

8. Impeachment is very serious...not a political speech.

[Skidmore]

16. +1

It does no candidate any favors to treat impeachment as anything but.

[bluewater]

17. Honestly, it sounded uninspiring

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Not what I had hoped to hear. THIS was his moment to make the case to the nation why Trump MUST be impeached. Joe came up flat.

Not inspiring.

[MineralMan]

9. Impeaching a President is a somber thing, don't you think?

Let it be...

[bluewater]

13. It's very serious, that's why Biden was so disappointing

He didn't make a strong case for impeachment. He seemed washed out.

[MineralMan]

15. You always seem disappointed in Biden, don't you?

[bluewater]

18. I am very disappointed in the flat speech

Biden needed to make a riveting case FOR impeachment. He simply did not.

[MineralMan]

19. ..

[bluewater]

22. ...

the truth might be unpleasant to hear, but it's still the truth.

[Cha]

34. ..

[bluewater]

43. making it personal?

not a good look.

I am sorry that this speech fell flat, I was hoping that Biden would excoriate Trump, and so did the media. They were waiting for fiery comments from Biden on why impeachment is needed NOW and did not get that.

Huge missed opportunity.

[Demsrule86]

29. Biden always disappoints you..but he will be the candidate IMHO regardless of

your disappointment.

[bluewater]

41. making it personal?

not a good look.

Sorry, it's not my fault that this speech seemed so flat and uninspiring. It was huge missed opportunity, the media was waiting with baited breath for a good pounding of Trump.

[Peregrine Took]

21. Agreed. Way too circumspect -

I was hoping for a powerful statement - a clarion call to action.
Once more, I was disappointed.
Where are our orators like Ted Kennedy? Now is the time for a true leader to step up.
In my mind, he stepped aside.

[bluewater]

23. I was hoping for a lot more. This was a missed opportunity to make a stronger case for impeachment .

[MineralMan]

26. What has Elizabeth Warren said today about this?

Just curious what the other Democratic candidates are saying in public statements.

[jcgoldie]

31. Warren began leading on this issue months ago

And her position has not changed. Nice to see others catching up to her.

[BeyondGeography]

36. IKR

Next thing you know they'll be asking who else has taken a stand agiainst corruption.

[bluewater]

37. google warren impeachment

Seriously, how could anyone not know what a leading candidate is saying on this issue? It's been all over the news.

And, as always, google is our friend.

[Skidmore]

42. At this time,

there is so much info to gather. The case will be made in the hearings with evidence to accompany it.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

39. Biden isn't one to rant and yell and wag his finger.

He's not an orator and has never pretended he was; it's not his style. But you don't have to be a so-called orator to be an effective communicator. I thought his speech was exactly what it should have been. And Biden has to tread a little more carefully in choosing his rhetoric than some more rant-inclined candidates because he and his son have been personally dragged into the situation. He can't be seen as even looking like he's pursuing impeachment for personal reasons (although I'm sure the GOP will make that claim).

[emmaverybo]

11. Spoke with conviction and authority, but no grandstanding. He stands for impeachment if Trump

does not comply with lawful requests. He reminded us that our country, based on “an experiment in self-governing,” is a beacon for others. He reminded us that many have fought and died for our democratic ideals.

He did not, however, make the issue about himself or get all righteous. Struck the right tone.

[Sugarcoated]

27. A steady hand

He struck the right tone

[MineralMan]

25. What other Democratic candidate has spoken on this?

I'm not near a TV.

[Demsrule86]

30. None...some just called for it a various venues... or interviews...Biden treated it

as a serious issue ...I still fear the results though...could empower Trump.

[Andy823]

32. Actually you are wrong

Harris spoke out last night:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287291807

[Demsrule86]

35. Wasn't that during an interview which I said some had done? She did not announce a speech to

my knowledge...but then I don't really follow Harris.

[Andy823]

38. Well you said

only Biden treated it as a serious issue. I think what Harris said was pretty serious.

[Andy823]

33. Harris did last night

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287291807

Check it out.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

40. Harris, yesterday. Warren has been on record for it for awhile.

[Gothmog]

44. Great Statement by Joe Biden

Link to tweet