Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWould your opinion of Warren change if she authorized high-dollar fundraisers for the GE?
The reality is that she will need $1 B plus to run against Trump, and low dollar fundraising hasn't scaled up to that level in any prior campaign. Add to which, she's done them in the past for her Senate campaign. And, yes, we could all just write checks, but there's a reason charities organize galas to attract their top supporters: because they work.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rpannier
(24,328 posts)I'd have to see who she was meeting with
To your end comment, "...because they work."
Yes, they do. To the detriment of the political system
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,373 posts)I don't remember being offered anything...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rpannier
(24,328 posts)I said my opinion would probably change, but I would have to see who she was meeting with
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,373 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rpannier
(24,328 posts)But, that does not imply (except in your mind, apparently) that I consider it selling out
I've watched and participated in US politics from overseas since a little before 2000 and have watched at both state and national level people and organizations get away with, what in a sane society would have amounted to criminal prosecution, instead become civil law. For example the robo-signings where they took away people's homes - the wrong people's homes and they paid a fine
Some of these people and organizations write legislation and the bill is presented still with the organizations name on it -- I think that was Minnesota. The Club for Growth exerts all kinds of influence that they shouldn't be allowed, as do banks, financial institutions, tech companies, etc. And, part of that is they give large amounts of money.
Why didn't the government prosecute the presidents of US banks? They were concerned that it might send the wrong message to the markets. So, (example) HSBC continued laundering money, donating cash and paid a fine
In Korea, a thriving Democracy, the too big to Jail is an actual practice. When a prominent executive goes to jail, he or she is often released early for the good of the economy. Japan, several industries provide their own 'experts' to the government for 1-3 years to aid in oversight and organization issues (the nuclear energy industry for example) and then when they return to their old job, new ones from that company step into those positions.
And the LDP gets huge money in donations
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,919 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,429 posts)It's a political reality that we're going to need zillions to be competitive. Our nominee is going to need to tap the big donors to help Dems at all levels.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,875 posts)our candidate and we'd do everything possible to help her win.
I'd hope there wouldn't be any gd purity tests then.
It would be great for Biden, too.. whatever it takes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MerryBlooms
(11,757 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tirebiter
(2,533 posts)Even FEC fines can be just paid and move on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,824 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)I wouldn't begrudge any Dem presidential candidate for holding high dollar fundraisers to win the general election since that's the system we have. But it needs reforms. Also we need better judges to overturn Citizens United.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeyondGeography
(39,351 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)A systemic solution is the only solution.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Prosper
(761 posts)and any donor could expect her to follow her principles. I would applaud her getting all the money any way she can to win the election.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,237 posts)She would still be my close number 2 choice.
My reason is this, and admittedly it's nothing but pragmatic: in order to change the system, you have to put yourself in a position to change the system. If big-dollar fundraiser will help her get elected, she should go for it. She doesn't even need to make any campaign promises to get big money out of politics. All she needs to do is act once she gets elected and even out the field for all candidates as far as big money is concerned. But then, if she accomplishes nothing, that would be my cue to get really pissed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...if shes the nominee.
A future article about CEOs at an exclusive event with her would lower my opinion of her.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Fiendish Thingy
(15,554 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
W_HAMILTON
(7,840 posts)...exceed the maximum of $2,800.
Whether one takes a maximum donation of $2,800 at a fundraiser or takes a maximum of donation of $2,800 given through hundreds of mini-donations so that the candidate can claim that their campaign is being boosted by grassroots donors donating small amounts (cough, cough), it is still from the same sources.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...for donors to give more than $2,800.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
W_HAMILTON
(7,840 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,128 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)it had nothing to do with corruption. Not only has she earned that, but people need to understand that presidents aren't bought. They're at both the top of their powers and the end of their careers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,015 posts)Into the campaign. She would have already proved in the primary that she wont be bought.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,806 posts)Taking money from corporations really never equaled buying favors.
It just does today. Warren has never been even close to suggesting pay for access.
Thats where the Supreme Court screwed up. Not Warren.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,945 posts)Warren used high dollar fundraisers for her senate campaign and transferred money from these fundraisers to her presidential campaign.
Link to tweet
If Warren is the nominee, she will be doing high dollar fundraisers
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KPN
(15,637 posts)nominee is as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,380 posts)And applied only to Democrats, of course.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)I live in a swing state so I'm bombarded with advertisements and mail every election. The sheer amount of money that is necessary to compete and go toe to toe w/ the Republicans and their owners has to be raised somehow. If it can be raised through low dollar, which I doubt, fine, do that. If not, high dollar it is.
I see no reason to tear down our nominee over something that isn't even on the radar of the opposition.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ecstatic
(32,653 posts)with new information. Elections cost money. And I don't believe for one second that she would be corrupted and owned by large donors. I've never believed in that premise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden