Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBiden will almost certainly benefit from this impeachment
discussion. That's my take on it. I also think he's handling it very well, by going on the attack against Trump.
I expect to see his poll numbers rise a couple of points or more in the next weeks.
Note: For those who will be tempted to remind me that I said I'd not post in Democratic Primaries, I didn't say that. I said I'd be posting less here. The situation has changed, however, and I am likely to be posting more once again. I can change my mind at any time, since I'm not an elected official or anyone of any importance at all.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,570 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,192 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Green Line
(1,123 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
hlthe2b
(101,714 posts)exploit this, instead, as Castro did yesterday, calling it out for the lies that it is and a blatant attempt to "Hillary" Biden I will do my damned best to defeat THEM in the primaries.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,192 posts)The primary field has narrowed significantly. May names can be considered to be fully out of the running at this point.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(46,794 posts)I've always like him, but this is exactly the kind of politics that I abhor. There is too much at stake, we can't condone such attacks on fellow Democrats. It doesn't hurt Biden, but it certainly stains the attacker.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(101,714 posts)Biden have been very much what I would hope to see from ALL candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(46,794 posts)I think I may have misunderstood the comment about Castro. I believe he has a promising future in politics and undoubtedly learned from his mistakes after the last debate. Democratic voters just don't have the stomach for that kind of politics.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)power, the public trust, public money. The big picture is Trumps corruption, but in this specific instance, his motive is also important and should alarm all democrats, perhaps none so much as
other top-tier candidates who while willing to condemn Trump, have not given lip service even to
defend Biden by name.
Regardless that he is a competitor, he has also been, and not too long ago, MVP in the Obama administration, a loyal member of the party, known for his mentor ship and support for Dem candidates, now a man whose integrity Trump smears, whose candidacy he seeks to destroy.
Lets get big and bold in defending Biden from attack. Then they can go back to biz as usual.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,725 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,348 posts)he was the nominee, i would vote for him. However, he might as well not run again for president IMHO. He will go nowhere in a primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(12,994 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,348 posts)states that Trump desperately needs.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(12,994 posts)We must win the Rust Belt states to win the election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,348 posts)maybe North Carolina...or they might not for some time...we have to deal with our present circumstances.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(12,994 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,348 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IronLionZion
(45,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(46,794 posts)Trying to find Biden guilty of corruption was a really bad move. He is a well known and much loved public figure and all of this will only make people more sympathetic toward him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LonePirate
(13,386 posts)This mess seems like a scandal to the general public and the general public has little to no understanding of Joe Bidens or Hunter Bidens connections to it. They just know it is bad and therefore Biden is tainted by it. As such, Biden can best hope it is a push; but in all likelihood, Biden will take a hit from this. The right wing will use this to Hillary him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,161 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,348 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,276 posts)so who cares what they think?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwpolicy
(32 posts)Voters don't like any association with corruption. We learned this when Clinton was unfairly maligned in 2016, but it was effective.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,348 posts)known and liked better than Clinton was... unfair though that might be. Not only will I not support candidates who attack Biden using this...I have to tell you if I see many of their followers using it...I will not support their candidates in a primary either ...this one or the next one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,348 posts)will not win a general...she has advanced policies that will impede this...particularly MFA. I would of course support her as our nominee in a general.
Biden will be the nominee and the impeachment should put an end to Trump's nefarious plan as the truth comes out...any candidate will be attacked by the right wing...and I refuse to allow them to choose our candidates for us...Hillary was hurt by our own side...those who supposedly have our back.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,161 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
get the red out
(13,459 posts)People often don't spend enough time on politics and could end up thinking they have 2 crooks to choose from even though Biden is a set up. The right wing will have hard-core Trumpers thinking Trump didn't even make the phone call that the White House released the transcript of.
I have supported Warren for quite a while now, but always figured the nominee would be Biden and I would vote for him and donate to his campaign (which I still will if he is the nominee), but I predict we will see a bit of a mark on his "electability" caused by all this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Sadly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blue-wave
(4,313 posts)MineralMan! Looking forward to many more. Go Joe Go!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)"I can change my mind at any time, since I'm not an elected official or anyone of any importance at all."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)our lessons with happened with Hillary. I am a little concern about the others running for nomination not standing tall with Joe and rallying around Joe and this obvious attempt at coming up with made up stuff to damage his chances
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pandr32
(11,447 posts)It may be that the others will be vying for the #2 slot and cabinet appointments now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(143,999 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Quixote1818
(28,903 posts)They will just hear something bad about Biden and Ukraine and not know its false or what the context is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)He almost certainly won't.
Before, no one knew anything about this. Now, everyone does. The right is going to run with it, and not everyone is bright or with it enough to realize the story is horseshit. Some people are going to believe it. Others are not going to know what to believe. This is not good, no matter how you slice it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(295,899 posts)those who are asking if it's going to hurt Biden with all the reason who sound like they're trying to hurt Biden.
It's not working.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gulliver
(13,142 posts)When Clinton was impeached he was up against priggish, prudish Ken Starr, and the "big crime" was at worst a non-perjurious lie about sex with a consenting adult. It's no wonder Clinton's popularity went up.
Contrast that with the table Trump has laid out for himself. He's going to try to take down Biden, and all it's going to do is make Biden look better and better in comparison to Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
boomer_wv
(673 posts)I think this is probably right. With impeachment afoot, that news is going to suck all of the oxygen out of the room for other stories for a while. Elizabeth Warren, I think, will have a hard time claiming time on TV to talk about other things. Any of these candidates who go on TV are going to be asked lots of questions about the impeachment inquiry and, by extension, Joe Biden. They will all also be forced to defend Biden instead of attack him. They can't be seen as attacking Biden who is under attack from Trump. It also sets up Biden as the clear rival of Trump.
I don't think that Biden could have hoped for better luck than to be at the center of the scandal that brings on impeachment.
On the flip side, if Trump were to leave office because of this, that probably benefits everyone not named Biden.
Bidens best story would be for this to get really bad for Trump, the media and democrats to continue to defend him throughout, and for Trump to remain in office after being saved by Senate Republicans, despite a majority believing that he should be removed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)You dont owe anyone any explanations here.
And your voice is appreciated, wherever you choose to post.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)him, almost as if he's already the nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(143,999 posts)Link to tweet
I think hes got a pretty clear pattern, doesnt he? He usually only spends his capital on those that he views as a threat, or a challenge, said Harold Schaitberger, president of the International Association of Firefighters, which did not endorse a candidate for president in 2016. I think our union coming out strongly on behalf of Joe Biden, cut him short at best ... It got under his skin.
Trumps predawn online tirade was a precursor to a period in which Biden appeared to occupy a remarkable amount of his attention. At a May 20 rally in Pennsylvania the state where the former vice president was born the president laced into the candidate who was then the undisputed front-runner in the Democratic field....
The one thing the president is well aware of is that in his base there are a lot of Obama voters, the aide said, alluding to what he said was the presidents perception that Biden threatened his hold on those voters. Theyre union members, theyre rank and file. A lot of those times, if they were campaigning, Obama would send Biden out there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden