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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 12:50 PM Sep 2019

Current RCP Averages--National And Early States

National: Biden +7.3
Iowa: Warren +2.7
NH: Biden +3.0
Nevada: Biden +7.3
SC: Biden +24.6

Warren's made big moves over the summer. But the reports of Biden's demise are greatly exaggerated.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Current RCP Averages--National And Early States (Original Post) LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 OP
Thanks! K&R! highplainsdem Sep 2019 #1
The only mystery now is who Biden's VP choice will be? NurseJackie Sep 2019 #2
I don't think anyone should be measuring the drapes yet. I expect it to be a competitive contest LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #3
Yes... It's still competitive in many regards... NurseJackie Sep 2019 #4
For a guy leading by more than 20 nationally last month Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #5
Biden was leading by an average of about 11 last month. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #6
Sorry that was a couple months ago now. Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #7
His average has gone from about 33 to about 28. He hasn't had some precipitice decline. It's more LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #8
His average lead* has gone from the 20s from April till end of June to the single digits now. Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #9
Go back and re-read my post. If you still don't understand what I was conveying, I'll explain it. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #10
Warren continuing to increase at the expense of any candidate Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #12
Joe'll be fine. He's weathered a tough couple of months in the press. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #17
This Green Line Sep 2019 #18
He has a pretty low ceilng all things considered Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #19
And yet he leads Warren. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #20
Bookmarking Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #21
Even at that, everyone expected the polls to tighten Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #13
Which they have Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #15
This appears to be setting up as . . . peggysue2 Sep 2019 #11
The trendlines look great for Warren jcgoldie Sep 2019 #14
Maybe Liz will start getting more media scrutiny then now its neck and neck Otto Lidenbrock Sep 2019 #16
Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #23
Its all about the Joe-mentum. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #22
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
2. The only mystery now is who Biden's VP choice will be?
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:02 PM
Sep 2019

Maybe it will be Bernie. (Kidding!)

I think it will be someone younger who'll be ready to take the reins when Biden rides off into the sunset.

Kamala? Pete?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
3. I don't think anyone should be measuring the drapes yet. I expect it to be a competitive contest
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:04 PM
Sep 2019

that goes beyond Super Tuesday. Just trying to slow down "the narrative" a bit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. Yes... It's still competitive in many regards...
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:09 PM
Sep 2019

... but it's clear to me that BS will not be on our party's ticket in any shape or form. He won't be at the top, nor will he be offered the VP slot (as if he'd even accept it, eh?)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
5. For a guy leading by more than 20 nationally last month
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:14 PM
Sep 2019

I dont think this is good news.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
6. Biden was leading by an average of about 11 last month.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:15 PM
Sep 2019

Where'd you get 20?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
7. Sorry that was a couple months ago now.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:25 PM
Sep 2019

He has been steadily declining

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
8. His average has gone from about 33 to about 28. He hasn't had some precipitice decline. It's more
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:29 PM
Sep 2019

that Warren's been gaining--seemingly more at the expense of Harris and the other lower-tier candidates and maybe Bernie. But Bernie's numbers aren't really that much lower either. Maybe she's just steadily been picking up undecideds.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
9. His average lead* has gone from the 20s from April till end of June to the single digits now.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:37 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
10. Go back and re-read my post. If you still don't understand what I was conveying, I'll explain it.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:39 PM
Sep 2019

And yes there is a difference. And yes it matters in a primary/election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
12. Warren continuing to increase at the expense of any candidate
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:45 PM
Sep 2019

Is bad news for biden. 25 or 30 percentis not much whenthis comes down to what may inevitably be a two personrace between biden or warren... She is gaining suppirt. He is not.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
17. Joe'll be fine. He's weathered a tough couple of months in the press.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:17 PM
Sep 2019

Queen Elizabeth hasn’t had it so hard.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
19. He has a pretty low ceilng all things considered
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:25 PM
Sep 2019

But time will tell more than anything else.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
20. And yet he leads Warren.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:46 PM
Sep 2019

You know she didn't just enter the national consciousness, right? She's been in this particular race longer than he has.

What's the problem with her ceiling? Call me when she and her bold proposals break 35%.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,754 posts)
13. Even at that, everyone expected the polls to tighten
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:04 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
11. This appears to be setting up as . . .
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:45 PM
Sep 2019

a head-to-head match between Biden and Warren. I back Joe Biden as our best bet to beat Trump in 2020, a must-do, and as the best candidate to repair the massive damage Trump has wreaked on the country. Trump knows that, too, which is why we're seeing the smear machine gearing up.

The numbers are tightening but Joe Biden still has the strongest hand.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
14. The trendlines look great for Warren
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:13 PM
Sep 2019

Biden has either lost over 10% or remained static over the entire summer depending on how far back you set your window. At one time he peaked at over 40%. Meanwhile Liz has quadrupled her numbers.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Otto Lidenbrock

(581 posts)
16. Maybe Liz will start getting more media scrutiny then now its neck and neck
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:29 PM
Sep 2019

First of all I've praised her campaign on here as the best operation. But she's also benefitted from kind media. No democrat is going to bring up the DNA thing, but on policy there are some valid questions. Colbert of all people pressed her harder than the political reporters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Otto Lidenbrock (Reply #16)

 

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
22. Its all about the Joe-mentum.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 04:25 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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