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highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 12:11 PM Sep 2019

HRC Defends Joe Biden After Controversy About How He Interacts with Women and Girls: 'Get over it.'

https://people.com/politics/hillary-clinton-defends-joe-biden-women-physical-touching-kisses/


Sitting down with PEOPLE to talk about her upcoming book with daughter Chelsea Clinton, Hillary Clinton could hardly contain her thoughts on another topic: how former Vice President Joe Biden interacts with women and girls.

Multiple women have said Biden’s boundary-blurring physical affection toward them over the years, including back touches and kisses on the head, was disrespectful and uncomfortable.

Some of his comments on the campaign trail — such as calling an event moderator who was asking questions about his voting record “lovely” and a “real sweetheart” and telling a teenage girl’s brothers to “keep the guys away” — have also raised eyebrows in a race with multiple women running for president. (By contrast, Sen. Elizabeth Warren tells girls at her events that she is running for president because “that’s what girls do.”)

“For goodness’ sake, I’m sorry, I have to jump in because I’ve heard a little bit about that,” Clinton told PEOPLE in a joint interview with her daughter last week, after they were asked if some female voters would be less than enthusiastic about Biden as the Democratic nominee, given his behavior.

“I mean, I don’t think that the Twitterverse is the American electorate, but there are lots of vocal voices that say all kinds of things,” said Clinton, 71.

She said that Biden, 76, who is a leading contender to challenge President Donald Trump in next year’s election, “is a thoroughly decent human being who has served our country honorably and well for decades.”

-snip-



She went on to say that anyone who runs for office can be "picked apart" for minor things, but that distracts from the goal of getting rid of Trump.

“We can pick apart anybody. I mean, that’s a great spectator sport. But this man who’s there in the Oval Office right now poses a clear and present danger to the future of the United States. So get over it,” Clinton said. “Look at the candidates, look at what they’ve accomplished, look at what they have fought for — and vote for anybody to get rid of Donald Trump.”



Video at the link.
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HRC Defends Joe Biden After Controversy About How He Interacts with Women and Girls: 'Get over it.' (Original Post) highplainsdem Sep 2019 OP
I just love her! NurseJackie Sep 2019 #1
i am With Hillary!! trueblue2007 Sep 2019 #11
Oh, if only... i'm Still with her. Guilded Lilly Sep 2019 #2
So am I. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #4
Standing ovation for Hillary Clinton! peggysue2 Sep 2019 #3
Oh yes indeed big standing ovation for HRC... Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #7
Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #5
Time to move on Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #6
It's with articles like this that I blue-wave Sep 2019 #8
Oh ...right there with ya!! It's one of the biggest travesty's of this century Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #9
Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #10
To women under, say, 35, it makes Biden look like a relic. maxsolomon Sep 2019 #12
Hillary would tell them to get over it. And ALL our candidates have some "baggage" that highplainsdem Sep 2019 #14
The point is about younger voters where Biden does indeed perform terribly BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #15
He'd be winning that group if he promised free college and forgiving student loan debt like a couple highplainsdem Sep 2019 #18
they'll get over it after the convention, not before. maxsolomon Sep 2019 #16
Elaine Chao advises women who experience sexual harassment to 'let it go' keithbvadu2 Sep 2019 #13
Are you comparing Hillary to them? Are you suggesting anything Biden did is comparable to highplainsdem Sep 2019 #17
Apparently you do. You jumped right on it. keithbvadu2 Sep 2019 #20
No.. she asked you a question which Cha Sep 2019 #28
I didn't bring those articles up. You did, and it does look like an attempt to compare them to what highplainsdem Sep 2019 #31
You read them the way you want to. keithbvadu2 Sep 2019 #33
No, I read them the way you apparently wanted them read, as criticism of Hillary and Biden. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #34
Biden hasn't been accused of sexual harassment . JI7 Sep 2019 #25
Eight women have accused Biden of touching them inappropriately or invading their personal space DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #35
Off-topic and irrelevant...With all due respect. Skya Rhen Sep 2019 #26
Read the title: 'Get over it.' keithbvadu2 Sep 2019 #29
Biden.."is a thoroughly decent human being who has served our country honorably and well for decades Cha Sep 2019 #19
She is much kinder to him than he was to her. Will never forget his stupid remarks. n/t seaglass Sep 2019 #21
Fortunately, we don't have to get over it. DCofVA Sep 2019 #22
I don't see any. And none of them are more electable. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #32
K&R Gothmog Sep 2019 #23
I'm eagerly waiting for Hillary to finish "Fuck All Y'all: A Memoir." betsuni Sep 2019 #24
That could be a... Mike Nelson Sep 2019 #27
Hillary Clinton Is Not Going to Turn a Blind Eye Towards Men Acting Inappropriately DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #30
"This man must be defeated, Gothmog Sep 2019 #36
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
1. I just love her!
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 12:13 PM
Sep 2019
“We can pick apart anybody. I mean, that’s a great spectator sport. But this man who’s there in the Oval Office right now poses a clear and present danger to the future of the United States. So get over it,” Clinton said. “Look at the candidates, look at what they’ve accomplished, look at what they have fought for — and vote for anybody to get rid of Donald Trump.”


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

trueblue2007

(17,193 posts)
11. i am With Hillary!!
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 02:53 PM
Sep 2019

and i'm so glad that BAD note was removed. This is the Democratic Underground site. We are Dems and we do NOT destroy our own.

You go girl. I love you Hillary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
2. Oh, if only... i'm Still with her.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 12:37 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
3. Standing ovation for Hillary Clinton!
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 12:38 PM
Sep 2019

From someone who knows up close and personal what 'picking apart' actually means. And the money quote:

She said that Biden, 76, who is a leading contender to challenge President Donald Trump in next year’s election, “is a thoroughly decent human being who has served our country honorably and well for decades.”


Yes! Focus on frigging Donald Trump. He is the enemy, the threat to the country and the world. He is the Corrupter-in-Chief.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,705 posts)
7. Oh yes indeed big standing ovation for HRC...
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 01:15 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

 

Thekaspervote

(32,705 posts)
6. Time to move on
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 01:12 PM
Sep 2019

He did not vote to confirm Thomas

You dragging up stuff that happened that many years ago when everyone else has moved on (including Anita Hill who said she would be voting for Joe Biden) does nothing to change the minds of voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blue-wave

(4,344 posts)
8. It's with articles like this that I
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 01:41 PM
Sep 2019

start to well up thinking about the last election. Hillary not only exceeds all the qualifications, she exudes an honor that is needed in the White House. I know she recognizes that honor and those qualifications in Joe too. Two great leaders that we, as a Democratic Party, are blessed to have as members.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,705 posts)
9. Oh ...right there with ya!! It's one of the biggest travesty's of this century
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 01:52 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

 

maxsolomon

(33,244 posts)
12. To women under, say, 35, it makes Biden look like a relic.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 03:02 PM
Sep 2019

That is the impression they have of him, deserved or not. They're not going to stop feeling that way.

Warren does not carry this baggage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
14. Hillary would tell them to get over it. And ALL our candidates have some "baggage" that
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 03:26 PM
Sep 2019

Trump and the Republicans will go after, depending on who they think most threatens Trump.

Including Warren.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BeyondGeography

(39,346 posts)
15. The point is about younger voters where Biden does indeed perform terribly
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 03:27 PM
Sep 2019

relative to Warren or just in general.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
18. He'd be winning that group if he promised free college and forgiving student loan debt like a couple
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 03:41 PM
Sep 2019

of his rivals who are, not at all surprisingly, doing well with that age group.

And FWIW, the SurveyUSA A-rated national poll done earlier this month shows Biden doing better than Warren among the 18-34 age group, though Sanders, who is apparently offering more for free, does better than either Warren or Biden.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=af31ac4e-3786-426b-828e-6359cb6c34bb


Of the 18-34 year olds surveyed, Sanders gets 33%, Biden gets 19%, Warren gets 17%.


But Biden wins every other age group.

And overall, in that poll, Biden has 33% support compared to 19% for Warren and 17% for Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

maxsolomon

(33,244 posts)
16. they'll get over it after the convention, not before.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 03:28 PM
Sep 2019

based on my anecdotal observations.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
13. Elaine Chao advises women who experience sexual harassment to 'let it go'
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 03:17 PM
Sep 2019

Elaine Chao advises women who experience sexual harassment to 'let it go'

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/363359-elaine-chao-advises-women-who-experience-sexual-harassment-to-let-it

Of course she believes it during the Trump administration.

---------------

Republicans say man who attacked woman with hammer can keep post as secretary

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gop-man-attacked-woman-hammer-post-article-1.3679183

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
17. Are you comparing Hillary to them? Are you suggesting anything Biden did is comparable to
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 03:29 PM
Sep 2019

sexual harassment and assault?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
20. Apparently you do. You jumped right on it.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 05:17 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,844 posts)
28. No.. she asked you a question which
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 07:54 PM
Sep 2019

you didn't answer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
31. I didn't bring those articles up. You did, and it does look like an attempt to compare them to what
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 09:32 PM
Sep 2019

Hillary said and what Biden did. Which would be a really derogatory thing for you to do.

If you had another reason for posting them here, maybe you can explain.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
33. You read them the way you want to.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 09:34 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
34. No, I read them the way you apparently wanted them read, as criticism of Hillary and Biden.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 09:36 PM
Sep 2019

If there's another way to interpret your post, please explain it.

You can tell from the replies that I'm not the only one who read your post that way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

JI7

(89,239 posts)
25. Biden hasn't been accused of sexual harassment .
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 06:29 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
35. Eight women have accused Biden of touching them inappropriately or invading their personal space
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 09:37 PM
Sep 2019

None of them said Biden's behavior amounted to sexual harassment or assault.

People need to have some sense of proportion. Biden never meant to abuse his male privilege or make anyone feel degraded. He's just a physically affectionate guy who sometimes unwittingly crossed boundaries.

Compare that to Trump, who loves nothing more than to crush the souls of women. Because he's literally an evil creep.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
26. Off-topic and irrelevant...With all due respect.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 06:39 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
29. Read the title: 'Get over it.'
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 08:00 PM
Sep 2019

Read the title: 'Get over it.'

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,844 posts)
19. Biden.."is a thoroughly decent human being who has served our country honorably and well for decades
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 03:45 PM
Sep 2019

Thank you, Hillary!

Mahalo, highplains.. this is brilliant to hear from her!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

seaglass

(8,171 posts)
21. She is much kinder to him than he was to her. Will never forget his stupid remarks. n/t
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 05:41 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DCofVA

(714 posts)
22. Fortunately, we don't have to get over it.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 05:47 PM
Sep 2019

All we gotta do is vote for a better candidate in the Primaries. There’s still plenty of time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
32. I don't see any. And none of them are more electable.
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 09:33 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,377 posts)
24. I'm eagerly waiting for Hillary to finish "Fuck All Y'all: A Memoir."
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 06:22 PM
Sep 2019

I would even pre-order that one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mike Nelson

(9,944 posts)
27. That could be a...
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 07:49 PM
Sep 2019

... DNC ad. Very well stated.

“We can pick apart anybody. I mean, that’s a great spectator sport. But this man who’s there in the Oval Office right now poses a clear and present danger to the future of the United States. So get over it,” Clinton said. “Look at the candidates, look at what they’ve accomplished, look at what they have fought for — and vote for anybody to get rid of Donald Trump.”

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
30. Hillary Clinton Is Not Going to Turn a Blind Eye Towards Men Acting Inappropriately
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 09:31 PM
Sep 2019

Get over it, folks. Women are not going be to less than enthusiastic about Biden just because he has a little grandfatherly physical affection towards some younger women. This is 2019. Clinton went up against the biggest sexist on the planet. She knows a thing or two about sexism, and she sees nothing wrong with it.

Given the choice between Trump and Biden, there is no choice. End of story. Nothing more to say. Leave it at that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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