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* NEW * NC Poll - Biden 31%, Sanders 20%, Warren 15%, Harris 6% (Original Post) Skya Rhen Sep 2019 OP
Warren has a Southern problem Yoopy Sep 2019 #1
I think Warren will have the same problem as Bernie had in the south in 2016, honest.abe Sep 2019 #13
Joe still going strong by doing it his way. oasis Sep 2019 #2
Politico says the Sky is fall'in on Bernie ritapria Sep 2019 #3
His message is tired and is not resonating any more. PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #6
Lol. His message is resonating with the other candidates who copied it. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #9
If so that would suggest the problem is not with the message but with the messenger. honest.abe Sep 2019 #11
BS didn't have anything of his own PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #12
I think the issue is he has flatlined. honest.abe Sep 2019 #14
Blaming the media for his poor polling seems the standard cop out. LanternWaste Sep 2019 #15
We've been told that Bernie doesn't stand a chance and is falling in the polls. Joe941 Sep 2019 #16
FYI littlemissmartypants Sep 2019 #4
That's the link provided for this poll on FiveThirtyEight's Latest Polls page: highplainsdem Sep 2019 #19
K&R n/t PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #5
I love this. k&r nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #7
Hmm, NC is a republican state Perseus Sep 2019 #8
The data presented in the headline of the OP are from Democrats sampled. honest.abe Sep 2019 #10
NC voted for Obama in '08, and thought couldn't have happened without Republican crossover. nt Tarheel_Dem Sep 2019 #18
Poll conducted by my hometown University. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2019 #17
Too Cool! Cha Sep 2019 #20
Hey Cha! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2019 #21
 

Yoopy

(124 posts)
1. Warren has a Southern problem
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:19 AM
Sep 2019

She should visit that region often and put her message out there.

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honest.abe

(8,675 posts)
13. I think Warren will have the same problem as Bernie had in the south in 2016,
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:32 PM
Sep 2019

They simply do not connect with black voters... no matter what they say or do. I think its a trust thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,376 posts)
2. Joe still going strong by doing it his way.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:24 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
3. Politico says the Sky is fall'in on Bernie
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:38 AM
Sep 2019

They write articles everyday reminding us of his imminent demise ...Portents of Gloom and Doom..... Well the iconoclastic old fart is doing pretty good in NC - for a guy going down the tubes ...Tied for the lead in NV ..He oughta drop out in favor of Liz …..She does selfies...She's another Frederick Douglass - according to the objective media that hates his guts ….

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PhoenixDem

(581 posts)
6. His message is tired and is not resonating any more.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:19 AM
Sep 2019

He has nothing to offer other than unworkable and unrealistic wish-lists. They don't appeal to a vast majority of Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,324 posts)
9. Lol. His message is resonating with the other candidates who copied it.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:12 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

honest.abe

(8,675 posts)
11. If so that would suggest the problem is not with the message but with the messenger.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:29 PM
Sep 2019

Correct?

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PhoenixDem

(581 posts)
12. BS didn't have anything of his own
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:30 PM
Sep 2019

All his ideas have been floated decades ago by others like Ted Kennedy and George McGovern. (Also many others too numerous to mention)

So, how can one copy anything that was copied to begin with?

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honest.abe

(8,675 posts)
14. I think the issue is he has flatlined.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 01:10 PM
Sep 2019

Yes, he has a fairly large number of hardcore dedicated supporters who may never give up. But that is not enough to win this election. He has to make some major gains with groups he is weak with, in particular with black voters.. and as hard as he has tried he's not doing it. In fact it appears he is doing worse than in 2016.. and of course we all know without the black vote no Democrat can win the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. Blaming the media for his poor polling seems the standard cop out.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 02:51 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
16. We've been told that Bernie doesn't stand a chance and is falling in the polls.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 04:55 PM
Sep 2019

The news says otherwise.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

littlemissmartypants

(22,631 posts)
4. FYI
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:39 AM
Sep 2019

The link is to an automatic PDF Download.

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highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
19. That's the link provided for this poll on FiveThirtyEight's Latest Polls page:
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 09:47 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Perseus

(4,341 posts)
8. Hmm, NC is a republican state
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:06 PM
Sep 2019

Why would republicans be favouring a particular Democratic nominee? I don't believe in polls, and I have to think very hard about results that come from NC. Why republicans want Biden to be the nominee I would like to know.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

honest.abe

(8,675 posts)
10. The data presented in the headline of the OP are from Democrats sampled.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:28 PM
Sep 2019

Also, it appears NC is transitioning from a Red state to a Blue state much like Virginia did in the past 10 years or so.

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Tarheel_Dem

(31,232 posts)
18. NC voted for Obama in '08, and thought couldn't have happened without Republican crossover. nt
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 07:09 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Tarheel_Dem

(31,232 posts)
17. Poll conducted by my hometown University.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 07:08 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(297,137 posts)
20. Too Cool!
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:09 PM
Sep 2019
Tarheel!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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