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demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:07 AM Mar 2019

Elizabeth Warren wants to kill the electoral college

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) on Monday endorsed ending the electoral college, arguing for a system where “every vote matters.”

Many Democrats, including Warren, have disparaged the electoral college following the presidential election results in 2000 and 2016, when Al Gore and Hillary Clinton both won the national popular vote, yet lost the electoral college vote and, as a result, the presidency.

The announcement from Warren, a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, came during an hour-long town hall at Mississippi’s Jackson State University and amid a wave of (blue-leaning) state action to do the same.

On Sunday, Colorado joined 11 other states and the District of Columbia in the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. Members pledge to give their electoral votes to whichever candidate wins the national popular vote.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/03/19/elizabeth-warren-wants-kill-electoral-college/?utm_term=.65e4bed9233d&tid=sm_tw
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Elizabeth Warren wants to kill the electoral college (Original Post) demmiblue Mar 2019 OP
The Constitution is not a religious document, and the electoral college is not a sacred institution dalton99a Mar 2019 #1
Bully for her kennetha Mar 2019 #2
Why is she against education? Renew Deal Mar 2019 #3
Free Electoral College for everyone!! NurseJackie Mar 2019 #4
lol Renew Deal Mar 2019 #5
This is an easy pledge... brooklynite Mar 2019 #6
national popular vote movement can do it without an amendment ProfessorPlum Mar 2019 #7
Don't need 3/5ths zipplewrath Mar 2019 #8
Yes you do... brooklynite Mar 2019 #10
Exactly...you understand the practical application Awsi Dooger Mar 2019 #11
Good for her!!! nt Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #9
To end the Electoral College, Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #12
 

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
1. The Constitution is not a religious document, and the electoral college is not a sacred institution
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:10 AM
Mar 2019

The electoral college is an artifact that has outlived its usefulness

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kennetha

(3,666 posts)
2. Bully for her
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:42 AM
Mar 2019

I am completely onboard with her on this.

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Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
3. Why is she against education?
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:42 AM
Mar 2019
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. Free Electoral College for everyone!!
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:44 AM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,597 posts)
6. This is an easy pledge...
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:48 AM
Mar 2019

...the difficulty is explaining how you'll sell 3/5 of the States (esp. the small one) on getting rid of it.

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ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
7. national popular vote movement can do it without an amendment
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 11:31 AM
Mar 2019

and they are quite far along.

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zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
8. Don't need 3/5ths
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 11:35 AM
Mar 2019

The dominant effort is an attempt to get a majority of the EC to commit to choosing their electors based upon the popular vote. That's about 15 states (if it is the right states). They're at 11 right now (although not all the "right" states).

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brooklynite

(94,597 posts)
10. Yes you do...
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 12:54 PM
Mar 2019

...to change the Constitution. That's the only sure way to enable a national popular vote.

The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact approach is, in my opinion, fatally flawed. First, the States that have signed on are the low hangining fruit, and current add up to 181 EV. It will be far harder to get the remaining States (mostly Red in the south and west) to sign on. And I would expect the arrangement to collapse as soon as a State is obliged to support a candidate that the State's voter's didn't support.

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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
11. Exactly...you understand the practical application
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 03:50 PM
Mar 2019

Warren and others are devoted to overreaction and feel-good fantasy

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Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
12. To end the Electoral College,
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 04:09 PM
Mar 2019

it takes 2/3 of each house of Congress and then 3/4 of the states.

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