Missing From Elizabeth Warren's 2020 Surge: Democratic Endorsements

[brooklynite]

New York Times

WASHINGTON — Senator Elizabeth Warren has built her following in part by taking pictures with thousands of voters deep into evening after campaign events, but her dinner audience here one night last month was far smaller. And Ms. Warren’s guests were more interested in hearing, and politely challenging, her campaign pitch than eagerly capturing the moment for posterity on their iPhones.

Addressing a few dozen members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus at a Chinese restaurant a few blocks from the Capitol, she laid out her case for why she could unify Democrats, emphasized that she was not hostile to properly run businesses and made a soft sell to the lawmakers to support her presidential bid.

“She said, ‘Nobody could do this alone, I will need your help,’” recalled Representative Chellie Pingree of Maine, who attended the gathering and said Ms. Warren “was great.”

But just under a month since the family-style meal, the Massachusetts senator has the same small number of endorsements from congressional colleagues beyond her home state as she did beforehand: three.

[Funtatlaguy]

1. Doesn't surprise me. She doesn't brown nose or suffer fools.

[Mr.Bill]

6. Are you saying that candidates with a lot of endorsements

are doing those things?

[Funtatlaguy]

7. Some, yes.

[Cha]

49. Bulloney.. don't diss Dems because of this.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. Exactly... I'd rather have the endorsement of We The People!!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Amimnoch]

2. Many are probably looking at the polling in critical swing states.

She is definitely surging in the national polls, but as we should all know too well by now, popular vote doesn't take home the win. There was some shift last month in the battleground state polls, but I'm betting many who offer critical endorsements are watching the battleground polls very closely.

She starts doing better than the Trump vs Biden polls in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona etc.. they will likely start flooding in. I know as soon as I see that my signature is changing.

It's all about 270 to win. swing states are the ones that will make it happen, or give us 4 more years. I do NOT want to wake up on Wednesday November 4th, 2020 with that same feeling of despair and dread that I felt in 2016.

[Skya Rhen]

3. They obviously feel that she has not demonstrated that she can beat Trump in the GE

by winning the key swing states. So, it makes sense that they are reluctant to back her.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

27. Best spin of the day!! Nice goin!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[cwydro]

33. Lol.

What you said!

[Thekaspervote]

36. Agree! Since when is not having political endorsements a show of strength? Give me a break

Talk about utter spin

[comradebillyboy]

4. If she continues to pull ahead in the polls the endorsements

will follow.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. I'd rather have the endorsements of the voting public and millions of small donors!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[PatrickforO]

5. I'm thinking endorsements will be slow in coming until

around March-May 2012.

[Funtatlaguy]

8. After Super Tuesday, it will be a two person race.

[Mr.Bill]

9. I agree, since California has been moved up to that date.

Anyone still in the race after that is running for VP or selling a book.

[comradebillyboy]

14. It's already a two person race...

[Funtatlaguy]

15. In many ways, yes.

I’m not saying that everyone other than the top two will drop out then.
But, delegate wise, it will be very clear who the main two combatants will be.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

30. Yes, after Super Tuesday, it'll come down to Bernie and Elizabeth.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[KPN]

10. Endorsements don't really mean a lot at this point. There are a number of bottom tier candidates

who have stacked up more endorsements that Warren, but they won't be around come March or so.

[HelpImSurrounded]

11. How about some hard data instead of fluffy reporting?

[link:https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-endorsements/democratic-primary/|]

[Liberty Belle]

13. This shows she has 5 and Biden has 6 Congressional member endorsements,

essentially tied in that department.

[BlueMTexpat]

16. Thanks for posting this.

I'm glad to see that MD's Jamie Raskin is a Warren endorser.

IMO, several are waiting for awhile. It is also possible that the campaigns are not actively reaching out for endorsements as much as they did in 2008 and 2016. Getting those early endorsements for 2016 is something that Hillary had learned from the Obama 2008 campaign where it was used with great success. She followed that strategy in 2016, also with great success.

Then those early endorsements were just another of the many things that were, IMO, unfairly held against her in 2016. Remember all the brouhaha about Superdelegates? Hillary was damned if she did and damned if she didn't. That whole situation still infuriates me.

I think that most are being much more cautious this time, so as not to hurt the eventual nominee's chances by playing into the hands of those who will allege that there is favoritism in the so-called "establishment."

[HelpImSurrounded]

17. I think you are right

But I have to argue that Obama's acquisition of endorsements was different from Clinton's. Obama was not considered to be the likely candidate in 2008 so when he racked up endorsements it enhanced his "electability". There was a strong presumption amongst many that Clinton would be the nominee in 2008. So in 2016, that sense of "her turn" was magnified and when she came out of the gate with strong endorsements it was taken as DNC meddling.

I think that sense of meddling is still in full force so it helps Warren and hurts Biden for him to have so many endorsements.

However, I will concede that the discussion surrounding Biden will be different than Clinton solely due to sexism even though the circumstances are the same.

[BlueMTexpat]

19. You make good

points.

Both as to Obama's reasons for needing endorsements in 2008 and as to the sexism that is still very much a part of the 2020 equation in re the current Top Two.

[DrFunkenstein]

12. Where Is The Democratic Establishment?

Without them, Warren will be lucky to break into double digits.

[HelpImSurrounded]

18. sarcasm?

I'm having an off day, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

[Act_of_Reparation]

21. Yes, it is.

[HelpImSurrounded]

23. That's a relief

I almost wasted time pulling up references and data.

[BeyondGeography]

22. Oh please, don't you rock my boat

Cause I don’t want my boat to be rocked...

[DrFunkenstein]

32. Jeez, People!

Warren broke into double digits back when Biden was still polling over 40%. She has risen dramatically to be a co-frontrunner. Really thought that one was sort of obvious.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. LMAO!! good one!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Thekaspervote]

37. It called coattails!! She doesn't have them

[DrFunkenstein]

46. Whose Coattails Is Biden Riding?

There are three parts to a sentence: a noun, a verb, and Barack Obama.

Strangely, Barack told Biden to sit out 2016 and then said this time around, "You don’t have to do this, Joe, you really don’t."

Obama Repeatedly Tried to Get Biden Not to Run for President

https://www.gq.com/story/obama-to-biden-dont-run

[Thekaspervote]

51. Regardless of your comments.. coattails are good things. They give life to the down ballot

She doesn’t have them.

And your point that Biden is using Obama’s coattails.. good for him.

[ritapria]

20. Only 2 endorsements matter

AOC and Jim Clyburn -The House Majority Whip from SC .....Nancy Pelosi, Barack and Michelle Obama will not endorse e candidate until the Primary race has been settled ... The latter trio would be huge endorsements if they did choose to make an endorsement while the outcome is still in doubt

[Thekaspervote]

39. Okay!! Well then endorsements from big voter blocks like the AFL CIO & IAFF.. and others are

Unimportant? ....don’t kid yourself! These kinds of endorsements are huge for any candidate at any level of government

[Blue_Adept]

24. And yet people were complaining about endorsements/delegates heavily in 2016

"They shouldn't endorse at all until after all the voting!" because of how unfair it was.

[corbettkroehler]

25. Per Wikipedia, Sanders Has 110 Nationwide, Mostly Outside Vermont

The complete list (I excluded international entries) can be found at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bernie_Sanders_2020_presidential_campaign_endorsements

On a related note, I LOVE Bernie's decision to post his Anti-Endorsements. When it comes to shaking up the status quo, aggravating plutocrats is important work. He hosts this page for our reference

http://berniesanders.com/anti-endorsements

[cwydro]

34. Aren't you the guy who posted a thread about how women couldn't lead?

Pretty sure it was you.

[corbettkroehler]

35. I Quoted Bill Maher's Satire Of People Who Say That

My quote was accurate and I provided the evidence to support my post.

How that relates to the number of public endorsements Sanders has received escapes me.

[cwydro]

41. Ah, and here you admit it was satire.

But not in that thread.

Noted.

[corbettkroehler]

42. If It's A Maher Monologue (Visible Even From The Video Thumbnail), "Satire" Is Implied (n/t)

[cwydro]

43. Dude, just put the shovel down.

[corbettkroehler]

44. Not Gonna Happen, Although I Have Responded To All False Accusations Thus Far

Considering that PLENTY of DUers understood that the whole point was to satirize the pathetic position that women are too impulsive to be president simply by reading my thread and viewing the video, my conscience is as clean as undriven snow.

[cwydro]

45. Good for you buddy.

Many others see you.

[corbettkroehler]

47. As Do The DUers Who Understood It To Be Satire At First Glance

They see you as well.

[cwydro]

48. I can read that thread lol.

Bless your heart.

[Duckandcover]

28. Another Anti-Warren hit piece from the New York Times

That newspaper hates Progressives and never misses an opportunity to show us in the worst possible light.

[rollin74]

38. the only endorsement that matters is that of the voters

[Thekaspervote]

40. Big endorsements from unions and professional orgs do sway their members

They vote in lock step...

[Blue_true]

50. Bingorazi. And we don't have solid numbers (read, actual votes) on that input yet. nt