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MBS

(9,688 posts)
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 01:26 PM Oct 2019

Jennifer Rubin on national security and the Democratic presidential candidates

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/14/democratic-candidates-need-show-their-national-security-bona-fides/?

Excerpts:
The full extent of President Trump’s national security disaster in Syria cannot be ignored. . . .
This is a humiliating retreat by the United States with no national security rationale. We have ruined our credibility as allies and potentially have given new life to the Islamic State. Trump has repeated the very errors he accused President Obama of committing in Iraq . . . with Russia, Syria and Turkey as the beneficiaries. Because the move is so inexplicably dumb, one is tempted to conclude Trump has some financial interest at stake. On the Sunday talk shows, a rare display of bipartisan, vicious criticism of Trump’s decision suggested there really are some things the Republicans will not tolerate. . . Two missing parts of the conversation are, first, a recognition by Republicans that Trump is an unfit commander in chief who at the very least cannot be reelected, and, second, a forceful case from a Democratic presidential candidate who demonstrates the Republican Party is now weak on national security. The latter can be addressed at Tuesday’s Democratic presidential debate. . .

In addition to former vice president Joe Biden, South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg is one of the few candidates so far to sound like a credible commander in chief. On CNN’s “State of the Union” he explained, “Putting an end to endless war doesn’t mean ending American engagement around the world. Often, it means making sure we do our part to stabilize or help keep the peace, so that full-blown conflicts don’t break out.” He explained, “Look at what’s happened here. This isn’t even a strategy or a policy. It is the president systematically destroying American alliances and American values. And that makes America worse off.”

Unlike bland promises of disengagement, Buttigieg points out that “the 21st century is going to be filled with these kinds of messy, asymmetric conflicts, and we need to make sure that the U.S. is in a position to defend our interests and to live up to our obligations to our allies. And, right now, we’re seeing the reverse. It is horrifying to see what is emerging not just in terms of what is being done to Kurds, but in terms of ISIS fighters now being released, exactly as we were warned would happen. And we’re seeing the first reports of atrocities, too.”

Asked if he would keep troops in Syria, he gave the only cogent answer: "If that’s what’s needed in order to protect American interests and avoid a repeat of ISIS emerging, sure. … You look at the behavior of Saudi Arabia, you look at the behavior of Turkey, which is supposed to be a NATO ally, and, clearly, when the president green-lights bad behavior, that’s exactly what you get.” He concludes, with every justification, “Under this president, America is being turned into just another country, just another country out there scrapping for advantage, not showing leadership, not in an exceptional position to shape outcomes around the world. And the consequences of that are terrible, both for American values and for American interests.” (It’s quite a comment on Buttigieg that the guy who is a mayor of a medium-sized Midwest city has more foreign policy gravitas than members of the U.S. Senate and House on the stage with him.). . .
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Jennifer Rubin on national security and the Democratic presidential candidates (Original Post) MBS Oct 2019 OP
I have to agree. Zoonart Oct 2019 #1
Biggest Blunder Since Bush/Cheney Were Allowed To Invade Iraq DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #2
 

Zoonart

(11,866 posts)
1. I have to agree.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 01:32 PM
Oct 2019

THIS IS THE 3am PHONE CALL.
Our candidates don't have to wait for this question to be asked in the debate. It is already out there in the REAL world.

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DrFunkenstein

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2. Biggest Blunder Since Bush/Cheney Were Allowed To Invade Iraq
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 01:35 PM
Oct 2019

In the week since Donald Trump’s fateful phone conversation with Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, the US has entirely abandoned the Kurds, its most effective allies in the Middle East, and with them a Syria strategy that was five years in the making.

The Islamic State flag has been raised once more and the last vestige of US credibility as a reliable partner lies crushed under Turkish tank tracks. It has arguably been the worst seven days for US foreign policy since the invasion of Iraq.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/14/trump-syria-worst-week-us-foreign-policy-iraq-invasion

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