"The overwhelming evidence" suggesting Tulsi is an asset --

[pnwmom]

i.e., useful -- to the Republicans, to the Russians, or both.

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/10/22/the-overwhelming-evidence-in-support-of-clintons-claims-about-gabbard/?fbclid=IwAR0RyM7SETwWeahZFLUKQ1YEAlSFBf75M2ffOi63UF7k0Saoi7D1wBrnQkQ

The evidence is clear: Russia established a pattern of attempting to disrupt the Democratic primary in 2016 and is obviously doing the same thing this year. The only remaining question is why they chose Tulsi Gabbard.

The most obvious answer to that question is that Gabbard has centered her campaign on a message of ending regime change wars, like the one in Syria. That is based on a lie, and just so happens to reflect the talking points embraced by Assad and Putin. The United States condemned Assad’s use of violence to put down civilian protests against his regime, which is how the civil war in that country began. But U.S. military involvement in Syria has always been about defeating ISIS, particularly by working with the Kurds.

Gabbard also tries to sell herself as the anti-war candidate who stands for peace. But in addition to calling herself a “hawk” when it comes to the war on terror, her past positions hardly qualify as peaceful. When Putin and Assad began bombing northwestern Syria—a campaign that has been labeled a war crime—Gabbard endorsed their efforts.

SNIP

Vladimir Putin has focused his efforts to influence U.S. foreign policy on three areas: (1) Ukraine, (2) Syria, and (3) overturning the Magnitsky Act. On all three, Gabbard has either provided direct support or failed to oppose his aims. Of course, it also helps that Gabbard has positioned herself to malign not only Hillary Clinton, but the entire Democratic Party as well—specifically by claiming that the 2020 election has already been rigged.

[Land Shark]

1. Clinton story has changed

The NYT is now saying they misquoted Hillary as saying Russians were grooming....she says she meant or said Republicans were grooming.... Problem is Clinton's spox doubled down on the Russia stuff and this retraction comes SEVERAL days later. Here is the doubling down:

Quote:
Clinton spokesperson Nick Merrill doubled-down on the former nominee’s conspiratorial charges, confirming to CNN’s Dan Merica that Clinton was referencing Gabbard without referencing the congresswoman by name.
“Divisive language filled with vitriol and conspiracy theories? Can’t imagine a better proof point than this,” Merrill told Merica. “This is not some outlandish claim.”

So which case?

[pnwmom]

2. I don't care exactly what Clinton said. Tulsi IS an asset for the Russians,

even if she is unwitting.

She is useful to them. She supports many of their positions. For example, from the article:

Vladimir Putin has focused his efforts to influence U.S. foreign policy on three areas: (1) Ukraine, (2) Syria, and (3) overturning the Magnitsky Act. On all three, Gabbard has either provided direct support or failed to oppose his aims. Of course, it also helps that Gabbard has positioned herself to malign not only Hillary Clinton, but the entire Democratic Party as well—specifically by claiming that the 2020 election has already been rigged.

[Land Shark]

3. "Unwitting" means no one is free to disagree with US policy

And that would have been a real problem if that rule or practice had been in place during the Iraq war about "WMD."

I guess i am a Russian asset too. All that means is disageeeing with official US policy that is important enough for Russia to have taken a position against it. And I have no problem with that esoecially from an elexted member of Congeess vetted with a Top Secret clearance.

[pnwmom]

7. LOL. She has whatever clearance her position in the House requires her to have.

And that isn't a good reason to accept her positions -- supporting Assad, supporting the far-right leader in India, denigrating the Democrats, and cozying up to people like Trey Gowdy and Steve Bannon.

[Land Shark]

9. It appears some think unity is unnecessary to beat Trump

But that seems really risky to me. Van Jones used the word "dangerous."

Enthusiasm is a big thing in elections. This whole "asset" thing is the oppositie of unity.

[TwilightZone]

15. Unity? She routinely denigrates the entire party.

You should probably take a closer look at your candidate and her background if you truly believe that a lack of unity is an issue in the party. Her frequent rants about the party are specifically designed to discourage unity.

[Land Shark]

16. Paradoxically, the most divisive thing anyone can say

Is to call someone out as a Russian asset. Don't Russians want to divide us? This certainly does the job. Those calling someone a Russian asset meet the divisiveness test for being a Russian asset themselves.

We should all take a step back.

I can admit to some excesses by TG, can anyone admit Hillary was divisive too?

[sheshe2]

13. Hm.

All that means is disageeeing with official US policy that is important enough for Russia to have taken a position against it.

Ummm. I am an American and I sure as hell don't give a what all to that which may be important enough for Russia to have taken a position against. Jaysus! Russia is not our friend. Putin is not our friend.

And I have no problem with that esoecially from an elexted member of Congeess vetted with a Top Secret clearance.

Jared and Ivanka have Top Security clearance as well.

[Land Shark]

17. Fair point on jared and ivanka

Except they cheated to get theirs...

[sheshe2]

18. They seem easy to get.

Anyone can have one. Not all use them wisely.

[Cha]

5. Gabbard outed herself going paranoid and Ballistic

on Hillary and then running to white nationalist Tucker Carlson to Whine about it.

Link to tweet

by Nancy Letourneau.. she's brilliant!

Gabbard also tries to sell herself as the anti-war candidate who stands for peace. But in addition to calling herself a “hawk” when it comes to the war on terror, her past positions hardly qualify as peaceful. When Putin and Assad began bombing northwestern Syria—a campaign that has been labeled a war crime—Gabbard endorsed their efforts.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[ecstatic]

19. Wow! Tucker is blowing up!

Every clip I see of him he's even fatter than the last clip.

[StarfishSaver]

8. When is your candidate going to start running against Trump

And when is someone going to tell her Clinton isn't in the race? For her sake, I hope it's soon because Tulsi's making a complete fool of herself (not to mention proving that there's good reason to be suspicious of her).

[Cha]

12. It looks like Gabbard is determined she's running against Hillary..

Apparently.. it all "clear" to TG

Link to tweet

Personally, I think she's bitten off way more than she can chew with her imaginary boogie person.

[Cha]

4. Yes, Gabbard was a Big Cheerleader for this..

by Nancy Letourneau.. she's brilliant!

Gabbard also tries to sell herself as the anti-war candidate who stands for peace. But in addition to calling herself a “hawk” when it comes to the war on terror, her past positions hardly qualify as peaceful. When Putin and Assad began bombing northwestern Syria—a campaign that has been labeled a war crime—Gabbard endorsed their efforts.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Yeah.. "bad enough", gabbard..

And.. Gabbard is the one who tried to "smear" Sherry Campagna.. her Democratic challenger in 2018/

Link to tweet

[sheshe2]

6. Thanks for posting this.

I have followed Nancy LeTourneau for years. She had a blog, Horizons when she posted as smartypants.

I posted many of her ops for years at DU. I caught a lot of shit by doing so. Needless to say she pissed people the hell off as she will now with your OP. Her take, as a southern white woman were spot on with race issues. She is 100% correct here as well.

She has always been right by my book.

Thanks.

[betsuni]

11. Expecting kill the messenger attack in 3...2...1

[sheshe2]

14. Boom......

Count down. Or perhaps they will not relate Nancy to smartypants. Some of those posters are gone and yes forgotten. Long time passing. Where have all the racists gone> Gone to JPR and DI everyone. When will they ever learn, when will they ever learn. When will they ever learn.

[betsuni]

10. K&R

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. Another Tulsi thread was locked by admin, fyi

[Hekate]

22. Thanks pnwmom. We Democrats are fools if we pretend this is not happening.

And indeed, some of us are. Being a Big Tent does not mean we have to admit burglars just because they claim to be members of the family.

[The Wizard]

23. Another "Siberian Candidate"

Two biggies facing a rocky road.