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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:08 PM Oct 2019

CNN poll: Biden leads the race--15 points ahead of Warren. His widest margin since April

Biden has 34% of Dem and Dem leaning registered voters, best showing since formal launch April 25.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/23/politics/cnn-poll-biden-lead-increases/index.html

Warren: 19 %
Sanders: 16 %
Buttigieg: 6%
Harris: 6%
Klobuchar: 3%
O’Rourke. 3%

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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CNN poll: Biden leads the race--15 points ahead of Warren. His widest margin since April (Original Post) emmaverybo Oct 2019 OP
That can't be right. The Economist has a poll MineralMan Oct 2019 #1
Right! It's wrong and if it were right--which it isn't--would be a big rebound from all the polls emmaverybo Oct 2019 #3
One of the polls the economist is using for their regression model has... TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #4
Doesn't matter to me, actually. MineralMan Oct 2019 #5
That's kind of the point. NT TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #7
Can you give me a link to good poll for Texas? efhmc Oct 2019 #9
I haven't noticed any primary polls for Texas recently. MineralMan Oct 2019 #10
Thanks anyway. efhmc Oct 2019 #14
Except the economist poll avg as of today shows JB & EW at 25% each. JB +3 EW -3 Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #12
That's still relatively meaningless, as are all polling data. MineralMan Oct 2019 #13
Biden or Hillary will be the nominee. Tertullian Oct 2019 #2
Nate has some observations on this poll Gothmog Oct 2019 #6
Latest You/Guv Poll just released ritapria Oct 2019 #8
Here are several polls out Monday including one from IA, has Biden retaking the lead Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #11
"The polls are what the polls are". Tarheel_Dem Oct 2019 #15
I love Biden! I'm excited to see this! OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #16
The most important number in the CNN 2020 poll isn't the one you think it is Gothmog Oct 2019 #17
Thanks, Gothmog, for pointing out the really important numbers. And what a smile, what a pic. emmaverybo Oct 2019 #18
In spite of everything negative put forth by Cha Oct 2019 #19
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
1. That can't be right. The Economist has a poll
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:10 PM
Oct 2019

that shows Warren in the lead. Any poll that shows her in the lead is obviously more accurate, see, no matter how many show Biden in the lead.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
3. Right! It's wrong and if it were right--which it isn't--would be a big rebound from all the polls
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:13 PM
Oct 2019

all the time showing Warren new frontrunner.


Not.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
4. One of the polls the economist is using for their regression model has...
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:13 PM
Oct 2019

28 Warren - 18 Biden

Another one factoring into their model has 36 Warren - 23 Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
5. Doesn't matter to me, actually.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:18 PM
Oct 2019

I look at polls as little snapshots in time, and as that alone.

Individual polls really carry no weight for me. Instead, I look at aggregates of polls taken at the same times. Then, I look at trends over time, based on those aggregates.

Here's the thing about that: Joe Biden has been the leader since the very beginning. Not once has he dropped out of the lead in the aggregate of polls.

I find it amusing when people post individual poll numbers here, as though only the poll they like has any validity.

And I also look at delegate numbers from various states, and check the polling being done in the states which send the most delegates to the convention. When I do that, the picture becomes clearer.

Others look at such things in various ways, and they're welcome to do that. I might question their evaluation of what they think they see in them, though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
7. That's kind of the point. NT
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:32 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

efhmc

(14,726 posts)
9. Can you give me a link to good poll for Texas?
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 01:19 PM
Oct 2019

Thanks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
10. I haven't noticed any primary polls for Texas recently.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 01:20 PM
Oct 2019

I don't follow politics in Texas, really.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,773 posts)
12. Except the economist poll avg as of today shows JB & EW at 25% each. JB +3 EW -3
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 01:47 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
13. That's still relatively meaningless, as are all polling data.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 01:48 PM
Oct 2019

See my post about the value of polling.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287321867

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Tertullian

(46 posts)
2. Biden or Hillary will be the nominee.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:11 PM
Oct 2019

The Dem nominee will be either Joe Biden or Hillary.

Order will be restored.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,303 posts)
6. Nate has some observations on this poll
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 12:24 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
8. Latest You/Guv Poll just released
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 01:04 PM
Oct 2019

Biden 24% Warren 21% Bernie 15%...………. Last week it was Warren 29% Biden 25% Bernie 13% …. Aggregate AVG of last 6 National Polls : Biden 29% Warren 20.5 % Bernie 17.5%

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Thekaspervote

(32,773 posts)
11. Here are several polls out Monday including one from IA, has Biden retaking the lead
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 01:44 PM
Oct 2019

🚨 Awesome day of polling for Democratic frontrunner @JoeBiden!

National polls
@surveyusa +10
@MorningConsult +9
@Ipsos +7 (+9 over Trump)
Public Religion Research Institute +8

Iowa
@Suffolk_U +1

Minn.
@MasonDixonPoll +12 over Trump

You/gov is always EW best poll

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
15. "The polls are what the polls are".
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 03:29 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OldRed2450

(710 posts)
16. I love Biden! I'm excited to see this!
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 03:40 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,303 posts)
17. The most important number in the CNN 2020 poll isn't the one you think it is
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 04:12 PM
Oct 2019

You can not win the Democratic nomination without significant African American voter support




Biden is ahead because he is consolidating his support among non-white voters, a key voting bloc among whom he already had a very clear edge over his primary rivals.
Here's how the numbers by race break out in the new CNN poll:
Whites
Biden 27%
Warren 23%
Sanders 15%

Non-Whites
Biden 42%
Sanders 16%
Warren 13%

That's striking stuff. And while Biden has long led among non-white voters, his support has surged since earlier this fall when he was taking just 28% of their vote in a hypothetical Democratic primary ballot.
Why is his support among non-white voters -- and the suggestion that support is increasing as actual votes near -- so important for Biden and his chances? Because non-whites have been the decisive voting bloc in each of the recent contested Democratic presidential primaries. In 2008, Barack Obama beat Hillary Clinton because of his massive edge over her among black voters. Eight years later, Clinton beat Sanders because she crushed him among African Americans and Hispanics.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
18. Thanks, Gothmog, for pointing out the really important numbers. And what a smile, what a pic.
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 04:21 PM
Oct 2019

Beat him like a Joe.

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Cha

(297,289 posts)
19. In spite of everything negative put forth by
Wed Oct 23, 2019, 06:40 PM
Oct 2019

so many who want to bring him down!

Wow.. Mahalo, emmaverybo! party:

If I were to vote in a presidential
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