NEW: Biden camp dropping its discouragement of outside super PAC.

[demmiblue]

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[George II]

1. Good. It takes money to run a winning campaign. By limiting the (legal) sources candidates....

....are only handicapping their ability to succeed.

[crazytown]

7. And next up a PAC goes hard negative?

Swearing off negative campaigning 'is only handicapping a candidate's ability to succeed'? So long 'Uncle Joe'.

[emmaverybo]

2. " Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing." Go get him, Joe.

You will beat him like a

[crazytown]

6. This is about the primaries

and he can't raise the cash.

[questionseverything]

8. bingo

I like what warren has said, no "big" money in the primaries but in the general anything goes (paraphrasing)

[emmaverybo]

11. That's fine. She's not my moral authority or Biden's.

[peggysue2]

21. x1000!

Nice retort!

And yes, at this juncture winning is everything. Which means pulling out all the stops for the primary and the GE.

Because:

Joe Biden will beat Trump like a drum. Nothing else matters.

[crazytown]

39. "pulling out all the stops"

Using the PAC to go hard negative on Democrats?

[peggysue2]

40. Just love when people put words in my mouth

As I said before: Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have every right to run and fund their campaigns as they see fit. As does Joe Biden.

End of story.

Btw, churning out accusations of bad intent on something that hasn't even happened yet is really not effective. Nor worth listening to.

[crazytown]

41. I'm asking a question, not putting words in your mouth.

Whatever it takes? "Nothing else matters"

[peggysue2]

42. If Biden needs money to fend off Trump's attacks . . .

(which btw have been underway the moment he entered the primary) then yes, whatever it takes as long as the process is legal.

As far as 'nothing else matters?' That would be winning in 2020, soundly defeating Donald Trump because our future depends on it. All our futures.

But then, you knew that already without parsing the line.

[crazytown]

43. And I'm asking you

would you draw the line at a Super PAC going hard negative against Biden's Democratic competitors, ala Dean v Gephardt.

[peggysue2]

44. I'll wait and see if that happens

But I'm not about to run around as if my hair were on fire before anything happens.

[Demsrule86]

38. Who cares really? You don't like him and won't vote for him in a primary.

[Act_of_Reparation]

3. In summary:

We're broke. Send cash.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

12. LOL... that about sums it up!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Voltaire2]

25. And we can't raise small donor cash like

those other guys.

Wonder why that is.

[Skya Rhen]

30. And we have to spend unanticipated millions on ads combatting Trump's lies because he fears me most.

[Act_of_Reparation]

49. Unanticipated?

Really?

[Bradshaw3]

4. Guess that's what you do when your opponents are outraising you

Can't keep up with their millions of small donors so ask the anonymous big money guys to bail you out. They can use trump's funding to rationalize it but Biden may not even be the GE candidate. He needs their help now.

[Baclava]

50. Private jetsetting to the coasts to woo corporate donors costs money? lol, yeah

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and the showdown races haven't even started yet on the ground

[Bradshaw3]

55. That's the point many miss

We're still months away from voting, so funding is important, as it is how a candidate gets those funds when it comes to voters making a decision.

[ritapria]

5. Bernie advised Joe to refuse Super Pac Money

Why didn't take Joe take this highly principled and morally sound advice from Bernard ?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

13. Yup, following Bernie's lead is usually the best way to go!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[emmaverybo]

15. But he's not leading.

[emmaverybo]

19. Bernie high-minded? That is rich with what he has allowed his surrogates and with his own

unseemly behavior in disparaging rivals, insulting Dems, using the party while bashing it, conduct in 2016. Kudos for a strong showing after heart attack, but he is also no moral authority, least of all, he.

[Skya Rhen]

9. Good for him! He needs to run his campaign as he ses fit, as long as it's legal.

[crazytown]

10. Whatever it takes?

[emmaverybo]

14. Obviously not. Read: "As long as it's legal." So let's not try to make Biden or supporters out to

be a lawless lot.

[crazytown]

17. A hard negative PAC to take down opponents?

[Cha]

23. Hey Aloha, emmaverybo.. Mahalo!

Good job!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

18. Apparently so!! At least voters now know Joe's priorities.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[UniteFightBack]

45. You damn skippy. nt

[crazytown]

46. ?

[UniteFightBack]

47. That means 'yes'. nt

[crazytown]

48. OK

[TidalWave46]

16. I wish all of our candidates would do this.

It's my understanding that Warren will do this if she wins the primary. I don't see how that makes sense.

[peggysue2]

22. Somewhat amazing, yes?

The purity banners are being flown by the two primary candidates who transferred monies from former campaigns.

Warren and Sanders have every right to run their campaigns as they see fit. As does Joe Biden.

AGO4JOE2020

[Cha]

24. Yeah.. it's Ridiculous.

[awesomerwb1]

26. Oh My GoOdNeSs

ThIs Is ShOcKiNg!!! /sarcasm


Get all the cash you need, all candidates. I couldn't give a fuck where the money to defeat trump comes from (as long as everything is legal obviously).

[stonecutter357]

27. good let's go Joe !

[evertonfc]

28. good

It's 2019. You gotta have cash. Trump has about 200 million on hand. You think donations from aunt Sally will match that?

[redqueen]

29. Hands up, who's surprised? nt

[still_one]

31. Good. President Obama did the same thing. It is like going to a street fight and tying both arms

behind your back

For all those so happy with the third quarter funding of some of the more progressive candidates, it is nothing compared to what trump received in his third quarter funding

Whoever the Democratic nominee is, once we get in, that is when we make the changes, not before. All that does is give an unfair advantage to the republicans

[NurseJackie]

52. You are absolutely correct. Winning is EVERYthing!

[still_one]

31. Good. President Obama did the same thing. It is like going to a street fight and tying both arms

behind your back

For all those so happy with the third quarter funding of some of the more progressive candidates, it is nothing compared to what trump received in his third quarter funding

Whoever the Democratic nominee is, once we get in, that is when we make the changes, not before. All that does is give an unfair advantage to the republicans

[still_one]

33. Good. President Obama did the same thing. It is like going to a street fight and tying both arms

behind your back

For all those so happy with the third quarter funding of some of the more progressive candidates, it is nothing compared to what trump received in his third quarter funding

Whoever the Democratic nominee is, once we get in, that is when we make the changes, not before. All that does is give an unfair advantage to the republicans

[theglammistress]

34. I'm Glad

We don't have time for purity tests when the Republic is literally burning to the ground around us.

[Eko]

35. Sounds fine to me.

[loyalsister]

36. So much for that promise to not speak ill of other Democrats

Not minding if someone else does that dirty work on his behalf may be a valid loophole to him, but I don't buy it.

[mcar]

37. Fine with me

[Pachamama]

51. Its not illegal and if it takes fire to fight fire - I am fine with it...

This election is not where we need to be attacking Democrats and faulting anyone for wanting to use knives when going to a knife fight.

[NurseJackie]

53. Maybe the "National Nurses United" will spend $4.8 million on pro-Biden ads...

Maybe the "National Nurses United" will spend $4.8 million on pro-Biden ads in 2020. I hope nobody will object to that. Nobody seemed to mind too much when they did the same thing for BS in the past.

All I'm saying is that WINNING is EVERYTHING. No need to intentionally give the other side a strategic and financial advantage just so that the candidate can boast about having "lost it all by himself without any help from anyone" (or herself)

[Gothmog]

54. I have no problem with this

I have no issue with Biden using a super pac. Clinton had a super pac.