"Medicare for All": The Left's drive to "repeal and replace" Obamacare is based on a lousy definitio

[sheshe2]

"Medicare for All": The Left’s drive to “repeal and replace” Obamacare is based on a lousy definition of "underinsured"

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They don’t want to talk about just the uninsured anymore. Thanks to Obamacare, the uninsurance rate among adults is still in the single digits, even though Trump has managed to nudge it up from 2017 to 2018. That is not a statistic commensurate with the three-alarm, all-consuming emergency Medicare for All advocates seem to believe health care in America is, so a new statistic was needed. And one came along.:

87 million adults are uninsured or underinsured!

It’s a claim Bernie Sanders has made over and over again, and Elizabeth Warren has repeated in her Medicare for All plan.

That is eyepopping, especially given that of that number, only 23 million are uninsured. On the surface that number would seem to say that Republicans were right in their critic all along that Obamacare made things worse for most people. If you believe that, no one can blame you for getting on the “repeal and replace” of the Left, single-payer Medicare for All.

The number comes from a survey published by the Commonwealth Fund in February 2019.

What does health insurance coverage look like for Americans today, more than eight
years after the Affordable Care Act’s passage? In this brief, we present findings from the
Commonwealth Fund’s latest Biennial Health Insurance Survey to assess the extent
and quality of coverage for U.S. working-age adults. Conducted since 2001, the survey
uses three measures to gauge the adequacy of people’s coverage:

• whether or not they have insurance
• if they have insurance, whether they have experienced a gap in their coverage in
the prior year
• whether high out-of-pocket health care costs and deductibles are causing them to
be underinsured, despite having continuous coverage throughout the year.
As the findings highlighted below show, the greatest deterioration in the quality and
comprehensiveness of coverage has occurred among people in employer plans. More
than half of Americans under age 65 — about 158 million people — get their health
insurance through an employer, while about one-quarter either have a plan purchased
through the individual insurance market or are enrolled in Medicaid.1
Although the
ACA has expanded and improved coverage options for people without access to a job based health plan, the law largely left the employer market alone.

SURVEY HIGHLIGHTS
Today, 45 percent of U.S. adults ages 19 to 64 are inadequately insured — nearly the
same as in 2010 — though important shifts have taken place.
Compared to 2010, many fewer adults are uninsured today, and the duration of
coverage gaps people experience has shortened significantly.
Despite actions by the Trump administration and Congress to weaken the ACA, the
adult uninsured rate was 12.4 percent in 2018 in this survey, statistically unchanged
from the last time we fielded the survey in 2016.

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/sites/default/files/2019-02/Collins_hlt_ins_coverage_8_years_after_ACA_2018_biennial_survey_sb.pdf

Before anyone ask:

The Commonwealth Fund is a nonpartisan, nonprofit 501(c)(3) organization that advocates a "high-performing healthcare system," with a focus on improving healthcare for low-income and marginalized individuals.
Founder(s): Anna Harkness
Affiliation: Nonpartisan
Type: 501(c)(3)
Commonwealth Fund - Ballotpedia
https://ballotpedia.org › Commonwealth_Fund

https://ballotpedia.org/Commonwealth_Fund

That’s a stunning claim, especially given the fact that the report also clearly concedes that Obamacare has massively improved health care coverage by drastically reducing the uninsured rate, significantly shortening the coverage gap (the time between losing one type of coverage and gaining another), and cutting down on the number of people who miss care because of cost.


Read More: https://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2019/11/1/medicare-for-all-proponents-use-a-stunningly-bad-definition-of-underinsured

Fact. Warren is my choice, yet have stated many times here that I don't support the direction that she is going in with healthcare. I do not want to tear it all down and start from scratch. I want to build on a strong foundation that we already have. One that would be stronger if the GOP did not do everything in their power to destroy it. Single payer was always the next step for ACA.

PS. I was on ACA for a year and a half after losing my job. Cobra would have been 900 a month ACA gave me coverage and peace of mind for 70 dollars a month.

[George II]

1. So I guess Obamacare is being attacked from both sides.

[empedocles]

2. . . . and, 'rightiously' so, . . . according to some

[sheshe2]

3. Yes.

I am going to see how this plays out. Rethinking who I support since the stats aren't adding up.

[crazytown]

19. Is someone has a $4000 deductible

are they insured?

[Cha]

4. We know for a fact that Obamacare did Not make

things worse for people.. it saved lives and was invaluable for those with Pre-existing conditions!

Thank you for this report, she.

[sheshe2]

5. I have always supported ACA.

We could have made it better. We did not have the votes.

The right tried to destroy it and the left ran away from it once upon a time. Things have changed on that...well at least on the left. The right has never given up trying to take it away from us, Cha.

[Cha]

7. I know you have, she! And, here's President Obama

standing up for his "signature legislation" in December 2018!

You're so right.. the votes weren't there. I remember talking to my Congressman, Michael Arcuri.. a blue dog in a swing district about "the public option" and he let me know there weren't votes for that.

President Obama got what he could and was punished for it by the rw hate machine and those who stayed home in 2010 because it wasn't perfect. They sure showed us.. it could have been made better but not voting was evidently more important to them

'Republicans will never stop': Obama slams GOP after ruling against Affordable Care Act

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Former President Barack Obama responded Saturday on social media to a federal judge's ruling that core aspects of the Affordable Care Act were unconstitutional, calling the decision "a reminder that Republicans will never stop trying to undo" the protections offered by his signature health care law

"If they can’t get it done in Congress, they’ll keep trying in the courts, even when it puts people’s pre-existing conditions coverage at risk," Obama said in a Facebook post. "The only way to convince them to stop trying to repeal this law, and start working to make health care better, is to keep voting, in big numbers, in every election, for people who’ll protect and improve our care."

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Barack Obama Tweet:

There are two things you need to know today about health care.

First, today’s the last day of open enrollment. That means it’s the deadline to make sure you and the people you love have health insurance in 2019. So head over to HealthCare.gov to get covered!

Second, you might have heard about a federal court decision on a Republican lawsuit trying to strike down the Affordable Care Act in its entirety. That can be a scary thing to hear, particularly if you or someone you ...

See More

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/16/obama-responds-obamacare-ruling/2329964002/

[Joe941]

10. It didnt help enough. Thousands are dying from lack of care.

[Cha]

11. It's helping tremendously! The repubs have

done their damnedest to tear it part and it's still helping people.

it was a solid foundation to build on.. but because it wasn't perfect too many stayed home in 2010 to punish.. I blame them.

The Democratic House voted to make it stronger in January 2018.

Progressives Support Shoring Up ACA Before Tackling Medicare For All

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Despite a large division in the Democratic party over the best health care solution ― single-payer or a continuation and possible expansion of something like Obamacare ― progressives in Congress appear to be in lockstep with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s priority of shoring up the ACA before tackling anything like Medicare for All.

“I’m happy to support any provision that strengthens the ACA and plug some of the gaps that we’re seeing, particularly as it’s under assault by the president,” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) told HuffPost on Wednesday. “I think it’s part of a longer-term vision, at least for me, towards guaranteeing ― truly guaranteeing ― health care for all Americans.”

Ocasio-Cortez said she understood prioritizing fixes to the Affordable Care Act. “Because we have a Republican Senate, a Republican president, and so the things that we have the ability to pass right now are pretty narrow,” she said, though she added she wanted hearings on Medicare for All and didn’t think single-payer solutions had been given enough attention from the Democratic caucus yet.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142293852#top

[beastie boy]

6. So I am not the only one who sees direct parallels between GOP's "repeal and replace" and MfA...

This is the worst possible outcome if MfA ever gets implemented: it dismantles Obamacare, requiring no effort from republicans to do so, leaving nothing behind to fall back on in case things don't work out as envisioned by its supporters.

And Republicans will have a much easier time to repeal MfA than Obamacare. The risk is that we may end up with neither.

[sheshe2]

8. You are correct.

[betsuni]

9. K&R

[BigMin28]

12. What are the millions who remain uninsured,

Who were left behind to do? I personally know someone who died. Could she have been saved? I don't know. But she would have been diagnosed sooner, and would have received better care throughout the illness, especially at the end.

I broke my arm a couple of years ago and found out what they mean when the say an ER is only required to stabilize you. The put a splint on my arm, and referred me to an orthopedic surgeon. He said my arm could not be fixed properly without surgery, and since I am uninsured, he could not preform the surgery. So I am left with a permanently messed up left arm. I am left handed. To look at my arm, the injury is still obvious.

[sheshe2]

14. ACA tried to do that for you.

If it could have been built on it would have expanded. Also there are the states that refused to expand Medicaid. The GOP tried to destroy it all.

If you think for a moment that M4A will instantly cover everyone, you are mistaken. It could take years and years to tear it down and then attempt to rebuild. The GOP will block it every step of the way as they always do.

I am so very sorry about your friend and about your arm, BigMin. I wish you the best.

[BigMin28]

16. I know they tried,

But as a person who lives in a red state, I knew they would never allow Medcaid to be implemented here. They would fight tooth and nail, even break the law to keep that from happening. I'm surprised others ever believed the repukes would. I work, have never been on any government benefits, help take care of my mother, and am raising a grandson, but it appears that I and those like me are expendable

[sheshe2]

18. You are not expendable to me.

Nor to most of us. I wish I had more than words for you.

Please take care of you as you are taking care of yours, BigMin.

[BigMin28]

17. Thank you for your best wishes.

I do appreciate them:

hi:

[melman]

13. Fascinating

Truly fascinating.

[sheshe2]

15. It is, isn't it.

I knew you would be stopping by to say hello, melman. I could set my watch by you, yet haven't worn one in three years now.

[George II]

21. I haven't worn a watch in almost 20 years, but....

[sheshe2]

22. Hells Bells.

Time flies.

[George II]

20. Indeed it is fascinating.

[sheshe2]

23. ...