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maximusveritas

(2,915 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 05:56 PM Nov 2019

NYT/Sienna College polling analysis: Biden has advantage among swing voters in battleground states

Yahoo News: Meet the Swing Voters Who Might Decide the 2020 Election

Interesting article that makes clear how this election will be decided by a small group of persuadable swing voters in these battleground states and if we want to win this election and put a stop to the madness of Trump, we need to identify who these people are and how best to reach them.

based on an analysis of 569 respondents to recent New York Times Upshot/Siena College surveys in the six closest states carried by the president in the 2016 presidential election.


These potentially persuadable voters are divided on major issues like single-payer health care, immigration and taxes. But they are fairly clear about what they would like from a Democrat. They prefer, by 82% to 11%, one who promises to find common ground over one who promises to fight for a progressive agenda; and they prefer a moderate over a liberal, 75% to 19%.


They support Biden over the president, 38% to 27%, but prefer the president to Warren, 37% to 20%. Sanders is in between, with the president leading him, 34% to 32%. This group voted for Trump by a smaller margin in 2016, 37% to 30%, with the rest casting ballots for minor candidates.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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NYT/Sienna College polling analysis: Biden has advantage among swing voters in battleground states (Original Post) maximusveritas Nov 2019 OP
And this is before there are any GOP attacks on Warren or Sanders. Chemisse Nov 2019 #1
THOSE are some eye popping numbers!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #2
Biden is boss evertonfc Nov 2019 #3
KICKING.. I like polls! Cha Nov 2019 #4
Me too!! I hope everyone keeps posting new polls.... Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #6
To polls, Kasper! Cha Nov 2019 #7
Trump is historically unpopular. boomer_wv Nov 2019 #5
This Poll Raises Red Flags for Me Indykatie Nov 2019 #8
That's because this is a subset of the overall poll sample reflecting uncommitted swing voters maximusveritas Nov 2019 #9
Clearly these "swing voters" aren't ideologues. We definitely have to reach them as that's where... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #10
 

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
1. And this is before there are any GOP attacks on Warren or Sanders.
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 06:06 PM
Nov 2019

If one of them is the GE candidate, there will be a whole lot of nasty BS slammed at them with regards to Medicare for All, as well as plenty of personal insults, which could bring their numbers down further.

We either need to stick with a more centrist candidate or come up with a great strategy to deal with this. Pretending it's not a problem is not a good option.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,773 posts)
2. THOSE are some eye popping numbers!!
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 06:51 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
3. Biden is boss
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 07:26 PM
Nov 2019

Biden will crush Trump and put Florida, Arizona and Ohio in play. Biden is the person to win in the GE. I'm on board

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,275 posts)
4. KICKING.. I like polls!
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 07:33 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,773 posts)
6. Me too!! I hope everyone keeps posting new polls....
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 07:55 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,275 posts)
7. To polls, Kasper!
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 08:04 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

boomer_wv

(673 posts)
5. Trump is historically unpopular.
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 07:39 PM
Nov 2019

There are a lot of people who would support a generic republican, but dont like Trump. They will be willing to vote against him if they had a safe option. They don't want to see wholesale change, they domt want any version of socialism.

They know Biden and they arent scared of him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Indykatie

(3,697 posts)
8. This Poll Raises Red Flags for Me
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 08:51 PM
Nov 2019

It claims only 67% voted voted for Trump + Hillary with "the rest casting ballots for minor candidates". I refuse to believe 33% of any sample voted for someone other than Hillary or Trump. There's no way that many people basically threw away their vote.

Also they claim to want a "progressive agenda" but prefer a "moderate" candidate. These people seem to be confused.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

maximusveritas

(2,915 posts)
9. That's because this is a subset of the overall poll sample reflecting uncommitted swing voters
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 09:22 PM
Nov 2019

so it makes sense that you would have a larger percentage who didn't vote for Trump or Hillary.
The question would be how many of these people are capable of being won over or perhaps they will just throw away their vote or not vote again.
On your last point, you misread it. They prefer "one who promises to find common ground over one who promises to fight for a progressive agenda"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
10. Clearly these "swing voters" aren't ideologues. We definitely have to reach them as that's where...
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 03:03 AM
Nov 2019

elections are won & lost. We cannot afford for them to "swing" to Trump in 2020.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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