Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumAnti-Biden mag The Nation, 3 days ago: Sanders and Warren Have to Tame Nancy Pelosi
To show you how crazy this magazine -- which came out with an anti-endorsement of Biden today -- has become:
https://www.thenation.com/article/warren-sanders-pelosi/
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Any left-wing President will have to deal with the Pelosi problem: the existence of powerful Democrats who are too wedded to big money to accept an ambitious program. In an interview with CNBC, Sanders was asked if conservative Democrats like West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin were going support his program. Sanders replied, Damn right they will. You know why? Were going to go to West Virginia. Sanders promised to hold rallies in West Virginia to pressure Manchin.
In effect, Sanders was arguing for the same model that Trump has used to browbeat recalcitrant Republicans into supporting him: using the bully pulpit of the presidency to strong-arm his own party. Trump has repeatedly insulted Republican lawmakers and threatened to support their primary opponents if they cross him. Through tweets and rallies in Republican states, Trump has made himself the dominant voice of the party, the leader other Republicans dont dare cross.
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Sanderss gamble is that what Trump has done ham-fistedly for corrupt reasons can be done well for a progressive agenda. Its an open question whether Warren or Sanders will be able to cow the Democratic establishment. But thats clearly what they have to do. If a progressive bests Trump in 2020, one of the first things theyll have to do is tell Pelosi she needs to get on board with the program or risk a presidents supporting her ouster.
Defeating the Republicans will be the easy part. The real challenge will be overriding Pelosis veto.
So according to The Nation, not just Biden, but Pelosi, is The Enemy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Ugh! Sounds like a Russophile rag.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,791 posts)When someone from that rag runs for congress, then they might have a voice.
Katrina vanden huevel editor until this past summer pals around, at least b4 we went to jail with Julian assange.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,132 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,791 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,574 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)the party has not swung to the left.
A vocal and sizable minority has appointed itself moral arbiters, not only for our party, but the nation, acting as if its policies were mandated and its judgements infallible as to who is on and off a bus only they are driving.
This attitude is arrogant and condescending. It is divisive.
The Trump machine, suspiciously silent on Sanders and Warren, must be smiling.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,030 posts)them attack both Pelosi and Biden in just a few days.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(16,871 posts)This type of shit is 2015/6 2.0....
We can disagree about details without slandering and diminishing those individuals with whom we may disagree. The ideology that says "My ideas are the only way to solve a problem and anyone who doesn't agree with me is my enemy" is a sad and sick one indeed.
This type of ideological purity results in nothing but infighting with zero real progress. What it does result in though is Democratic icons like John Lewis being booed on a national stage, which is appalling and unforgivable. Must be a big freaking bus some of these people are driving.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(9,418 posts)Which is more condescending, calling Pelosi an obstacle to be removed, or calling on Warren and Sanders to remove her...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden